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Posted: 5/12/2003 12:38:02 PM EDT
Looks and feels great (sitting here on my desk at work). I like the updates. I'll try to get it installed tonight and post some pics. This ones going to turn some heads.
Some Pics:       Theo |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 1:43:32 PM EDT
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HAH! beat you to the pic theo! i was turning screws while you was typin'!
[img]http://www.ambrick.com/MagPul.JPG[/img] 7.62x39 m16 (pre-ban upper so-what, i got a MSS[:D]) |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 2:23:17 PM EDT
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Hmmm, are these for sale yet? I've been keeping my eyes peeled for announcement of the production, non-beta version; but had not seen anything on it.
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Posted: 5/12/2003 2:41:05 PM EDT
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ya me too, but what is all that stuff in the goodie bag for? the on line pdf file does not show much info on this.
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Posted: 5/12/2003 4:29:00 PM EDT
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I got my MSS this morning. Love the improvments. Cant wait to install it. What a great monday.
Austin |
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Posted: 5/12/2003 9:49:55 PM EDT
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The best part was not expecting it and biting my finger nails. It's also one hell of a deal Rich offered us. (Don't know if Rich wants it to be public info.)
The multi different size shims are very helpful. I didn't have to do any sanding to install the new unit. The new one is MUCH easier to remove from the tube than the origional. Now, the extra bag with the rail mounts confused me. I know some of the stuff is for mounting the rail on the handguard, but I am not sure how to properly install the rail on the stock. (I'm not very mechanically inclined) There were similar amounts of rough spots on the stock as the origional, but some short work with a flat fine file fixed those up. Most were over molding. The sling mount that was supplied is very nice too. I still want a rubber butt plate for the stock though. Big thumbs up to Magpul. Companies like Magpul make it tough to juggle 3 gun projects at once. [;)] This weapon of mass destruction (ar-15 according to the Caliban), a titanium Caspian 1911 with a damascus slide, a custom Glock 26 for the wife. -Steve |
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Posted: 5/13/2003 2:35:12 AM EDT
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To mount the rail on the side you use the smallest hex screws and the silver "washers" face down to the stock between the stock and the rail. Hammer the threaded "holes" into the stock and it bolts right up. If you dont use the washer/spacers the rail will cover the release button.
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Posted: 5/13/2003 5:20:59 AM EDT
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Has there been a list circulated yet taking orders for the MSS for AR15.com folks? I know Magpul has said it would offer ar15 members a special price for their new MSS, but I haven't seen the list or request yet. Are only "special folks" getting it, or is it available to all AR15 members? Just wondering?
-Shon |
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Posted: 5/13/2003 6:45:27 AM EDT
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All the AR15.com original preorders went out on Saturday with the exception of KingoftheBumps who lives down the road from me and Maxim99 who has a Olympic Arms receiver that is threaded in the exact way not to fit the MSS. Maxim99 sent me his and I am making some special tubes up with the threads exactly 180 degrees off.
Yes KevinB has 5 new stocks on the way to him. Canadian Customs is probably already screwing with the stocks as we speak. Those who opted for the experimental versions were charged $95 (my cost) to upgrade to the production version. This amount can be refunded if you decide to send the experimental back but it is probably worth more than that on the open market as only about 80 were produced. The AR15.com group buy included a single point sling mount and 4 inch Pict mounting rail that can be used for mounting on the side of the M93 or mounted on the stock M4 handguards. Hard mounting the rail can be done in a number of ways. The eaisest way is to push in the two small black inserts into the first two holes on the side of the stock narrow end goes in first. A drill press works best for this. Then (after removing the stock from the buffer tube)use a 5/8 screw screw to "prime" the insert by screwing the bolt all the way in. A small star like piece of metal should pop out the back which is used to expand the insert into place. Once the inserts are primed use the smaller screws in the packet to bolt the rail to the side of the stock. The holes can also be theaded using a helicoil kit to use the larger bolts. The silver washers DevL spoke of are designed for installation of the rail on the handguards, I guess they could work for the stock but I will have to see how DevL did it. Another AR15.com buy for late commers? Maybe but it will likey only include a single point sling at no extra charge. |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 3:12:29 AM EDT
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I did it without the washers first and the rail covered the stock release button. The washer spaced it off perfectly.
Also what are the slots in the cheek piece for? Theo, How long have you had your rifle? It is almost EXACTLY like mine. Preban Bushmaster/FF RAS/PRI sight&handle/M93 and is that a Knights 2 stage trigger? What muzzle device is that? Bilock? |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 4:20:56 AM EDT
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I received mine early Monday. Thanks, Rich! It's great.
[img]www.appliedinc.com/prebanm4.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 4:31:34 AM EDT
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I love mine, too. The button upgrades were a great touch, &, of course the cheekweld is amazing. I think this one is going on my FN TPS I'm waiting for...
