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Posted: 4/13/2022 10:18:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone get the party started and post their tan super duty I'm glad to hear that JSOC assaulters are going to rifles that are easier to clone lol. Not counting the LVAW, but I blame that on SIG. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 10:24:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad to hear that JSOC assaulters are going to rifles that are easier to clone lol. Not counting the LVAW, but I blame that on SIG. There’s got to be a catch….it can’t be this easy! |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 11:23:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s got to be a catch….it can’t be this easy! Always... from my observations in modern clones the issues are the following or a mix of them: -discontinued handguards -discontinued suppressors -unreleased optics and mounts -anodizing/cerakote (could be coupled with point above) -discontinued optics |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:17:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 3:00:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 3:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LMT MRPs are kosher too, here’s a 24th STS pic: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405936/47AA5AC1-251B-43A9-A4DE-0E65857730BD_jpe-2349719.JPG Looks like a Specwar upper. They use a 12.5" mid gas barrel. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 3:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does this mean?? Popcorn? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it means he is grabbing some popcorn and standing by for the drama to unfold. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 6:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LMT MRPs are kosher too, here’s a 24th STS pic: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405936/47AA5AC1-251B-43A9-A4DE-0E65857730BD_jpe-2349719.JPG My guess is that is a personal upper. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:25:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that is a personal upper. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LMT MRPs are kosher too, here’s a 24th STS pic: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405936/47AA5AC1-251B-43A9-A4DE-0E65857730BD_jpe-2349719.JPG My guess is that is a personal upper. They are issued. I'd post more, but I don't know if the dudes are JSOC or not. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 10:08:58 PM EDT
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It is interesting they went with a 10.3 since it seems like 11.5 is gaining popularity. Probably due to familiarity.
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Posted: 4/23/2022 7:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Despite the cries from KAC fanboyz, CAG and the 24th selected 10.3 and 14.5" G SD's to replace their 416's. |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 12:44:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2022 4:43:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are these factory G SD with a G 10.3 barrel and G gas block and not DD like the UGRI? Rumor has it with Surefire Optimized Bolt Carrier Group, buffer spring and long-stroke, H-weight buffer ... so not technically a Geissele SD... I am still waiting on ITW proof I find it extremity odd a Tier 1 unit would follow the lead of the "white" units ( URG-I), if it is true the elite status is taking a big hit on this one... |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 4:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it with Surefire Optimized Bolt Carrier Group, buffer spring and long-stroke, H-weight buffer ... so not technically a Geissele SD... I am still waiting on ITW proof I find it extremity odd a Tier 1 unit would follow the lead of the "white" units ( URG-I), if it is true the elite status is taking a big hit on this one... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So are these factory G SD with a G 10.3 barrel and G gas block and not DD like the UGRI? Rumor has it with Surefire Optimized Bolt Carrier Group, buffer spring and long-stroke, H-weight buffer ... so not technically a Geissele SD... I am still waiting on ITW proof I find it extremity odd a Tier 1 unit would follow the lead of the "white" units ( URG-I), if it is true the elite status is taking a big hit on this one... It isn't a URG-I. So if I put an OBC in my rifle, it is no longer a super dooty? Or what if I throw in a LMT EBCG? |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 6:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't a URG-I. So if I put an OBC in my rifle, it is no longer a super dooty? Or what if I throw in a LMT EBCG? yes at that point it is a build to our spec by a subcontractor (Gessile) instead of the Unit armors... but what the f^^k do I know I only worked small arms/ NVG programs for NSW and other special units for 22+ years AD and 13 years now in Industry... |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 6:15:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yes at that point it is a build to our spec by a subcontractor (Gessile) instead of the Unit armors... but what the f^^k do I know I only worked small arms/ NVG programs for NSW and other special units for 22+ years AD and 13 years now in Industry... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It isn't a URG-I. So if I put an OBC in my rifle, it is no longer a super dooty? Or what if I throw in a LMT EBCG? yes at that point it is a build to our spec by a subcontractor (Gessile) instead of the Unit armors... but what the f^^k do I know I only worked small arms/ NVG programs for NSW and other special units for 22+ years AD and 13 years now in Industry... OK. Well, with your industry hook ups, I would think that you can find out what they are issuing. ETA... aren't a lot of JSOCs weapons historically "build to our spec" and then later modified by their armorers as needed or wanted by the end user? Glock, SIG, HK etc have all done this. |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 8:47:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it with Surefire Optimized Bolt Carrier Group, buffer spring and long-stroke, H-weight buffer ... so not technically a Geissele SD... I am still