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Posted: 4/7/2021 1:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: So a normal Geissele Block would be ok by itself? I think that’s what most people are using |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 5:02:15 PM EDT
[#2]
For those with both Gen 1 & 2 MK4 Fed Rails.
Which would you prefer to a clone build? |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 5:10:07 PM EDT
[#3]
I prefer the first gen w/ the shorter bottom rail + laser engraving on both sides and MLOK logo.
And second gens I’ve gotten feel chalky. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2021 5:11:23 PM EDT
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In ODG I believe the Gen1 is the more accurate if the two. I have not seen an in the wild pic of an actual SWAT rifle with a Gen2
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Posted: 4/7/2021 7:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: So a normal Geissele Block would be ok by itself? I used a BRT insert. .067" IIRC. I installed it in the gas block myself, it's easy to do if you can use a tap. I've dealt with BRT several times and never had anything but positive experiences. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 4:07:37 AM EDT
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Hi everyone!
I want to ask for help. Maybe someone knows if the FBI SWAT uses a suppressor? If so, which one? Kac or Surefire? Maybe a product from another manufacturer? Thank you very much in advance! 
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Posted: 4/9/2021 9:39:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
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HUN
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Posted: 4/9/2021 12:17:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Not yet. They are currently testing a couple for future use. Thank you! |
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USA
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Posted: 4/9/2021 12:33:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muzap: I used a BRT insert. .067" IIRC. I installed it in the gas block myself, it's easy to do if you can use a tap. I've dealt with BRT several times and never had anything but positive experiences. I believe that to get a .067 gas port, you need a .065 BRT insert. That’s what I did. The gas tubes may be the opposite. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 8:01:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: I prefer the first gen w/ the shorter bottom rail + laser engraving on both sides and MLOK logo. And second gens I’ve gotten feel chalky. My black GEN2 feels the same way, also looks like it too  at least in pictures, though it is a tad on the light shade side in person
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2021 11:12:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: Gray build in motion. Still need to Form 1 the lower below: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123535/BD98FDF7-5A7D-4D26-B272-344EDC77132D_jpe-1888911.JPG Not sure if I’m gonna stick w/ the titanium parts. I’d done this lower to be kinda Gucci-ish after doing clones for so long. Might be a bit over the top and gaudy for the gray fed. Are those Ti parts from V7 ? |
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Posted: 4/11/2021 11:54:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: C6H12O6]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 69206933: Are those Ti parts from V7 ? @69206933 PM sent |
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Posted: 4/12/2021 12:27:47 AM EDT
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With the Sig Romeo 4M discontinued, has there been a new optic chosen to replace it besides Aimpoint T/H series?
(Wish I’d kept my 4M I got cheap a couple years ago) |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2021 8:43:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Getting my FSB shaved at ADCO and wanted to know how hard is it to re install it on the HRT Heavy barrel. I have the tapered pins. Thanks.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:39:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dms888: Getting my FSB shaved at ADCO and wanted to know how hard is it to re install it on the HRT Heavy barrel. I have the tapered pins. Thanks. It’s not hard at all. Put a little oil on the barrel and inside the FSB, slide it on, eyeball the taper pin holes and insert the pins smaller side first. For a Colt FSB the pin should go in from right to left when reassembling. Tap in the pins w/ a punch & hammer. Blocks like the Brownells piece shown below or one from Wheeler make FSB stuff a bit easier. It just sucks when the pin mushrooms.  Attached File |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2021 9:47:27 PM EDT
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What light switch setup is good to go ?
I’m running a surefire scout with tape switch zip tied. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:34:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2021 8:23:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: xoran]
[#18]
Finally was able to track down the parts for a rather faithful Regional SWAT clone. However, I added a couple of my own touches. Namely the IWC Thorntail mount for the WML since i like the placement of controls for me, as well as the IWC offset QD mount. I never like using the built in QD mounts on aluminum rails with steel QD swivels.
