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Posted: 5/10/2023 3:45:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Boduke0220]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Rad. Somewhat mirrors my experience with the group, although I didn't have the Surefire baseline to compare it to. It's an interesting theory that it's related to the can, might be interesting to do some groups with the can off and see if it tightens up as a baseline. I'm also starting to suspect that these barrels just don't like 77. I know it's not a load they're primarily using with them and I think us civis are just using it because of the Mk 12 heritage. I'm kind of starting to get the desire to test some more realistic loads and see if it does better. Not that 1.75" moa is horrible or anything, but hearing what some of their accuracy expectations/standards are, dunno… all of my 416s are dramatically more consistent. In my head I expected a little better. Also really curious to see what accuracy the 300 is capable of. I took mine out ground hog hunting last year with some 55gr Vmax. It loved that ammo. I'll scroll back in my camera roll and see if i can find the groups when i zero'd for that ammo. i want to say it was around an 1.1-1.25 MOA. I can say the ground hogs were not huge fans of it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 6:46:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2023 6:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: 70gr TSX is the standard for JSOC right? Slap the ATACR on your .300 and let it rip! I have to imagine it’s got to be close to similar performance as the Johnny rifle. Well, 70gr I think is brown tip if I remember right, which does get used a lot. I also remember hearing from a guy about a different Black Hills product, I think it was 62 or 63 grain that he said they were really impressed with. I can try to do some more digging if it's helpful. Re: 300, yeah, I think you're right, the more I think about it the more I just want the recce configuration in 300. Which means the 5.56 would be setup just like all my 416 assaulter builds, which is kinda dumb/redundant but whatever. I almost just wanna grab another barrel and do both configurations in 300 lmao. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 7:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Well, 70gr I think is brown tip if I remember right, which does get used a lot. I also remember hearing from a guy about a different Black Hills product, I think it was 62 or 63 grain that he said they were really impressed with. I can try to do some more digging if it's helpful. Re: 300, yeah, I think you're right, the more I think about it the more I just want the recce configuration in 300. Which means the 5.56 would be setup just like all my 416 assaulter builds, which is kinda dumb/redundant but whatever. I almost just wanna grab another barrel and do both configurations in 300 lmao. Lmao I hear ya. I have two 4 uppers and 2 lowers for that same reason. For what it’s worth I don’t think dev is taking long shots with the noveske. I can’t remember if it’s Terry Houin or Bill Rapier who said the longest shot they took on target was within 200M. So they probably aren’t asking for shooting dime sized groups on top of each other. I’m sure they got guns that can do that but don’t think this gun is that gun. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 8:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345447795_625385666131322_20482860216636-2812470.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345449174_611049354295081_54610826338040-2812471.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345451288_140821798974453_25812308113571-2812472.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345840791_1623288174853982_7639247511038-2812473.JPG These pics were posted 2 pages back. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 9:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: These pics were posted 2 pages back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By brodband8: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345447795_625385666131322_20482860216636-2812470.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345449174_611049354295081_54610826338040-2812471.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345451288_140821798974453_25812308113571-2812472.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/345840791_1623288174853982_7639247511038-2812473.JPG These pics were posted 2 pages back. last week of the semester and I'll finally be able to get out a shoot.  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:49:50 PM EDT
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How hard would it be to get Geissele to make a group buy for us to get SSA-X government triggers?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:35:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: How hard would it be to get Geissele to make a group buy for us to get SSA-X government triggers? Is that a thing? I'd be totally DTF for this if it can happen. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:51:57 PM EDT
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Interested in a potential SSA-X group buy as well.
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USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 5:42:17 PM EDT
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I’d be in for 2.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 7:39:08 PM EDT
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I’ll email geissele about it..unless someone has a direct line
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Posted: 5/11/2023 8:26:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: These pics were posted 2 pages back. Perfect, now they are posted again. Oops. |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 1:11:29 AM EDT
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I just ordered a Sandman-S mil FDE. They seemed to be disappearing and only a few in stock in a few places. I'm sending it to Capital Armory to do the paperwork. In two weeks I'll need to snag the AAC M4-2k also. The fees to transfer it suck, but I guess you have to pay to play the clone game.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 12:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: I’ll email geissele about it..unless someone has a direct line Geissele said they can’t produce any for sale unless it’s contract overrun, to which they are allowed to put on sale. They don’t know when the next contract will be. |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 1:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Geissele said they can’t produce any for sale unless it’s contract overrun, to which they are allowed to put on sale. They don’t know when the next contract will be. I wonder what contract they would have got for a semi FCG?? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 1:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: I wonder what contract they would have got for a semi FCG?? Maybe the Navy 6arc GFR ? The pictures showed a semi auto gun. |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 4:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Maybe the Navy 6arc GFR ? The pictures showed a semi auto gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Originally Posted By officerX: I wonder what contract they would have got for a semi FCG?? Maybe the Navy 6arc GFR ? The pictures showed a semi auto gun. Still seem to be stocking the ssae-x with lightning bow so I feel like it was more of a chance for them to sell a $300 trigger then overstocks. And since they just recently delivered those 6arcs seems like they should have over runs of those if that was the case. But idk |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 4:22:14 PM EDT
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NSR 9" rails are in stock at MidwayUSA.
