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Originally Posted By BC26: What's the correct reticle style for the RMR mounted on top of the LPVO? Is it 1.0, 3.25 or 6.5 MOA? I'm also seeing that the 3.25 version is offered in coyote brown. What's more correct for the RMR the coyote or FDE offering? View Quote The contract RMR is the HRS with 3.25 dot. It is a tanodized coyote. |
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Originally Posted By AZ_SBR: The future is taller. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52840916186_7689f7c00d_c.jpg View Quote Unity mounts are whack. |
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy: https://i.imgur.com/6bToYgs.jpg View Quote damn that's ridiculous lol no offense |
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Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: The contract RMR is the HRS with 3.25 dot. It is a tanodized coyote. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Originally Posted By BC26: What's the correct reticle style for the RMR mounted on top of the LPVO? Is it 1.0, 3.25 or 6.5 MOA? I'm also seeing that the 3.25 version is offered in coyote brown. What's more correct for the RMR the coyote or FDE offering? The contract RMR is the HRS with 3.25 dot. It is a tanodized coyote. Is this it? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/rm06-c-700780 SKU: RM06-C-700780 |
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Originally Posted By BC26: Is this it? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/rm06-c-700780 SKU: RM06-C-700780 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BC26: Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Originally Posted By BC26: What's the correct reticle style for the RMR mounted on top of the LPVO? Is it 1.0, 3.25 or 6.5 MOA? I'm also seeing that the 3.25 version is offered in coyote brown. What's more correct for the RMR the coyote or FDE offering? The contract RMR is the HRS with 3.25 dot. It is a tanodized coyote. Is this it? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/rm06-c-700780 SKU: RM06-C-700780 Yeah, probably as close as you will find. Some overruns were sold a few years ago with the NSN # on the top. Midway link |
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What's the preferred method of mounting the RMR?
https://reptiliacorp.com/product/rof-45-for-trijicon-rmr/ -vs- https://reptiliacorp.com/product/trijicon-rmr-rof-sar/ or even an option that offset mounts on the top picatinny rail under the LPVO? Like this: https://arisakadefense.com/offset-optic-mount-combo/ |
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All depends, night vision or no night vision, if your considering night vision I will recommend top front ring not a 45, if not 45 offset on rail, I will take a look at the 45 offset from TRex arms, better position and all you have to do is rotate and you are there.
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I'm working on a comprehensive list of military rifle weights.
Does anyone know the correct weight for a URG-I as the base rifle? Ie a FN M4A1 is 6.36lbs, HK 416A5 14.5" is 7.69lbs, a URG-I M4 is? |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm working on a comprehensive list of military rifle weights. Does anyone know the correct weight for a URG-I as the base rifle? Ie a FN M4A1 is 6.36lbs, HK 416A5 14.5" is 7.69lbs, a URG-I M4 is? View Quote When you mean base you're asking with no peripherals (optic, magazine, suppressor, etc.) Just the upper and lower pieced together? ETA: Quick hit on my phone. I can get a ballpark weight for you tomorrow on a 10.5... Not sure you'll get an "exact" weight as there may be outliers from certain people but if you wanted a true mean you could get numbers from ~10 of us and average the weights. |
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Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Weights are listed in the OP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm working on a comprehensive list of military rifle weights. Does anyone know the correct weight for a URG-I as the base rifle? Ie a FN M4A1 is 6.36lbs, HK 416A5 14.5" is 7.69lbs, a URG-I M4 is? Weights are listed in the OP. Thank you. Alas, just the upper weight is provided, not the URG-I on a standard M4 lower. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Thank you. Alas, just the upper weight is provided, not the URG-I on a standard M4 lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm working on a comprehensive list of military rifle weights. Does anyone know the correct weight for a URG-I as the base rifle? Ie a FN M4A1 is 6.36lbs, HK 416A5 14.5" is 7.69lbs, a URG-I M4 is? Weights are listed in the OP. Thank you. Alas, just the upper weight is provided, not the URG-I on a standard M4 lower. The M4A1 LRG with Type II-B stock is 1.86 lbs. |
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Originally Posted By india13c: Since I know it's come up in the past about the ROMEO8T, I figured I'd post up the photos I've been able to source of them in one post. https://i.imgur.com/O4GOp9W.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wEnEG73.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xU5yIvV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ICIbUEm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cnIiXXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJ97yBL.jpg View Quote Is that a breaching charge? |
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Originally Posted By titom110: All depends, night vision or no night vision, if your considering night vision I will recommend top front ring not a 45, if not 45 offset on rail, I will take a look at the 45 offset from TRex arms, better position and all you have to do is rotate and you are there. View Quote Arisaka is better for 45 if you want to try to passive aim, it’s higher and has a 1.93 option. |