The other “swap” is using a LaRue LT 660 mount for the Aimpoint T2. Everything else is pretty faithful and built around a Colt 11.5 barrel (Non FBI HRT profile) and a Colt cage code upper, BCG and Geissele Government Charging Handle.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2021 4:49:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoran: Finally was able to track down the parts for a rather faithful Regional SWAT clone. However, I added a couple of my own touches. Namely the IWC Thorntail mount for the WML since i like the placement of controls for me, as well as the IWC offset QD mount. I never like using the built in QD mounts on aluminum rails with steel QD swivels. The other “swap” is using a LaRue LT 660 mount for the Aimpoint T2. Everything else is pretty faithful and built around a Colt 11.5 barrel (Non FBI HRT profile) and a Colt cage code upper, BCG and Geissele Government Charging Handle. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421704/F8344382-AE4F-4F51-BC05-5BF0FE1B2AE5_jpe-1910437.JPG Looks great. Nicely done |
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Posted: 4/21/2021 2:54:01 PM EDT
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Ok guys, today, 4PM a big batch of ODG 10” MK4 fed rails AND ODG 13.5 MK16 rails are going to go up!!! It's 1st come first served on the webstore for them to keep this fair. Good luck!!! -GACS https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/OD-Federal-MK4-Availabilty-/444-297146/?page=2&anc=3906670#i3906670 |
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Posted: 4/21/2021 9:47:47 PM EDT
[#21]
For the teams using surefire cans, did we figure out which mount they use?
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Posted: 4/22/2021 4:15:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThRob: For the teams using surefire cans, did we figure out which mount they use? From the pics on page 1 it shows 3 prong on a few. I went with the SFCT because you will not see it anyway and looks close to a standard birdcage without the can. |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 6:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22: From the pics on page 1 it shows 3 prong on a few. I went with the SFCT because you will not see it anyway and looks close to a standard birdcage without the can. Me too |
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USA
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Posted: 4/23/2021 1:56:40 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm all for cloning or near cloning, but is the inforce light worth getting? I heard they have horrible reliability
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Posted: 4/23/2021 2:17:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LP610: I'm all for cloning or near cloning, but is the inforce light worth getting? I heard they have horrible reliability If you are that worried get the SureFire For me it’s not my main home defense setup so I don’t care to much and got the inforce. I’m also not overly rough with this setup so there’s that also. |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 5:27:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Make_Mine_Moxie]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LP610: I'm all for cloning or near cloning, but is the inforce light worth getting? I heard they have horrible reliability |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 9:13:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
[#27]
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Posted: 4/23/2021 9:25:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LP610: I'm all for cloning or near cloning, but is the inforce light worth getting? I heard they have horrible reliability A couple agencies local to me issue and use them, haven't heard anything negative from them. They're approved by my agency, but I'll be the first guy running one. I'll see how it holds up. If I don't like it, I'll get a Surefire. If there's anything that's true, it's that cops and soldiers can break anything. A lot of people love Streamlight, but we've broken the shit out of TLR1s at my agency. |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 9:54:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
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Posted: 4/23/2021 10:32:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: My issued Inforce shit the bed in a single training session. Another teammate had the same result. Almost every other teammate has switched to SF scouts after their inforce lights have broken. Don’t waste your time, or you’ll have no light when you need one most. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Originally Posted By AZgunner: A couple agencies local to me issue and use them, haven't heard anything negative from them. They're approved by my agency, but I'll be the first guy running one. I'll see how it holds up. If I don't like it, I'll get a Surefire. If there's anything that's true, it's that cops and soldiers can break anything. A lot of people love Streamlight, but we've broken the shit out of TLR1s at my agency. My issued Inforce shit the bed in a single training session. Another teammate had the same result. Almost every other teammate has switched to SF scouts after their inforce lights have broken. Don’t waste your time, or you’ll have no light when you need one most. Good to know. I'll be running it through a few training sessions before I deploy it on a work rifle. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 12:28:16 PM EDT
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Which Surefire lights are y'all running? Or I guess I should ask, which is the most appropriate model for a clone?
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Posted: 4/25/2021 6:43:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tactical_dude]
[#32]
Originally Posted By Log: Which Surefire lights are y'all running? Or I guess I should ask, which is the most appropriate model for a clone? Surefire M300C |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2021 2:24:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Anyone know what page the parts list for the HRT rifle is on? I heard they don't use ODG rails anymore, is this true?