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Posted: 5/12/2023 5:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manticore: NSR 9" rails are in stock at MidwayUSA. Nice! Looks like I am going to put together a 300blk DEVGRU upper now also. |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:28:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ch0b0]
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Just got my ssa-x gov in from here: notjustguns
Looks like they have two left. Am I out of the loop? Isn't the actual trigger an SSF-X and this is just a not-correct-alternative like an SSA vs SSF in an M4? Didn't they release these along side the 2nd gen federal 10" rails? I always assumed that's what they were for. Really debating on following everyone else and getting my lower anodized and coated again with my new set. In ban state now and can't buy anymore lowers. 
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ch0b0: Just got my ssa-x gov in from here: notjustguns Looks like they have two left. Am I out of the loop? Isn't the actual trigger an SSF-X and this is just a not-correct-alternative like an SSA vs SSF in an M4? Didn't they release these along side the 2nd gen federal 10" rails? I always assumed that's what they were for. Really debating on following everyone else and getting my lower anodized and coated again with my new set. In ban state now and can't buy anymore lowers. https://i.imgur.com/lwr46Le.jpg |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 7:13:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ch0b0: Just got my ssa-x gov in from here: notjustguns Looks like they have two left. Am I out of the loop? Isn't the actual trigger an SSF-X and this is just a not-correct-alternative like an SSA vs SSF in an M4? Didn't they release these along side the 2nd gen federal 10" rails? I always assumed that's what they were for. Really debating on following everyone else and getting my lower anodized and coated again with my new set. In ban state now and can't buy anymore lowers. https://i.imgur.com/lwr46Le.jpg sold out |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 10:28:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Geissele SSA-X secured. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/EA710CDB-F396-4537-9CB3-073BEEA9CA05_jpe-2784022.JPG Can I play too? 
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Posted: 5/12/2023 10:40:24 PM EDT
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I know it’s not 100% clone correct but all of the main parts are. These seem to be pretty user configurable so this is how I like mine.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 5:58:57 PM EDT
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I really liked using a bad lever, but my bolt wouldn't cycle correctly when shooting subs. Never took the time to diagnose what was going wrong. As soon as I took it off everything worked ok.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 6:01:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ch0b0: I really liked using a bad lever, but my bolt wouldn't cycle correctly when shooting subs. Never took the time to diagnose what was going wrong. As soon as I took it off everything worked ok. I had problems with the bolt not going completely into battery with subs. I’d have to hit the FA once. I haven’t had time yet to figure out if it’s an ammo, buffer or something else issue. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 3:36:22 PM EDT
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Gen 1 b-line lowers up
https://noveske.com/products/gen-1-lower-receiver-chainsaw-armor-black-cerakote/ |
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USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 3:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Gen 1 b-line lowers up https://noveske.com/products/gen-1-lower-receiver-chainsaw-armor-black-cerakote/ Already out of stock 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 4:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Gen 1 b-line lowers up https://noveske.com/products/gen-1-lower-receiver-chainsaw-armor-black-cerakote/ Got one! LFG!! |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:48:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bhavin22]
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Chainsaw blem logo was way better than this new B-line crap
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:08:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22: Chainsaw blem logo was way better than this new B-line crap H-265 hides it nicely 
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: H-265 hides it nicely
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:53:32 PM EDT
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Rattler has been getting most of the lovin as of late.
300 feels like a toy compared to it. 
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Posted: 5/17/2023 4:00:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: officerX]
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SSA-X here.
I’ve never done business with them but I know a guy that bought 2 from them. ETA: I am/was about to order another one but they want $39.99 for shipping!! |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 6:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: SSA-X here. I’ve never done business with them but I know a guy that bought 2 from them. ETA: I am/was about to order another one but they want $39.99 for shipping!! 
