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Posted: 6/13/2018 1:01:31 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Badger would be clone correct. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By donkeykong:
What low pro gas blocks are you guys using under your KAC long FF RAS? I have an inbound Lilja barrel and do not want to pin the gas block. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 1:43:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
I used a Badger with a WOA barrel on my Mod1 and had a BITCH of a time getting it to fit. I think I'm about to splurge on a 16.1" mid-length Douglas and will likely buy one of their low-pro blocks to match. Otherwise, I used a CMMG block on my mini-recce; no issues. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 2:09:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: About damn time. I think I may have seen one in the EE the other day FYI. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 2:37:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: He needs to go 15.1 but won’t listen! 
15.1 > 16 > 18 |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 2:45:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Long collar or short collar for the AEM5? And this would be a correct muzzle device for mounting the AEM5 correct?
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003402277/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 2:47:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
I used a Badger with a WOA barrel on my Mod1 and had a BITCH of a time getting it to fit. I think I'm about to splurge on a 16.1" mid-length Douglas and will likely buy one of their low-pro blocks to match. Otherwise, I used a CMMG block on my mini-recce; no issues. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:04:31 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By donkeykong: What low pro gas blocks are you guys using under your KAC long FF RAS? I have an inbound Lilja barrel and do not want to pin the gas block. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:12:44 PM EDT
[#8]
For BUIS what are we looking at? KAC only or is Troy ok?
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:17:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
For BUIS what are we looking at? KAC only or is Troy ok? |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:18:25 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes:
Long collar or short collar for the AEM5? And this would be a correct muzzle device for mounting the AEM5 correct? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003402277/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte https://adcofirearms.com/shop/categories/silencers/aemb-mount/ |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:27:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Either collar will work buy you traditionally see the long on the Mk12 platform.
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:50:07 PM EDT
[#12]
I have some recce things here somewhere.
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 3:59:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes:
Long collar or short collar for the AEM5? And this would be a correct muzzle device for mounting the AEM5 correct? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003402277/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 4:36:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cowboy:
I have some recce things here somewhere. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61763/F64853E9-7FE5-4731-82E1-DDC7208D8F95-504986.jpg |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 7:25:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Man I wish I wouldn’t have found this thread. Just put together a MK12 not too long ago now this build has started. Any QD sling mounts that have been seen used?
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Posted: 6/13/2018 7:33:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes:
Man I wish I wouldn’t have found this thread. Just put together a MK12 not too long ago now this build has started. Any QD sling mounts that have been seen used? |
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 7:58:30 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Mainly just seen CQD front with the QD being used in a SOPMOD stock. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 8:16:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes:
Man I wish I wouldn’t have found this thread. Just put together a MK12 not too long ago now this build has started. Any QD sling mounts that have been seen used?
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Posted: 6/13/2018 8:48:41 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: The government issued stocks don't have the qd socket, but I think the KAC qd stock adapter thing has been seen in use. I could be completely wring about that though. CQD front and rear are for sure safe. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 8:53:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheManimal: Tell me about it. A NSW recce is about to sprout from a spare ergo grip in my spare parts bin. If I go 15.1 I’ll be relevant in 3 different recce threads 
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 8:56:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: Do I cut the barrel to 15" or 15.1 to get the can to match up to the rail? Is the .1" gonna make that big of a difference? I’ve seen both mentioned before... http://i65.tinypic.com/oji3ph.jpg |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 9:24:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: I think 15.1" is right, but if you send it to adco , they have done so many at this point all you have to do is tell them what you want to do and they got the rest. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 9:34:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
He's worried about being outcast from his own thread.
15.1 > 16 > 18 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
He needs to go 15.1 but won't listen!
15.1 > 16 > 18  True, but I don't think I can stop the momentum at this point. I'm just not sure how goofy the big NF will look on one of these rigs, and I ain't about to give up that glass.
