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Posted: 11/25/2005 5:51:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2005 9:35:51 PM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:04:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2005 6:07:29 AM EDT by macros73]
Looks great! What receiver block are you using to mount the receiver in the vise? Did you need to use the strap wrench to tighten down the Noveske?
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:07:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:08:02 AM EDT
That's some fancy, high falootin' stuff there, critter!
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:27:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 8:09:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2005 8:10:04 AM EDT by altav]
If one was to permanently attach the KX3, would it make the barrel the legal (i.e. 16")?

ETA: Nice pics!
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 8:21:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 9:51:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2005 9:52:41 AM EDT by eklikwhoa]
how much would an upper like that cost?
also does your strap wrench have the fabric strap or rubber? i tried using the rubber one and it never worked for me.


great choice in torque wrench
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 11:14:23 AM EDT
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity? Yes, I am aware these are very new but, I'm sure some one has tested them...

Looks to be a very nice in-between length.

Weazer
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 11:24:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2005 12:54:19 PM EDT by Combat_Jack]

Originally Posted By Weazer:
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity? Yes, I am aware these are very new but, I'm sure some one has tested them...

Looks to be a very nice in-between length.

Weazer



Pat Rogers had a 12.5 when I took a class from him in May. The velocity should be right between the 10.5 and the 14.5, and the reliability much more consistent than the CQB-R.

Someday I shall own a 12.5.
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 1:16:40 PM EDT
Very interesting.

And now here I am deliberating for the umpteenth time on my first sbr upper build..........
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 4:40:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2005 4:49:57 PM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 4:44:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 5:12:09 PM EDT
Wes,

What ammo did you use for that group??? Just curious...

They do look sexy with the LT 12.0.

Weazer
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:14:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 6:21:53 PM EDT
............must...see..........one..........with...............Larue.............9.0............please.......................
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 8:53:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 9:16:36 PM EDT
Go figure, as soon as I make the decision and follow through with buying the 10.5 you have to show me the 12.5

P.S. I hate you
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 10:55:04 PM EDT
What is the price? If John can cut two out of one blank they should be 270. Otherwise, 370. That's a prettty big difference.
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 7:49:24 AM EDT
Wes,

Do you mind sharing what vise you use?

Thanks!
Aubrey
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 7:55:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/26/2005 7:58:39 AM EDT by Stickman]

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Weazer:
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity?



The velocity should be right between the 10.5 and the 14.5.







Back on topic

Wes- What sort of demand are you seeing with the surge of new barrel sizes?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 7:59:58 AM EDT
how much would an upper as pictured in the first post set one back?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 8:13:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
how much would an upper as pictured in the first post set one back?

Link Posted: 11/26/2005 8:22:36 AM EDT
MSTN, I am going to be installing a LaRue 7.0 next week on my LMT upper when it comes in the mail. I would like to know do you always use a Tokque wrench and how much pounds of tokque do you use on the barrel nut?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 10:29:50 AM EDT

PRECISION REFLEX UPPER RECEIVER BLOCK. THIS ONE IS DESIGNED FOR THE AR-15 ON ONE SIDE AND THE AR-10 ON THE OTHER. THEY MAKE ANOTHER THAT IS FOR THE AR-15, RIGHT SIDE UP, ON ONE SIDE, AND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE OTHER.


That is so kickass. Should I be worried that I've reached a point that AR-related tools fascinate me as much as AR's themselves?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 1:26:17 PM EDT
Wes I am going to be selling my M962 series soon and am thinking of replacing it someday with the exact light setup you have pictured above. I'm using the exact same setup as you (CQD VFG and Larue rails) and was wondering how the thumb reach is on yours?
Link Posted: 11/26/2005 2:00:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 5:53:04 PM EDT
must see more..................
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 5:58:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Weazer:
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity?



The velocity should be right between the 10.5 and the 14.5.







Back on topic

Wes- What sort of demand are you seeing with the surge of new barrel sizes?



Stick- that was meant as a joke
On a more serious note, has anyone ever chronoed one of these? If the same velocity increases are reported for the 12.5s as for the 10.5s, we have a serious little spitball shooter here.
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 7:34:58 PM EDT
Combat Jack has sold me on the 12.5". Hopefully I'll be placing an order in the next 6-10 months. I am beyond jealous of your new toy, Wes.
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 9:35:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2005 9:40:48 PM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 10:20:32 PM EDT
That looks like the worlds heaviest shorty.

