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Posted: 12/23/2005 8:36:16 PM EDT
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UMM strange....... I took off the hand guards and there was no markings at all on the barrel. Could it be that someone replaced the Buttstock and cut the barrel down on this gun?? Then added a permanant Flash hider to get it to 16". hinking.gif
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Posted: 12/24/2005 1:30:21 AM EDT
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to cut a sp1 bbl down to 16 would require a lot of work since the sp1 has a rifle length gas system and the 16 would have either a midlength or carbine gas system...meaning a new gas port would have to be drilled and the front sight reattatched.
i think its a homebuilt rifle on a sp1 lower wouldnt pay but 6-700 for it. another team member here from the hometown(mausermark) paid i think $600 for a used complete/original sp1 |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 1:30:52 AM EDT
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if you can get pics of it then it would be easier to tell you what you are dealing with
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Posted: 12/24/2005 4:58:43 AM EDT
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Thanks I am working on the pics.... I have through reseach... IE Big Hammer figured out that the bolt carrier is also real. Pics will be soon... TYhank alot guys...
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Posted: 12/24/2005 6:18:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2005 6:29:08 AM EDT
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you need to host them somewhere.
go to photobucket.com sign up upload your pics copy and paste the img in your reply |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 11:16:00 AM EDT
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not a colt expert but i would have to say it is a slapped together rifle.
xm style upper with sp1 lower. how much are you trying to sell it for? |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 11:46:20 AM EDT
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Not sure if I want to sell it. See, I had talked to the joker that sold it to me. He said it was original. My FFL got it when I was out of town and had it for about a week. I never thought to have him look at it. When I got back I went over to get it.... Open the box and there it was. So, I got scre!@#. Just wonderng how bad lol lol. I might just keep it for a shooter and or project. Also it would be nice to have an Idea what parts might be original and decide if I want to try to get it back to that state.
That upper is a large hole upper so I think it's the correct one. Butttstock... Bushy?? Bolt and Carrier I think are the Original?? Atleast the carrier is. Handguards... Wrong?? Barrel no markings anywhere?? Wrong.. |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 2:57:20 PM EDT
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colt upper/lower (big hole) colt bolt carrier shoot, you can probably work on that and make it 100% colt if you wanted. I would keep it, but thats me. |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:25:18 AM EDT
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The stock is not Colt.
Is there any markings on the barrel? |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:37:23 AM EDT
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Ya, The stock has to be marked with an N. ANd I looked all over that barrel. Took Hand guards off and there is no markings at all on the barrel. Strange, Makes me think it may have been shortened. No I dea though guessing..hinking.gif
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:45:21 AM EDT
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It looks like the bayonet lug has been ground off, I live in NY and that's what I have to have done on new uppers (post ban) to make then legal here. We have a state AWB still in effect.
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Posted: 12/25/2005 10:31:30 AM EDT
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I'm not a Colt expert by any means either, but I've had a few SP1's over the years. To get it back as original as possible it appears you will need a barrel and buttstock assembly. IIRC the SP1 carbines were marked as such, they had "Carbine" rollmarked on the lower. So your's was probably originally a rifle. Coming up with a 20" 1/12 Colt barrel and Colt stock and buffer tube shouldn't be too much of a problem, maybe a little time consuming. Might check with CDNN and see if they still have the Colt buttstock assemblies new for about 39 bucks. Probably have to snag the barrel off of EE, I see them show up fairly often. IMHO, If I were you, I'd just hang onto it, it would give you a good platform to put together anything you might want
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Posted: 12/25/2005 11:11:40 AM EDT
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The barrel is a replacement, probably from DPMS, and the buttstock is a bushie or also DPMS. Not bad? Its workable. You got Colt upper/lower/bcg a collapsible stock. When you shoot that barrel out replace it with whatever your heart desires.
Shoot it and enjoy it! |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 12:20:18 PM EDT
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Not true. A stock of that vintage would be the 2 postion aluminum vinyl coated stock. They would be marked with an NN inside a square under the latch for Newton Newman. Some SP1/XM177E2 stocks like this do not have any NN marking. I am fortunate to have a pristine examples of both of these Be aware that there are reproduction stocks that don't have the NN marking either. You can tell the stock pictured is not Colt by the rough finish |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:32:06 PM EDT
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According to the guy at the last gun show I went to its worth 1800 dollars since George Bush Senior Banned them from importation in 82
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