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 9:40:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: This was my original plan but after the $200 to recontour and thread a barrel plus the original cost of the barrel I’m at the cost of a new Douglas. I was planning on getting a recce barrel from CLE and they said they could cut it to length from the beginning. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 9:44:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: I think 15.1" is right, but if you send it to adco , they have done so many at this point all you have to do is tell them what you want to do and they got the rest. Asked them to do something similar with an AR57 which is a total redheaded stepchild of a rifle, and they did it without issue. ADCO rules. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 9:47:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Cool, glad this thread was created. The RECCE pic thread pretty much just turned into another MK12 clone thread.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2018 10:30:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Cool, glad this thread was created. The RECCE pic thread pretty much just turned into another MK12 clone thread.  this is the thread I’ve wanted all along!That said, my last 2 Recce rifles were not NSW Seal spec. Far from it. I had a Vortex 1-4 and 9” rails on one, Midwest rails and a 3-9x40 on the other..... I’m stoked to be building this one to spec including the can. |
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Posted: 6/13/2018 10:36:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Cool, glad this thread was created. The RECCE pic thread pretty much just turned into another MK12 clone thread. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 6:42:25 AM EDT
[#29]
I have access to two of these scopes for a possible clone build. Anyone have an idea what would be a good price?
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:00:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
I was thinking the opposite... I didn’t like looking in the Recce thread and seeing dickmod/mlok 13” and 15” rails, 1-4s and 3gun rifles this is the thread I’ve wanted all along!That said, my last 2 Recce rifles were not NSW Seal spec. Far from it. I had a Vortex 1-4 and 9” rails on one, Midwest rails and a 3-9x40 on the other..... I’m stoked to be building this one to spec including the can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By GHOS7:
Cool, glad this thread was created. The RECCE pic thread pretty much just turned into another MK12 clone thread. this is the thread I’ve wanted all along!That said, my last 2 Recce rifles were not NSW Seal spec. Far from it. I had a Vortex 1-4 and 9” rails on one, Midwest rails and a 3-9x40 on the other..... I’m stoked to be building this one to spec including the can. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:32:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stoner63a]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
I used a Badger with a WOA barrel on my Mod1 and had a BITCH of a time getting it to fit. I think I'm about to splurge on a 16.1" mid-length Douglas and will likely buy one of their low-pro blocks to match. Otherwise, I used a CMMG block on my mini-recce; no issues. Mk12 Mod1 "Katniss" is getting fat, bitch needs to lose some weight. Didn't help that I have the 3.5-10x40 Illum M3 on the #36S-EX. This may be the A Answer since Op Parts has 15 in stock and I have a C AF upper already. Who is doing hi temp silver solder permanent brakes these days? I don't want the AE brake pinned. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:42:33 AM EDT
[#32]
a recce is nothing but a fudd AR15. throw a hunting optic on a light er rifel with a free efloat barrel. that is a fudd gun.
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:48:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cjwwd2]
[#33]
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:49:13 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/2018-02-26_21-575397.JPG
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:49:19 AM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 10:38:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheManimal:
I'm guilty of 1-4 dickmod tom foolery and non mil-spec shenanigans in the mini-recce and recce style threads. Granted, they are still within the limits of the rules laid out in the original posts. The more I see of @RTUtah and @cjwwd2 mil-spec type builds, the more displeased I become with my non-clone foolishness. I've been wandering around in the dark. For this build/thread, I've finally seen the light. Currently making plans to sell off some non-clone parts and get my 16 inch middy sent off to ADCO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheManimal:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By GHOS7:
Cool, glad this thread was created. The RECCE pic thread pretty much just turned into another MK12 clone thread. this is the thread I’ve wanted all along!That said, my last 2 Recce rifles were not NSW Seal spec. Far from it. I had a Vortex 1-4 and 9” rails on one, Midwest rails and a 3-9x40 on the other..... I’m stoked to be building this one to spec including the can. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 10:58:10 AM EDT
[#37]
Here's my deal: the recce thread is a cool ass thread but you get some wildly different builds. From GWOT inspired builds to modern day "race" guns. They all fit the "recce" concept but from different time periods and "theaters" if you will. In my decade of being in the AR15 game I've been all over the place too with crazy billet uppers and lowers, tried more optics that I care to mention etc. The past few years I've turned into more of a traditionalist in that I appreciate parts from companies with some serious heritage in fighting bad dudes.
I'd personally appreciate a more generic GWOT build thread where you have nothing but various configurations of ass kicking rifles. I've never been a by the book cloner but I enjoy seeing period-eque builds. Quite frankly I get tired of seeing a ton of the same builds over and over again which is why the mysterious recce concept has always been far more interesting. To get back on topic how about something that is ish...? Will remove if asked as I know I've deviated in a few areas. Need to take an updated picture as I've swapped the LT104 for a Badger recon mount and I'm strongly considering swapping the FF RAS for a PRI tube. 
