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Posted: 6/13/2022 7:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4runnagunna: Most major manufacturers Cerakote over Ano. When I was at DD, they just lightly blast the Ano to scuff it up and then the robot sprays the Cerakote in the booth right over the Ano. I imagine that should hold up. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 8:47:57 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 11:50:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Netliquid]
[#3]
Not the best picture haha. Just waiting on the M4-2000 to be coated! Deadlock here in Orlando did my Cerakote and I cant recommend them enough. Danny did a great job and will definitely be back to get more work done.
Still need an MLOK mount for my light 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 12:57:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MNRidesHonda]
[#4]
Just got home from work.
Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore  
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USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:12:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BoatingAccident]
[#5]
Gun is back from paint and assembly. Build list below:
https://imgur.com/a/vmvfJCz Dead Air 3 Prong Flash Hider Noveske 10.5" CQB Barrel & Low-pro gas block Noveske NSR 9" handguard Noveske Super Badass Airborne charging handle DDC Noveske mil-spec BCG Noveske Gen III upper receiver Noveske Gen I lower receiver Noveske marked takedown / pivot pins Magpul enhanced aluminum trigger guard Geissele SSA trigger Noveske lower parts kit Noveske stamped buffer tube end plate & nitrided castle nut Noveske stamped forward assist Classified Defense 556 dust cover (correct font and sizing) BCM Mod 3 pistol grip VLTOR A5 buffer tube Geissele super 42 rifle length spring & VLTOR A5H3 buffer Railscales RSB vertical grip Unity FAST optic riser Magpul CTR milspec stock The following were painted in Cerakote HIR-265 FDE with a 12:1 ratio which gives it the correct color but with suppressed IR signature properties under night vision to make it less visible in the field. Upper receiver, lower receiver, unity riser, railscales vertical grip, A5 buffer tube, CTR stock (fully disassembled and reassembled), BCM pistol grip and trigger guard Pretty happy with how it turned out. Just got laid off today (irony) so lmk if anyone wants it. Sure is sexy wall art in the meantime. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:01:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg You should say more |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:12:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Who did your cerakote? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:17:15 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know ? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg I'm sure one of the few people in here who have contract overrun uppers can comment on the wear and what is underneath the cerakote. Also I think most of us know that dead air doesn't do any special coatings as they arnt exactly know for their durable finish. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:53:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: That offers no support for your statement that they cerakoted those rifles raw. I'm sure one of the few people in here who have contract overrun uppers can comment on the wear and what is underneath the cerakote. Also I think most of us know that dead air doesn't do any special coatings as they arnt exactly know for their durable finish. Slade's deflector still looks pretty good and he probably shoots more than all of us. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 1:34:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Teller_Ulam]
[#10]
Cerakote over raw aluminum would be a very shitty finish.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 1:57:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Netliquid]
[#11]
Saw this post from @allyoutpost on IG and you can see some of the wear
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Posted: 6/14/2022 2:01:24 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Netliquid: Saw this post from @allyoutpost on IG and you can see some of the wear https://i.imgur.com/DP4tk0U.jpg And that's what happened when you just coat over ano. You get random chips/flakes like that. My mil trade-in KACs are exactly the same. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:42:22 PM EDT
[#13]
But at least there's anodizing there to protect the aluminium. In LSUjon's case the cerekote is is coming off anyways and exposing raw aluminium. I know which I'd rather have.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:52:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#14]
Put a piece of duct tape over your shell deflector if your worried about your Jordan's getting scuffed.
It's a high wear area especially with an over gassed barrel and 300 BLK supers. Those things have AK like ejection. It's a rifle not a decorative vase. My bolt guns Cerakote is coming off where the brass kicks off it. That's sure as hell not an application issue it's an expectation issue. Who cares, it's aluminum not raw steel. It'll be ok. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:06:42 PM EDT
[#15]
I personally have never had good results with Cerakote on anything. It always seems to chip.
