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Posted: 10/14/2003 7:21:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 7:37:01 PM EDT
Don't think. Buy!
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 7:50:15 PM EDT
I'm ashamed to admit it but even after all my surfing around ARFCOM I'm with Aimless and a little fuzzy on the reason for this weapon. Can anyone fill us in? Thanks. E-95
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 8:32:30 PM EDT
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=160692&w=searchPop[/url] Some of the thoughts...
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 8:33:58 PM EDT
They seem to be getting the job done in 'Stan so what are you complaining about? :) The vltor and magpul stocks offer a cheek weld at least as good as a fixed stock with the advantage of being adjustable for different people/situations/other equip like vests. The 18" barrel gives plenty of velocity for the 75gr and 77gr ammo being used. You also need to remember that the military models are often used with the silencer attached.
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 9:21:23 PM EDT
From what I have managed to gather, a spr is a preban that has all of the nice options. With an 18" barrel. I went thought the links and one of comments I noticed, was that there is no need for a free floated handguard. At "500 meters" I would think I want all the barrel float I can get. I find the idea of a designated shooter to be contray to basic squad level infantry doctran. 4 or 5 m16's at 4 or 500 meters should make anyone flinch.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 12:11:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By markmcjunkins: I went thought the links and one of comments I noticed, was that there is no need for a free floated handguard.
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Link Posted: 10/15/2003 1:38:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless: What's the purpose of an SPR?
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Why, its a [u]special[/u] purpose, of course! [:D]
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 2:23:56 PM EDT
Because you can have a military rugged/reliable/durable, 18" (or close enough to it) barreled sniper rifle that weighs 12 pounds or less, that can shoot like this at 300 yards! [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p5729d9c4ce2a37df1ad695a21d6d72ec/fc10f5a7.jpg[/img] To be truthful, mine has a full 20" barrel, but this group was taken my first time out shooting it and from what I have been told, the Stainless Krieger barrel I am using will only get better.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 2:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2003 2:42:10 PM EDT by Yojimbo]
Originally Posted By new-arguy: Because you can have a military rugged/reliable/durable, 18" (or close enough to it) barreled sniper rifle that weighs 12 pounds or less, that can shoot like this at 300 yards! [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p5729d9c4ce2a37df1ad695a21d6d72ec/fc10f5a7.jpg[/url] To be truthful, mine has a full 20" barrel, but this group was taken my first time out shooting it and from what I have been told, the Stainless Krieger barrel I am using will only get better.
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new-arguy, I hate to tell you but it looks like you missed...[;)][:D]
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 2:55:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2003 2:57:40 PM EDT by new-arguy]
[banghead] I know man, I totally missed. But please, please let me explain! There's always an excuse isnt there! This was the first time I shot the gun and really didnt know where I needed to hold at 300, or where to dial the turrets. So I just held dead on and gave it a go. As you can see, with the 77gr BH ammo, it was fairly low. But man, I sure thought the group was impressive. I just wish I could have taken that flier back!
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 4:34:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2003 4:34:59 PM EDT by Hoplophile]
Originally Posted By markmcjunkins: From what I have managed to gather, a spr is a preban that has all of the nice options.
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Pre-ban has nothing to do with it since the real ones are military weapons. There's a good description of the SPR in MSTN's forum on the industry board. Lumpy posted the following pic in a different thread: [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid82/p8011a48bb391af5308eff931c49eb18a/faeabe97.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 8:17:59 PM EDT
So, what am I limiting myself to if I build a M4 with a 14" with muzzle break or 16" carbine?? (newbe)[:\]
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 11:15:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2003 11:17:11 PM EDT by DevL]
If you build an M4 its a CQB rifle that still has accuracy to make shots at a few hundred yards. The SPR is used like a designated marksman rifle only used in numerically smaller SF units. The barrel is shorter becasue(I think) the comp adds length and so does the can and the trade off for velocity and size was at 18". It has to be free floated to be an SPR. In fact MSTN has all the parts that make it an SPR and if its missing something its just an accurized AR15. Some of the biggies (to me) to call it an SPR would be... SS match barrel of med contour Ops Inc muzzle break FF railed forearm folding front and rear sight high powered scope KAC 2 stage trigger All SPRs ever made had these features.
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