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Posted: 6/14/2018 11:22:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Here's my deal: the recce thread is a cool ass thread but you get some wildly different builds. From GWOT inspired builds to modern day "race" guns. They all fit the "recce" concept but from different time periods and "theaters" if you will. In my decade of being in the AR15 game I've been all over the place too with crazy billet uppers and lowers, tried more optics that I care to mention etc. The past few years I've turned into more of a traditionalist in that I appreciate parts from companies with some serious heritage in fighting bad dudes. I'd personally appreciate a more generic GWOT build thread where you have nothing but various configurations of ass kicking rifles. I've never been a by the book cloner but I enjoy seeing period-eque builds. Quite frankly I get tired of seeing a ton of the same builds over and over again which is why the mysterious recce concept has always been far more interesting. To get back on topic how about something that is ish...? Will remove if asked as I know I've deviated in a few areas. Need to take an updated picture as I've swapped the LT104 for a Badger recon mount and I'm strongly considering swapping the FF RAS for a PRI tube. https://i.imgur.com/tRg755C.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VRpvDC7.jpg |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 1:41:52 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Here's my deal: the recce thread is a cool ass thread but you get some wildly different builds. From GWOT inspired builds to modern day "race" guns. They all fit the "recce" concept but from different time periods and "theaters" if you will. In my decade of being in the AR15 game I've been all over the place too with crazy billet uppers and lowers, tried more optics that I care to mention etc. The past few years I've turned into more of a traditionalist in that I appreciate parts from companies with some serious heritage in fighting bad dudes. I'd personally appreciate a more generic GWOT build thread where you have nothing but various configurations of ass kicking rifles. I've never been a by the book cloner but I enjoy seeing period-eque builds. Quite frankly I get tired of seeing a ton of the same builds over and over again which is why the mysterious recce concept has always been far more interesting. To get back on topic how about something that is ish...? Will remove if asked as I know I've deviated in a few areas. Need to take an updated picture as I've swapped the LT104 for a Badger recon mount and I'm strongly considering swapping the FF RAS for a PRI tube. https://i.imgur.com/tRg755C.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VRpvDC7.jpg Also haven’t decided how I feel about $400 for KAC BUIS
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Posted: 6/14/2018 1:46:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave: Agreed. Different builds are indeed cool, I just tend to prefer the more mil-spec traditional guns. Anything based on the MK-12 is going to be sexy. I’ve never been a hardcore cloner but for this build I want it done right. Only thing I don’t plan on is the NF 2.5-10 because I just can’t do $1800 for a scope. Maybe some day but not now. I can get into a Leupy for 40-45% the cost, do the same thing, weigh less and get my build on the range long before I can save $1800+ shipping/tax and $$ for a mount..... Also haven’t decided how I feel about $400 for KAC BUIS |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 1:50:15 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Here's my deal: the recce thread is a cool ass thread but you get some wildly different builds. From GWOT inspired builds to modern day "race" guns. They all fit the "recce" concept but from different time periods and "theaters" if you will. In my decade of being in the AR15 game I've been all over the place too with crazy billet uppers and lowers, tried more optics that I care to mention etc. The past few years I've turned into more of a traditionalist in that I appreciate parts from companies with some serious heritage in fighting bad dudes. I'd personally appreciate a more generic GWOT build thread where you have nothing but various configurations of ass kicking rifles. I've never been a by the book cloner but I enjoy seeing period-eque builds. Quite frankly I get tired of seeing a ton of the same builds over and over again which is why the mysterious recce concept has always been far more interesting. To get back on topic how about something that is ish...? Will remove if asked as I know I've deviated in a few areas. Need to take an updated picture as I've swapped the LT104 for a Badger recon mount and I'm strongly considering swapping the FF RAS for a PRI tube. https://i.imgur.com/tRg755C.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VRpvDC7.jpg |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 2:17:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave: Agreed. Different builds are indeed cool, I just tend to prefer the more mil-spec traditional guns. Anything based on the MK-12 is going to be sexy. I’ve never been a hardcore cloner but for this build I want it done right. Only thing I don’t plan on is the NF 2.5-10 because I just can’t do $1800 for a scope. Maybe some day but not now. I can get into a Leupy for 40-45% the cost, do the same thing, weigh less and get my build on the range long before I can save $1800+ shipping/tax and $$ for a mount..... Also haven’t decided how I feel about $400 for KAC BUIS In the NF 2.5-10 family I'm a HUGE fan of my x42 above. Very generous and forgiving to be behind without adding much weight/length over the x32. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 3:24:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