Link Posted: 11/28/2005 11:53:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2005 5:15:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MSTN:

Originally Posted By Weazer:
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity? Yes, I am aware these are very new but, I'm sure some one has tested them...

Looks to be a very nice in-between length.

Weazer



FORGIVE ME FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS, BUT I CAN'T RESIST: IN BETWEEN THE TWO.

ME, I'M LIKING THE 12.5" LENGTH, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT ALLOWS THE LARUE 12.0 TO COVER THE WHOLE DANG BARREL. LOOKS RATHER FETCHING WITH THE KX3, AS WELL, IF I DO SAY SO MYSELF.

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



I assumed as much but, I know what happens when I assume something... So I thought
I would check..

Weazer

Weazer
Link Posted: 11/29/2005 12:01:59 PM EDT
Very cool.

What is the length from the front end of the top of the receiver, to the front end of the KFH?
Link Posted: 12/1/2005 6:57:13 AM EDT
LOL the Night Force is longer then the barrel.
Link Posted: 12/1/2005 5:40:52 PM EDT
Who makes the flip cap setup on the TA-11B's objective lens?
Link Posted: 12/1/2005 6:49:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2005 6:51:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 4:16:44 PM EDT
doing my SBR paperwork know.......cant decide on a 10.5 JN or the 12.5 JN..........lifes full of hard dec..........
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:20:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By beware1gun:
doing my SBR paperwork know.......cant decide on a 10.5 JN or the 12.5 JN..........lifes full of hard dec..........



Yeah, life is rough sometimes! Is there a way that you could split the difference and go with an 11.5"?
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:30:55 PM EDT
10.5 is good for getting in and out of vehicles and tight spaces.....12.5 gives me almost the same size with a veloc. boost and the plus of being able to mount the SF can which is the next addition to it..........12.5 and 10.5 are both "stock" sizes that JN crank out.........relly want to see a JN 12.5 with a convetional sized flash suppresor (A2, Vortex, phantom) sitting in a 9.0 Larue...............maybee somebody will grant me my wish...................Then LW has to go and do something silly like mount them in the piston upper which looks really slick..................
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:35:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:37:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LeitnerWise:
Wes, that is an awesome build, I still have a problem with the asthetics of the brake but......
Respect man.



Vortex..............................
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 6:37:19 PM EDT
Wes, about the stock that you've got on it, is that a VLTOR? Do you get a better cheek weld with that over a conventional M4 stock? By the way, I really like your gun, sharp build!
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 6:51:23 PM EDT
LMT SOPMOD stock
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 11:19:43 PM EDT
John Noveske wanted to give the LW system a try. So he sent us his new 12" barrel and we built it for him.

We built it, and now I love it!





I must have one!
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 4:22:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 48thHighlander:
John Noveske wanted to give the LW system a try. So he sent us his new 12" barrel and we built it for him.

We built it, and now I love it!

www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=32951QPDp9&i=250507

www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=32951QPDp9&i=250508

I must have one!



Wow, that looks very nice, I bet it shoots even better. It looks like he had to reprofile the barrel for the LW system. Question is, how much does it weigh?

Weazer
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 1:52:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MSTN:

Originally Posted By GreenLine:
Who makes the flip cap setup on the TA-11B's objective lens?



PROGRESSIVE MACHINE. $80.

ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE ACOG AT CLOSE RANGE AS AN OCCLUDED EYE GUNSIGHT.

IT WORKS FOR ME!

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



Will these fit the 31f? Where can I get one?
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 4:23:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:38:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Weazer:
Wes,

I don't want to start anything but, how are the 12" barrels compared to the 10.5"or 14.5" as far as velocity? Yes, I am aware these are very new but, I'm sure some one has tested them...

Looks to be a very nice in-between length.

Weazer



Pat Rogers had a 12.5 when I took a class from him in May. The velocity should be right between the 10.5 and the 14.5, and the reliability much more consistent than the CQB-R.

Someday I shall own a 12.5.



somebody prob. already posted this but........A E-Mail to JN asking the same thing (difference in average vel. from the 10.5 to the 12.5) got me a reply from JN himself stating that it is approx a 200 fps gain over the 10.5.(dont know what ammo) Cant wait for the SBR paperwork to come back..............
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