waiting on ITW proof I find it extremity odd a Tier 1 unit would follow the lead of the "white" units ( URG-I), if it is true the elite status is taking a big hit on this one... Wow, someone using with logic instead of wanting to swing their brand of purse. Cheers to you, sir! |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 8:53:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. Well, with your industry hook ups, I would think that you can find out what they are issuing. ETA... aren't a lot of JSOCs weapons historically "build to our spec" and then later modified by their armorers as needed or wanted by the end user? Glock, SIG, HK etc have all done this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It isn't a URG-I. So if I put an OBC in my rifle, it is no longer a super dooty? Or what if I throw in a LMT EBCG? yes at that point it is a build to our spec by a subcontractor (Gessile) instead of the Unit armors... but what the f^^k do I know I only worked small arms/ NVG programs for NSW and other special units for 22+ years AD and 13 years now in Industry... OK. Well, with your industry hook ups, I would think that you can find out what they are issuing. ETA... aren't a lot of JSOCs weapons historically "build to our spec" and then later modified by their armorers as needed or wanted by the end user? Glock, SIG, HK etc have all done this. Speaking of hook ups, you could also just post your source that a certain unit is going with G rifles. |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 9:20:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of hook ups, you could also just post your source that a certain unit is going with G rifles. What fun would that be? @S-1 was dropping details on the DEVGRU Noveske gun waaaaaay before anything concrete came out about it. Somehow he knows. |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 9:40:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What fun would that be? @S-1 was dropping details on the DEVGRU Noveske gun waaaaaay before anything concrete came out about it. Somehow he knows. So did Chris Costa. Mentioned in an article back in 2018 or 2019 that a certain unit had selected 10.5" .300 blk, while showing his 10.5 noveske. Is S-1 Chris Costa? The plot thickens... |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 10:13:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA... aren't a lot of JSOCs weapons historically "build to our spec" and then later modified by their armorers as needed or wanted by the end user? Glock, SIG, HK etc have all done this. I hate to be "that guy" again, but what exactly are you all going after when talking about "JSOC weapons?" JSOC is a headquarters that pulls together several different special mission units and other organizations. So JSOC weapons are whatever those individual SMUs and organizations use. It sounds like some people are talking about Delta, but want to call it "JSOC." |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 11:15:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Speaking of hook ups, you could also just post your source that a certain unit is going with G rifles. I'm not asking him to post his "hook ups", but to use his sources to find out. During the last big thread about this in GD, I had a few "industry" people IM on here saying that they were enjoying the thread and that the naysayers were in for a surprise. What makes me chuckle, is why people/haters are in disbelief that CAG would use G's. They build a great rifle and CAG has used G products for years on/in their 416's (wait, are they still 416's then?). Quoted: So did Chris Costa. Mentioned in an article back in 2018 or 2019 that a certain unit had selected 10.5" .300 blk, while showing his 10.5 noveske. Is S-1 Chris Costa? The plot thickens... Unfortunately, I haven't shown my tacticoolness on a runway stage in Japan. The dude is living the life though!! Quoted: I hate to be "that guy" again, but what exactly are you all going after when talking about "JSOC weapons?" JSOC is a headquarters that pulls together several different special mission units and other organizations. So JSOC weapons are whatever those individual SMUs and organizations use. It sounds like some people are talking about Delta, but want to call it "JSOC." Yeah, I know. When I said that I was meaning that all of the organizations under JSOC have modified/purpose built weapons. I'm just trying to figure out what to call my new 6290 EPR since I put a G H2 Super 42 spring, buffer and SSA-E in it. I may have to call Bendy Bill and ask him if my super dooty is still a SD if I put in the OBC that I ordered (not keeping my fingers crossed for it). Anyways, I'm all confused now. Have fun gents! |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 4:10:37 PM EDT
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Y’all are hitting part of the reason why JSOC builds are so fun - it encompasses a lot of cool stuff! Everything from tricked out comp’d 1911s to 6SM glocks to LVAWs, 416’s, tanno super duty uppers, SR25s, tOBRs and OBRs, etc. shit, if you have a badass breaching shotty, this would fit in here.
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Posted: 4/29/2022 4:55:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Y’all are hitting part of the reason why JSOC builds are so fun - it encompasses a lot of cool stuff! Everything from tricked out comp’d 1911s to 6SM glocks to LVAWs, 416’s, tanno super duty uppers, SR25s, tOBRs and OBRs, etc. shit, if you have a badass breaching shotty, this would fit in here. Someone say 6SM? *Placeholder* |
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Posted: 4/30/2022 12:15:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Despite the cries from KAC fanboyz, CAG and the 24th selected 10.3 and 14.5" G SD's to replace their 416's. lol nice |
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Posted: 4/30/2022 11:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Furthermore, nobody is going to throw in barrels with a manufacture date that corresponds to gun they are cloning. Quote HistoryQuoted: Furthermore, nobody is going to throw in barrels with a manufacture date that corresponds to gun they are cloning. Hello, my name is Nobody. Someone get the party started and post their tan super duty Someone isn't here yet, but we can always start without them. 