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Posted: 4/27/2021 2:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROFLBBQLOLZ: Anyone know what page the parts list for the HRT rifle is on? I heard they don't use ODG rails anymore, is this true? The original post has a bunch of info on it. ODG has always been for regional SWAT and HRT uses DDC. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2021 2:48:31 PM EDT
[#35]
Crap my bad, I didn't open up the first post with all the updates. I've been seeing a lot of people posting HRT clones with is green rails, it looks cool but technically not clone correct I guess. Thanks!
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Posted: 4/27/2021 2:53:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Heads up guys
Geissele has the grey & ODG Fed Rails in stock |
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Posted: 4/27/2021 9:24:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Inforce lights break where the heads screw into the bodies. It doesn't take much: banging off a door frame or getting out a vehicle fast will do it.
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Posted: 4/27/2021 10:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROFLBBQLOLZ: Crap my bad, I didn't open up the first post with all the updates. I've been seeing a lot of people posting HRT clones with is green rails, it looks cool but technically not clone correct I guess. Thanks! No problem, a shit ton of guys did clones that basically mix the two, using the HRT barrel with the ODG rail. When in reality, it should be HRT Barrel/DDC Rail or 6933 Barrel/ODG Rail. I pounced on a stripped 6933 barrel while they were in stock and am glad I did. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2021 9:22:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZgunner: No problem, a shit ton of guys did clones that basically mix the two, using the HRT barrel with the ODG rail. When in reality, it should be HRT Barrel/DDC Rail or 6933 Barrel/ODG Rail. I pounced on a stripped 6933 barrel while they were in stock and am glad I did. I see they're in stock on a few websites but they have the FSB. What gas block did you go with? |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 12:03:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROFLBBQLOLZ: I see they're in stock on a few websites but they have the FSB. What gas block did you go with?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 2:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123535/983C7264-D843-4F9F-AEDA-3A55EF36CD56_jpe-1922158.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: Originally Posted By ROFLBBQLOLZ: I see they're in stock on a few websites but they have the FSB. What gas block did you go with? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123535/983C7264-D843-4F9F-AEDA-3A55EF36CD56_jpe-1922158.JPG Yep, exactly. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:02:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA-Minuteman]
[#42]
More Grey & OD rails in stock at Giessele
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2021 6:04:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dms888]
[#43]
Heads up just posted up in the EE my Colt HRT/FBI Heavy 11.5” with ADCO shaved FSB, NEW,
Appreciate it. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2021 8:45:02 PM EDT
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I'm not sure I saw it mentioned, but besides the different color rail, heavy barrel and the Spuhr mount; HRT rifles are the same as regional teams right? Or do they have different color furniture? Irons? etc?
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Posted: 4/29/2021 9:34:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSintraining: I'm not sure I saw it mentioned, but besides the different color rail, heavy barrel and the Spuhr mount; HRT rifles are the same as regional teams right? Or do they have different color furniture? Irons? etc? HRT uses FDE stocks, as far as I can tell all grips are black. |
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Posted: 4/30/2021 2:57:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSintraining: I'm not sure I saw it mentioned, but besides the different color rail, heavy barrel and the Spuhr mount; HRT rifles are the same as regional teams right? Or do they have different color furniture? Irons? etc? I'm pretty sure they have a lot of flexibility. Like a lot. Painted guns, stock selection, etc. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2021 11:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: More Grey & OD rails in stock at Giessele Snagged a grey one, gonna do one of the maxim stocks for one of the 'vehicle teams.' |
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Posted: 5/1/2021 10:56:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doyouquaxu: Snagged a grey one, gonna do one of the maxim stocks for one of the 'vehicle teams.' Good luck finding a CQB HRT stock Maybe e-mail/send a message to Maxim requesting they make more HRTs. If enough of us ask maybe they will again. My stamp just came in yesterday. Need to tighten up all the parts....  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2021 11:06:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: Good luck finding a CQB HRT stock Maybe e-mail/send a message to Maxim requesting they make more HRTs. If enough of us ask maybe they will again. Already did at the beginning of April and posted their response in here. |
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Posted: 5/1/2021 8:11:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EMSintraining]
[#50]
Another HRT question. I've got a Spuhr mount, screws appear to have blue threadlocker already applied, but T2s have helicoils which don't play nice with thread locker. Any chance the blue stuff is something else other than thread locker or do I need to clean this stuff off before putting the mount on? Or maybe it's vibratite which supposedly works alright with helicoils?
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