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Posted: 5/22/2023 8:02:09 AM EDT
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Which page/post has all the specs again for this build?
Particularly, the lower. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 8:37:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Which page/post has all the specs again for this build? Particularly, the lower. Lower Receiver: Noveske Gen 1 Lower Receiver (Newer Engraving Style, F or W prefixed Lowers) (Take down pins are Cross Marked) |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2023 9:39:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Which page/post has all the specs again for this build? Particularly, the lower. Gen 1 is discontinued, so if you have a source on one, best to get it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:29:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Gen 1 is discontinued, so if you have a source on one, best to get it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Which page/post has all the specs again for this build? Particularly, the lower. Gen 1 is discontinued, so if you have a source on one, best to get it. Yeah I have the Gen 1 lower - was more curious about the specific trigger guard, trigger, end plate, and pistol grip. I have the lower parts kit that includes the cross marked takedown/pivot pins. But couldn't remember if the selector was just the standard one? Or something different? |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Yeah I have the Gen 1 lower - was more curious about the specific trigger guard, trigger, end plate, and pistol grip. I have the lower parts kit that includes the cross marked takedown/pivot pins. But couldn't remember if the selector was just the standard one? Or something different? standard selector that is in the Noveske lower parts kit. Trigger is SSF-X (SSA-X gov for us civs). End plate is noveske end plate or Magpul ASAP end plate. Pistol grip is the Magpul K2 FDE |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:47:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Yeah I have the Gen 1 lower - was more curious about the specific trigger guard, trigger, end plate, and pistol grip. I have the lower parts kit that includes the cross marked takedown/pivot pins. But couldn't remember if the selector was just the standard one? Or something different? Originally Posted By Omega9000: standard selector that is in the Noveske lower parts kit. Trigger is SSF-X (SSA-X gov for us civs). End plate is noveske end plate or Magpul ASAP end plate. Pistol grip is the Magpul K2 FDE FDE polymer Magpul trigger guard |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:51:39 AM EDT
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Posted: 5/22/2023 4:28:05 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2023 4:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: https://i.imgur.com/o4BE8UZ.jpg That’s the total package right there. Well done. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 4:35:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: https://i.imgur.com/o4BE8UZ.jpg nice. Even though it's not a laser beam rifle with 77gr. I feel that the ATACR 5.56 setup is a great general purpose gun. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:36:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: That’s the total package right there. Well done. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: That’s the total package right there. Well done. Originally Posted By Omega9000: nice. Even though it's not a laser beam rifle with 77gr. I feel that the ATACR 5.56 setup is a great general purpose gun. Winchester M855 62gr was as expected. ~1.5-1.75 at 100 Austrian Outback .233 69gr was legit moa. I don't know if anyone remembers this stuff, but they were blowing this round out a couple years back. I have a metric shit ton of this stuff. Obviously, not the full 556 pressuring; but it does give a slight nod to this barrel liking a lower grain. It's a sample size of one, so don't take this all as gospel. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2023 5:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: As cool as the Inforce light is, I still hate it lol. I never followed up, but I tested again with 62/69gr rounds. Winchester M855 62gr was as expected. ~1.5-1.75 at 100 Austrian Outback .233 69gr was legit moa. I don't know if anyone remembers this stuff, but they were blowing this round out a couple years back. I have a metric shit ton of this stuff. Obviously, not the full 556 pressuring; but it does give a slight nod to this barrel liking a lower grain. It's a sample size of one, so don't take this all as gospel. Now that you say that, maybe Dev and the like are using a new lighter grain round. I think TinyCrumb mentioned he had some notes on a lighter grain round in use or being tested. That may be the "particular 5.56 ammo" that was causing issue with the Dead air Sandman S mil we saw mentioned several pages back. Hmmmm the plot thickens. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 6:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: Now that you say that, maybe Dev and the like are using a new lighter grain round. I think TinyCrumb mentioned he had some notes on a lighter grain round in use or being tested. That may be the "particular 5.56 ammo" that was causing issue with the Dead air Sandman S mil we saw mentioned several pages back. Hmmmm the plot thickens. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 10:05:57 PM EDT
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Gen 1 B-Line lowers are back up on the Noveske site.
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AR, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2023 11:50:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bchance1]
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Got one! And 1 still left.
Edit. Gone |
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