It didn't matter if the the gun was raw underneath or ano underneath. It didn't matter if the Cerakote was done by a person or a robot. Simply put, I've never had good luck with Cerakote. I know that may be a little of topic for this thread, I just had to state my feelings on Cerakote in general. I'm not knocking anyone's ability who does Cerakote either. Yes I've had work done by a few different Cerakote certified appliers. I've had factory guns done by robots too. I'm just saying the finish itself isn't as great as people seems to think it is. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Put a piece of duct tape over your shell deflector if your worried about your Jordan's getting scuffed. It's a high wear area especially with an over gassed barrel and 300 BLK supers. Those things have AK like ejection. It's a rifle not a decorative vase. My bolt guns Cerakote is coming off where the brass kicks off it. That's sure as hell not an application issue it's an expectation issue. Who cares, it's aluminum not raw steel. It'll be ok. Majority here knows it's not an indestructible coating. Quite opposite in all honesty. I'm over simplifying, but it's just fancy spray paint. There are some choice members on this thread that have shared pictures that clearly show a different "wear" pattern on their rifles. Those rifles are wearing through the cerokote layer into anodizing, than aluminum. The hardcore dudes in this thread, (me included) is just chasing that specific application process. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: It's a clone thread. We're trying to figure out and mimic the cerokote process used on this rifle. Majority here knows it's not an indestructible coating. Quite opposite in all honesty. I'm over simplifying, but it's just fancy spray paint. Â There are some choice members on this thread that have shared pictures that clearly show a different "wear" pattern on their rifles. Those rifles are wearing through the cerokote layer into anodizing, than aluminum. The hardcore dudes in this thread, (me included) is just chasing that specific application process. Maybe just call noveske? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:14:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnyUtah427]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: It's a clone thread. We're trying to figure out and mimic the cerokote process used on this rifle. Majority here knows it's not an indestructible coating. Quite opposite in all honesty. I'm over simplifying, but it's just fancy spray paint. Â There are some choice members on this thread that have shared pictures that clearly show a different "wear" pattern on their rifles. Those rifles are wearing through the cerokote layer into anodizing, than aluminum. The hardcore dudes in this thread, (me included) is just chasing that specific application process. *then |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Maybe just call noveske? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:16:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: *then |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:18:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Put a piece of duct tape over your shell deflector if your worried about your Jordan's getting scuffed. It's a high wear area especially with an over gassed barrel and 300 BLK supers. Those things have AK like ejection. It's a rifle not a decorative vase. My bolt guns Cerakote is coming off where the brass kicks off it. That's sure as hell not an application issue it's an expectation issue. Who cares, it's aluminum not raw steel. It'll be ok. 1. There was an application issue. 2. The whole clone aspect mention before. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:31:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: smashhole1320]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg Lol no kidding DA doesn’t anodize under the Cerakote. It’s stainless steel! Factory Noveske built civilian rifles are hard coat anodized underneath the Cerakote. I can confirm this. Nor do I ever strip the part of all dye, I etch per Cerakote’s guidelines. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:35:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: smashhole1320]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I am far from one to cry about scuffs on my rifle from normal wear and tare. However, the fact that I have more wear from 75 rounds compared to others who have the exact same set up as me with 4-5x the amount of rounds through their's raises my eyebrows as to weather: 1. There was an application issue. 2. The whole clone aspect mention before. Making big assumptions but from the one picture it looks like to me maybe too much hardener which could cause a brittle coating or it was never flashed before curing. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:45:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I am far from one to cry about scuffs on my rifle from normal wear and tare. However, the fact that I have more wear from 75 rounds compared to others who have the exact same set up as me with 4-5x the amount of rounds through their's raises my eyebrows as to weather: 1. There was an application issue. 2. The whole clone aspect mention before. *whether |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:59:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: *whether
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:02:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Covered. Check a page back. I meant call them about how the Dev rifles were coated. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2022 2:17:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cherokeefan03]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg I've seen the real guns that are anodized underneath the coating. So it seems we are at an impasse. |
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Posted: 6/15/2022 7:06:26 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teller_Ulam: Cerakote over raw aluminum would be a very shitty finish. You realize this is exactly what Cerakote tells you to do right? Sandblasting to raw aluminum and coating properly gets the best and longest lasting finish I've found. Cerakoting over anodizing is possible, but it's super important for perfect surface prep. If you wanted that nice black under tan look. Sandblast to bare aluminum, Cerakote in black, bake for 15min, coat in tan. Done. You've got a better coat that you'd get with Cerakoting over anodizing. If you're trying to clone, I'd recommend starting with a lower with a pin above the safety
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USA
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Posted: 6/15/2022 11:53:14 AM EDT
[#29]
According to their manual it's just a light etch:
"Anodized parts will require sand blasting, however it is not necessary to completely remove the anodized finish. It is recommended to lightly etch blast at 30-40 PSI. Anodized parts that have been sufficiently blasted should have a dull, matte appearance." |
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Posted: 6/15/2022 2:44:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ivan1]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teller_Ulam: According to their manual it's just a light etch: "Anodized parts will require sand blasting, however it is not necessary to completely remove the anodized finish. It is recommended to lightly etch blast at 30-40 PSI. Anodized parts that have been sufficiently blasted should have a dull, matte appearance." Thats how I would want mine done. I have some things to take care of but that is next on my things to do. Now to find who can do it like that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2022 8:34:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Well, it's been a year since I bought my can and its still in jail.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2022 9:55:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Omega9000]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doyouquaxu: Well, it's been a year since I bought my can and its still in jail. I hear you. I'm at 405 days. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2022 11:02:23 PM EDT
[#33]
So I guess we will know who shoots their guns by the brass deflector. I can totally see "Show me you your brass deflector" being fighting words in the near future
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Posted: 6/16/2022 12:17:31 PM EDT
[#34]
There is some Black Hills 201 ME on Tacswap.