Well done, Rich!! |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 5:37:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: All the AR15.com original preorders went out on Saturday with the exception of KingoftheBumps who lives down the road from me and Maxim99 who has a Olympic Arms receiver that is threaded in the exact way not to fit the MSS. Another AR15.com buy for late commers? Maybe but it will likey only include a single point sling at no extra charge. Sorry, I must have missed the original request for the AR15.COM group buy. I thought I had followed the thread pretty closely. Please let me know if you are going to offer another group buy for the MSS. - Shon |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 7:22:04 AM EDT
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DevL,
This is actually a “postban receiver” but it contains a magic little device called a RDIAS, which of course removes it from the “Semi” Automatic Assault Weapons Ban. A little over a year ago I cleaned out the safe and sold a couple of prebans in order to purchase the RDIAS, best decision I’ve ever made. I’ve found it to be my favorite gun to shoot; I hardly take anything else out of the safe these days. The rifle is somewhat of an “experimental” platform for the various gadgets I’ve seen reviewed here on AR15.com (Believe it or not I used to prescribe to the KISS philosophy). That said, it runs better than any rifle/firearm I have ever owned. I’ve run 500 rounds through it without cleaning with no problems (With the suppressor attached it will start gumming up around the 300 round mark and I have to use the forward assist to close the bolt on the first round of a 30 round mag). Current configuration: Indexed flattop upper Knights FF RAS (carbine length) Knights QD side sling adapter for rail system Bushmaster Heavy Machine Gun barrel (11.5”) Lightened and fluted under handguards by Kurt Gemtech BiLock flashider Knights 300 M flip up rear sight PRI fold down front sight post/gasblock PRI Fat boy Gas tube PRI gas buster charging handle with big latch CQB sling Chrome Young’s Manufacturing NM M16 Carrier and bolt (heavy) McFarland gas rings AAC rate reducer buffer with wolf spring Bushmaster Postban Lower DPMS ambidextrous selector M16 Norgon ambidextrous mag release setup (great system by the way) Knights 2 stage M16 trigger (2 stage semi and single stage full) KNS SS anti-rotation pins Tango Battle grip (may go back to Hogue) Magpul Modular Stock System RDIAS (Registered Drop in Auto sear) Gemtech M4-96d QD suppressor Surefire M900A Eotech Holosight NV compatible Purchased from members and sponsers, Hacked together by me, Runs like a top. Theo |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 9:05:11 AM EDT
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Wow! now that's the kind of job I need. Nice paper weight. What line of work did you say you were in???
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Posted: 5/14/2003 5:17:26 PM EDT
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Richard,
Well boy was I ever pleased today at work... They arrived And boy are they great - made a lot of believers today at work. Thanks a bunch will get in touch with you offline as well. |
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Posted: 5/14/2003 9:01:37 PM EDT
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Hey, wait a sec... do you mean to tell me that these things are now available for sale? If so, that is awesome news. I know SEVERAL people who love mine and have been on my case to get them one. Cool!
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Posted: 5/15/2003 5:18:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hey, wait a sec... do you mean to tell me that these things are now available for sale? If so, that is awesome news. I know SEVERAL people who love mine and have been on my case to get them one. Cool! Well, looks like I wasn't the only one to miss the ar15.com group buy. Still haven't found where it was announced? When will the next group buy be offered? |
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Posted: 5/16/2003 1:47:38 AM EDT
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Has anyone else attached the side rail? Did it make the stock release button unusable?
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Posted: 5/16/2003 7:16:20 AM EDT
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I'm interested in the group buy too. Although my funding for ARs is currently shot, so if it takes a month or two, I won't complain.
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Posted: 5/16/2003 11:17:05 AM EDT
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I was also following the MSS threads with much excitement and passion, and yet did not see any mention of a group buy.
-Troy |
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Posted: 5/16/2003 2:02:29 PM EDT
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Ok seeing we had some confusion I will put together another special AR15.com offer.
Let me work out the details this weekend. I will need a few days to refresh my stock as we are out of M93s again as of today. I don't know if it will be done in time but we are sponsoring Velko Milosevich's excellent film, "the paraclete" to be remastered on a special DVD release including a Director's commentary audio track. Velko has allowed me to include a limited number of these new DVDs at no extra charge with the next batch of M93's released. If you haven't seen the movie, details are here- [url]http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/paraclete.html[/url] [img]http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/pics/velko/paraclete.jpg[/img] The production quality is astounding and is as good if not better than the average Hollywood flick. It is NOT a shoot-em-up movie but the firefight scenes are very well done and realistic. Velko himself is an AR15 owner and budding director in the left wing bastion of Hollywood. He needs all the support we can give him. |
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Posted: 5/16/2003 7:48:04 PM EDT
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[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=142666&w=searchPop[/url]
I guess I am missing something, I got my info and stock from the above link. |
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Posted: 5/16/2003 8:25:48 PM EDT
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Rich,
What are the "slots" in the cheek piece of the stock for? They were not on the experimental stock. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 10:59:06 AM EDT
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Just finished installing mine on a very early Palmetto lower and fits very tightly. Of all my gagets, including the SIRS, Surefire M900, Norgon ambi magazine release and the list goes on, I got to say that this is my favorite addition. Obviously alot of thought went into this product and the quality is great. This replaces the older Colt M4 collapsible stock and it's light years beyond it. Thanks, Rich for a great new product!!!
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Posted: 5/17/2003 8:24:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: What are the "slots" in the cheek piece of the stock for? They were not on the experimental stock. Got mine in the mail and installed today. Same question? What are the slots on the top of the beffer tube for? Please, please, please work on the sniper stock next! I want one for my new SPR real bad. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 8:41:04 PM EDT
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What are the "slots" in the cheek piece of the stock for? The slots are index holes for a cheek elevation pad when using a SIR system or a scope mounted about the normal line of sight. If using the regular style charging handle the pad will index with the rearmost four slots If using a side charger or the Ares Belt fed then a full length cheek elevation piece using all six slots can be used. |
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Posted: 5/18/2003 9:48:37 PM EDT
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Any pictures of the QD sling mount &/or cheek welds?
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