The EE is your friend for optics. Save you quite a few bucks and minimize any losses should you not like it. Optics is also an area where I'm not afraid to deviate from the clone correct provided they are in the same "family". In the NF 2.5-10 family I'm a HUGE fan of my x42 above. Very generous and forgiving to be behind without adding much weight/length over the x32. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave: Agreed. Different builds are indeed cool, I just tend to prefer the more mil-spec traditional guns. Anything based on the MK-12 is going to be sexy. I’ve never been a hardcore cloner but for this build I want it done right. Only thing I don’t plan on is the NF 2.5-10 because I just can’t do $1800 for a scope. Maybe some day but not now. I can get into a Leupy for 40-45% the cost, do the same thing, weigh less and get my build on the range long before I can save $1800+ shipping/tax and $$ for a mount..... Also haven’t decided how I feel about $400 for KAC BUIS In the NF 2.5-10 family I'm a HUGE fan of my x42 above. Very generous and forgiving to be behind without adding much weight/length over the x32. Maybe when I’m ready to buy the glass I’ll post a WTB ad and see what happens. Right now I gotta get the form 1 filed, KAC rails and Colt upper ordered before they disappear. Then I’ll be saving for glass. Now, if my house sells this summer as we plan on it, I will most likely splurge a bit and go for the NF 2.5-10 compact that I want.... |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 3:35:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave: Agreed on the EE. I’m a longtime EEer and most if not all my optics have come from there. I just haven’t seen the 2.5-10 NF or MK4 illuminated for a great price. Maybe when I’m ready to buy the glass I’ll post a WTB ad and see what happens. Right now I gotta get the form 1 filed, KAC rails and Colt upper ordered before they disappear. Then I’ll be saving for glass. Now, if my house sells this summer as we plan on it, I will most likely splurge a bit and go for the NF 2.5-10 compact that I want.... |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
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Posted: 6/14/2018 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: What MRDS mount is that? Have you tried to replace the top NF cap with it? |
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USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 5:04:32 PM EDT
[#47]
UID labels came in, I think this is pretty much wrapped up for now until I can get a atpial-c and the aem5. Got some saving to do first
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 5:29:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GuynamedDave]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
I paid $950 for my 2.5-10x32 and $1150 for my 2.5-10x24. $1800 is brand new price and I will never pay that. As for the KAC Buis the same thing never paid more than $250 for the set. Best part of cloning is the hunt for the part's, it took me over a year to build my MK12 and I'm still not done (AEM5 any day now). Take your time and look, but don't sell yourself short on the NF from price. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave: Agreed on the EE. I’m a longtime EEer and most if not all my optics have come from there. I just haven’t seen the 2.5-10 NF or MK4 illuminated for a great price. Maybe when I’m ready to buy the glass I’ll post a WTB ad and see what happens. Right now I gotta get the form 1 filed, KAC rails and Colt upper ordered before they disappear. Then I’ll be saving for glass. Now, if my house sells this summer as we plan on it, I will most likely splurge a bit and go for the NF 2.5-10 compact that I want.... For $1150 I would be very interested in the NF... Another note I wanted to add: my best friend and I are on a trust together. He owns an AEM5 for his Mod 0, as such I have access to it. So after I get my upper assembled and glassed, I can take it out without the AEM5 while my own AEM5 is in jail! Pic of Mod 0 (I painted it, Duracoat) 
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Posted: 6/14/2018 5:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave: Thanks for the info and insight. In your opinion (and others here) is the NF 2.5-10x24 (compact?) worth the premium over the Leupold MRT 2.5-8? For $1150 I would be very interested in the NF... Another note I wanted to add: my best friend and I are on a trust together. He owns an AEM5 for his Mod 0, as such I have access to it. So after I get my upper assembled and glassed, I can take it out without the AEM5 while my own AEM5 is in jail! Pic of Mod 0 (I painted it, Duracoat) https://i.imgur.com/u3ByAUT.jpg |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 5:43:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Insight MRDS mount, as seen on one of Dom Raso's rig's. Kinda hard to find just like the Wilcox mount. |
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