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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:08:46 AM EDT
I'm sorry if this was answered already. I did a public search and came up w/ no answers.

I've been looking into uppers, and have found some barrel lengths (16") that tend to be chambered for NATO 5.56/.223 Rem, and then others (20") that are chambered for .223 Wylde. I've been considering a 20" barrel (for more accuracy), but am not sure about what "Wylde" means.

What's the difference? Is .223 Rem different from .223 Wylde (i.e. different cartridge size)? I know you can use .223 Rem in a 5.56 NATO, but where does the .223 Wylde come in? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.

Dave
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:12:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:39:30 AM EDT
Its all inside Ammo Oracle
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 2:28:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigbore:
Wylde works with everything



Steve, what's your take on this? Would you be comfortable with a Wilde chamber in a non-competition gun?
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:04:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 3:06:37 PM EDT by bigbore]
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:10:05 PM EDT
i had the choice to buy two different 24" uppers, one with a NATO chamber, and one with a Wylde chamber. from what i heard, the Wylde is better all around, and so far, i'm very happy with my Wylde chamber.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:23:18 PM EDT
+2.54x10^-4 for the Wylde! I had a varmint upper with the Wylde chamber that ate everything well and shot killer groups.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 6:31:24 PM EDT
So what is the difference between Wylde and Noveske 5.56 match?
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 6:50:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 6:54:36 PM EDT by warren-hpf]

Originally Posted By Skyssx:
So what is the difference between Wylde and Noveske 5.56 match?



about two hundred dollars.

ETA: maybe around a hundred now.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:28:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2005 7:28:50 PM EDT by johnsopa]
I just talked with someone at Compass Lake about this today. They said while they offer a Wylde chamber for their barrels (am considering a Douglas or Krieger), they don't recommend it because the excess throat dimensions generate more wear.

It's not clear to me what their alternative suggestion would be if one wants to shoot 5.56 and .223.

I was planning to get a Wylde chamber but need to research more after hearing this from them.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:07:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:11:52 PM EDT
Steve,

Is the accuracy difference between NATO and Wylde significant?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:24:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:58:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 2:59:54 PM EDT by twl]
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:19:34 PM EDT
Guess I'll throw in my two cents....
I own a RRA National Match rifle with the "Wylde". Between practice and actual match shooting, this rifle typically sees 5,000 rounds per year. Ammo used has never been anything but Black Hills Remanufactured Ammo 75gr AMAX's. Chamber/throat area shows no wear as of yet, but with anything that could change after the next practice session? This rifle is three(3) years old, and will hopefully get me through this upcoming season!!
Group size? 100yards w/Nightforce scope on bench (average .450" 5-shots)

Scott B
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:36:41 PM EDT
Anecdotal (YMMV):

NATO chamber will eat anything.

Wylde chamber does not like teh Wolf.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 4:08:31 PM EDT
Thanks Steve. I always appreciate your insight.

Take care and I wish you and yours a very happy holidays.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:41:31 AM EDT
Steve,

One last question: would you feel comfortable shooting the 5.56 pressure 75 gr. TAP in a Wylde chamber?

Regards,

Justin
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:41:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Steve,

One last question: would you feel comfortable shooting the 5.56 pressure 75 gr. TAP in a Wylde chamber?

Regards,

Justin



I'm not Steve, but I feel comfertable shooting some pretty hot highpower loads in a wylde chamber. NATO pressure TAP would be no problem, especially with crimped primers and such. The longer throat would prevent bullet setback issues.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:01:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:42:41 PM EDT
The whole point of 'Wylde' was to obtain the accuracy benefits of a .223/match chamber, but with the ammo selection & pressure tolerance of the NATO system...

Basically, it's the ideal chamber for someone who will shoot both 'NATO' and .223 commercial ammo....
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