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Posted: 5/1/2022 12:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hello, my name is Nobody. Someone isn't here yet, but we can always start without them. https://i.imgur.com/VbXXWRs.jpg Haha my statement was more targeted towards clones of early GWOT guns, but well played |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 1:40:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2022 2:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryForgive my ignorance, but what is up with that front sight placement? Just curious about sight radius, and all that. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 4:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forgive my ignorance, but what is up with that front sight placement? Just curious about sight radius, and all that. My peq normally goes in front of it, so the sight is far enough back that the peq is still on the receiver rail |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 5:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pic thread: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405936/A00059E8-5F64-4987-88D2-8E70636083C0_jpe-2368485.JPG Just waiting on my lvaw handguard Is that the Wilcox magnifier/optic riser combo? |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 6:04:27 PM EDT
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@amt115
Yes, it is. Mine is the 5/8 set screw version. Both the .410” and the 5/8 have been seen in the wild on LVAWs. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 6:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless your lower is a colt third hole with a serial number in the range that was sent to the gov, it's not going to be 100% clone. Furthermore, nobody is going to throw in barrels with a manufacture date that corresponds to gun they are cloning. for fucks sake, this nonsense shit again |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 6:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @amt115 Yes, it is. Mine is the 5/8 set screw version. Both the .410” and the 5/8 have been seen in the wild on LVAWs. Nice ??. A dude had one in a class I was in the other day. It was a very sweet setup |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 10:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: for fucks sake, this nonsense shit again By cutting out part of the whole paragraph, I’m not sure what your issue is here. Are you in favor of excessively stringent clone requirements or against? I am most certainly on the lenient side and try to distance from some of the parts club stuffiness that can permeate other clone threads (people are and should pursue things to be as close to issued if they do choose. I would prefer to allow people to post in threads even if they didn’t go down the full rabbit hole of accurate markings on their roll mark) |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 8:54:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My peq normally goes in front of it, so the sight is far enough back that the peq is still on the receiver rail Ah, shit...copy. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 1:46:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2022 1:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Despite the cries from KAC fanboyz, CAG and the 24th selected 10.3 and 14.5" G SD's to replace their 416's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tag for the 10.3 and 14.5 Geissele Super Duty builds. Matt Pranka has been rocking a 10.3 Geissele on his Instagram. Probably not a coincidence considering what unit he came from. Despite the cries from KAC fanboyz, CAG and the 24th selected 10.3 and 14.5" G SD's to replace their 416's. Your information is now slightly outdated. This is no longer the case. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 2:00:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2022 2:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your information is now slightly outdated. This is no longer the case. 
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Posted: 5/3/2022 12:56:12 AM EDT
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Kind of a LVAW. Didn't really go after the clone accessories. SRD762TI is still in jail.
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Posted: 5/3/2022 1:43:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhoa neat never seen anything like that in ITW references. Do these stow in level 2/3 holsters or just custom kydex? |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 7:43:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoa neat never seen anything like that in ITW references. Do these stow in level 2/3 holsters or just custom kydex? @northcoastwizard Custom kydex. Advanced Holster was the OG, but some other companies made them for a short time.    
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Posted: 5/3/2022 1:20:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn. That’s badass. I think I’ve only seen one T1 SSM for sale on the EE for as long as I’ve been looking. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 7:11:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your information is now slightly outdated. This is no longer the case. Is it the surefire/geissele collab? 
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Posted: 5/7/2022 10:15:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it the surefire/geissele collab? https://teppoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/20191106-Geissele-Surefire-2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your information is now slightly outdated. This is no longer the case. Is it the surefire/geissele collab? https://teppoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/20191106-Geissele-Surefire-2.jpg That is pure sex |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 10:56:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if you have a badass breaching shotty, this would fit in here. Interesting. Breeching be fun. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 4:43:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2022 4:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it the surefire/geissele collab? https://teppoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/20191106-Geissele-Surefire-2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your information is now slightly outdated. This is no longer the case. Is it the surefire/geissele collab? https://teppoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/20191106-Geissele-Surefire-2.jpg No. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:04:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Please tell me it’s an mcx…
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