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Posted: 8/23/2003 4:29:25 PM EDT
Anyone know where I can get an Counterpoise kit for my AR15?
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 4:51:08 PM EDT
[url]www.brownells.com[/url] I think.
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 5:02:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2003 5:02:22 PM EDT by Fire_for_Effect]
It's discontinued on Brownells. Thanks anyways.
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 6:13:54 PM EDT
You will have to alter your barrel by opening the gas port, then find out that counterpoise doesn't work, then buy a new barrel! Great device for making money, but not for gun owner. Bad shootin, Jack
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 6:22:30 PM EDT
Every review and everything I read suggests that it works very well.
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 6:34:26 PM EDT
Buy one and let us know if all the other not pd. for contrary reports are more accurate than the pd. for adds, it's your barrel.:) Jack
Link Posted: 8/23/2003 8:21:11 PM EDT
I know where you could have gotten one... In the dumpster behind my apartment about a year ago. Avoid it like the plague. -Cap'n
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 2:18:04 PM EDT
Armforte.com they are redesgining system. thus it was pulled from Brownells.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 6:00:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 9:42:38 PM EDT
AAC rate reducing buffers (advanced armament corporation) Better product
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 11:22:44 PM EDT
Heck, a Colt 9mm Buffer is heavy enough to slow it down some. The PRI fatboy gastube also helps, as will a Les Baer bolt carrier. -Cap'n
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 11:34:52 PM EDT
Whats the fascination with fixing what isnt broken?
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 12:22:20 AM EDT
The theory is, if you throw enough money at something, hopefully it will componsate for the fact that you fucking suck. Basically fixing a software problem with hardware. You see this in cars, guns, tools, homes, ect... Ever seen 26" spinner rims on a Chevy Impala that is lime green? I rest my case. How likely is it that for ever 10 Krieger barrels sold, 4 go to people who couldn't outshoot the factory Bushmaster/et al barrel they had? I know I can't outshoot it, so why waist 400+ dollars? [noclue] The other theory is it is all about bragging rights, and they probably never even take the tool out to shoot. I like to modify stuff if I reasonably believe it will help me in some way. Lighter? Quicker to aim? Slings better? Balances the weight out better? Magnified optic? Light? ect... Do I need it, or do I just want it? -Steve
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 1:32:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/25/2003 1:34:12 AM EDT by Lumpy196]
Lights and optics are one thing...changing the functional parts of the gun is another.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 4:02:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 4:16:45 AM EDT
Tom Bowers of subguns.com had a review on his site a few years ago. He tested it and the counter weight broke off. It is garbage.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 8:19:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/25/2003 8:23:54 AM EDT by Green0]
Steven B I think you are sadly mistaken. The AAC makes the gun heavier (albeit slightly). The buffer makes a huge difference in cycleing characteristics. The gun smoothes down making rapid repeat shots more precise. I can fire pie plate sized groups with some 1911's (BROLIN) and 3-5in groups offhand standing with custom 1911's. same operator but groups vary from 11 to 3-5inches depending upon weapon used. There are a host of champion shooters here in the US (people like Bob Munden, David Tubb, Doug Konig, Rob Leatham, Jerry Barnhart etc. [b]Last time I looked : Bob Munden was using a specially smithed (by himself) six gun worth $3500 David Tubb was using a specially designed (by himself) rifle worth around $7500 Doug Konig was using a $3500+ 1911 with a Leupold Gilmore Red dot sight special hammer designed with his own imput. Rob Leatham was shooting $2500+ SA 1911's with Aimpoint sights Jerry Barnhart was using $2500+ 1911's and advocating the use of his specially designed 3m aluminum oxide painted grips "burner grips" [b] a man is only as good as his tools. The Operator can't make up completely for shitty equipment. real time and practical accuracy gains can be made with (match triggers, advanced sights, and recoil reducing products.[/b] If you don't believe me just hand Rob Leatham a standard WWII GI 1911 and tell him to compete in the steel challenge with it. But be ready for him to laugh you out of the house.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 1:36:00 PM EDT
GreenO, as I pointed out in my origional statement, the addons are great if you can personally use them. If adding X to your gun makes you shoot better, do it. The individuals you mentioned are top of the hill shooters who can out perform their stock guns. Most people can't do that. These people have the need for more modifications to push the envelope of their abilities. That AAC is pretty useful in slowing the cyclic rate. This can enhance reliability. It's good in my book. -STeve
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 11:50:30 PM EDT
Wow Wes, pulling two shot groups at high ROF autofire is doing well! Course it's nice to have that PRI Fat Boy gas tube to slow things down a little bit (and make the rifle more reliable as well).
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 2:11:01 PM EDT
The LMT shorty uppers don't need or even like the Fatboy. And they run!
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