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Posted: 6/16/2022 1:41:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihenderson77: There is some Black Hills 201 ME on Tacswap. Are you the seller? |
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Posted: 6/16/2022 3:38:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Are you the seller? No, The shop I work for is. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 12:50:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Sandman-S mil can cleared today, picking it up this afternoon. Exactly 366 days. F the ATF.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 1:22:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Sandman-S mil can cleared today, picking it up this afternoon. Exactly 366 days. F the ATF. My check was cashed on 07/06/2021. I guess I’ve got another month. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/18/2022 10:48:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg As I'm taking a closer look at this gun, maybe it's just the lighting, but it the finish looks more rough (almost like cask iron skillet) and less glossy. MNRidesHonda, when you were hands on with this gun did you notice that or is it just this picture playing tricks on me. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/18/2022 2:22:38 PM EDT
[#40]
The newest Noveske buffer tube sets do not have the holes drilled in them for “over the beach.” Ordered a few and all are just standard milspec 6 position tubes. FYI….
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Posted: 6/18/2022 2:58:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: The newest Noveske buffer tube sets do not have the holes drilled in them for “over the beach.” Ordered a few and all are just standard milspec 6 position tubes.  FYI…. From Noveske's site? The last buffer tube set from Optics Planet had Otb holes. (About a month ago) |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/18/2022 3:45:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Lame. From Noveske's site? The last buffer tube set from Optics Planet had Otb holes. (About a month ago) Got these from OP…they were in the new trendy Noveske packaging. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:37:28 PM EDT
[#43]
417 and 405
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:21:17 PM EDT
[#44]
That the Scalarworks 1.93 with the G33 Magnifier?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:39:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryFinally. Looks good complete! |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:15:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ejc204: That the Scalarworks 1.93 with the G33 Magnifier? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ejc204: That the Scalarworks 1.93 with the G33 Magnifier? Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Finally. Looks good complete! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:28:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Omega9000]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Just got home from work. Here's the real deal 300 BLK gat from late 2019 with no ano underneath for y'all to fap to. But what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️? The cans were coated from the raw as well. No special coating underneath lol. ETA: btw, DEVGRU don't just use DA cans but I'm not saying anymore https://i.imgur.com/DuMcQ3c.jpg God, I hope it's a surefire RC can. If it's good enough for the rest of special operations, CAG and 24th STS included, why bother trying to reinvent the wheel by procuring an entirely different suppressor. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:25:20 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: God, I hope it's a surefire RC can. If it's good enough for the rest of special operations, CAG and 24th STS included, why bother trying to reinvent the wheel by procuring an entirely different suppressor. Kinda be disappointed to put the longer can on there when approved |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:00:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: God, I hope it's a surefire RC can. If it's good enough for the rest of special operations, CAG and 24th STS included, why bother trying to reinvent the wheel by procuring an entirely different suppressor. CAG and DG hush hush can is SiCo. It’s K size, reduced back pressure, and quiet as a full size can. It’s also FDE 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2022 10:37:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda: CAG and DG hush hush can is SiCo. It’s K size, reduced back pressure, and quiet as a full size can. It’s also FDE That explains that one cag pic with the sico flash hider on the 416. |
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