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Originally Posted By BC26: What's the preferred method of mounting the RMR? https://reptiliacorp.com/product/rof-45-for-trijicon-rmr/ -vs- https://reptiliacorp.com/product/trijicon-rmr-rof-sar/ or even an option that offset mounts on the top picatinny rail under the LPVO? Like this: https://arisakadefense.com/offset-optic-mount-combo/ View Quote Arisaka mounts are being used by guys with rmr and t2 as well as holosun stuff. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: The M4A1 LRG with Type II-B stock is 1.86 lbs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm working on a comprehensive list of military rifle weights. Does anyone know the correct weight for a URG-I as the base rifle? Ie a FN M4A1 is 6.36lbs, HK 416A5 14.5" is 7.69lbs, a URG-I M4 is? Weights are listed in the OP. Thank you. Alas, just the upper weight is provided, not the URG-I on a standard M4 lower. The M4A1 LRG with Type II-B stock is 1.86 lbs. Wonderful, thank you. URG-I 4.1875lb + M4A1 LRG Type II-B Stock 1.86lb ---> URG-I 14.5" = 6.05lbs Does that sound right to everyone, a bit lighter than a standard M4A1? Or does the listed URG-I mass on page 1 not include the BCG as part of the 4lb 3oz weight? |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Wonderful, thank you. URG-I 4.1875lb + M4A1 LRG Type II-B Stock 1.86lb ---> URG-I 14.5" = 6.05lbs Does that sound right to everyone, a bit lighter than a standard M4A1? Or does the listed URG-I mass on page 1 not include the BCG as part of the 4lb 3oz weight? View Quote Should be right. Lighter barrel on the URG-I, no FSB, no BUIS. |
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I’m seeing a lot of Romeo8Ts for optics on some of these platforms…
I know it’s all preference but has anyone moved over to these and can attest whether or not this would be a go over an EXPS-3 or T2? I’m on a personal debate on whether or not to pick one up or another one of the Eotech/AimPoint. |
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Originally Posted By doolz: I’m seeing a lot of Romeo8Ts for optics on some of these platforms… I know it’s all preference but has anyone moved over to these and can attest whether or not this would be a go over an EXPS-3 or T2? I’m on a personal debate on whether or not to pick one up or another one of the Eotech/AimPoint. View Quote It's on my option list as well. Not sure about the "bulkiness" though. I just watched SuperSetCA's review on it. Sig Sauer Romeo 8T Juliet 4X Magnifier Review - An American Tank of an Optic |
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I'm running the 8T over the Eotech because of better battery life and MOTAC.
Originally Posted By doolz: I’m seeing a lot of Romeo8Ts for optics on some of these platforms… I know it’s all preference but has anyone moved over to these and can attest whether or not this would be a go over an EXPS-3 or T2? I’m on a personal debate on whether or not to pick one up or another one of the Eotech/AimPoint. View Quote |
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Another review discussing the 8t.
SIG-Sauer Romeo 4T and 8T Review |
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Originally Posted By doolz: If you had to take an EXPS-3 or 8T to the gates of Mordor (LOTR reference, I hope you get it), and back, which would you take? ETA: Holographic versus red dot correct? View Quote I just had an EXPS3 go down. The internal reflective (dichroic) glass separated from the body. Eotech fixed it, and got it back to me in around a week. Pretty sure I’d take my elcan to the gates 👁 |
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Originally Posted By BC26: I'm leaning towards the Arisaka offset mount right now. I think the Reptilia ROF-45 option is sexy but I'm a little concerned with the height over bore. I won't be using NODs. It also seems like the Arisaka mount just seems to place the RMR is a more readily accessible position when you rotate the weapon and maintain cheek weld. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-7lpxer6ykh/images/stencil/2048x2048/products/1030/6102/Arisaka-20__22429.1604939958.jpg?c=2 https://reptiliacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/100-004-ROF45-RMR-1000x1000-_4.jpg Whoa, I just discovered the Rukh mount from Valhalla Tactical... https://www.valhallatactical.com/rukh-adjustable-offset-mount/ View Quote I'm running a badger 1.54 COMM mount for my ATACR and was disappointed with Badgers integral 45 mounts due to where they mount, height and angle, etc. Especially coming from normally running 12 o clock backup RDS. I bought the Arisaka and like it a lot. I mounted it all the way back in the 35* configuration with the taller RMR mount and it is perfect in terms of height, FOV, and transitioning and picking up the dot fast. |
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Originally Posted By Super_Trouper: I'm running a badger 1.54 COMM mount for my ATACR and was disappointed with Badgers integral 45 mounts due to where they mount, height and angle, etc. Especially coming from normally running 12 o clock backup RDS. I bought the Arisaka and like it a lot. I mounted it all the way back in the 35* configuration with the taller RMR mount and it is perfect in terms of height, FOV, and transitioning and picking up the dot fast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Super_Trouper: Originally Posted By BC26: I'm leaning towards the Arisaka offset mount right now. I think the Reptilia ROF-45 option is sexy but I'm a little concerned with the height over bore. I won't be using NODs. It also seems like the Arisaka mount just seems to place the RMR is a more readily accessible position when you rotate the weapon and maintain cheek weld. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-7lpxer6ykh/images/stencil/2048x2048/products/1030/6102/Arisaka-20__22429.1604939958.jpg?c=2 https://reptiliacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/100-004-ROF45-RMR-1000x1000-_4.jpg Whoa, I just discovered the Rukh mount from Valhalla Tactical... https://www.valhallatactical.com/rukh-adjustable-offset-mount/ I'm running a badger 1.54 COMM mount for my ATACR and was disappointed with Badgers integral 45 mounts due to where they mount, height and angle, etc. Especially coming from normally running 12 o clock backup RDS. I bought the Arisaka and like it a lot. I mounted it all the way back in the 35* configuration with the taller RMR mount and it is perfect in terms of height, FOV, and transitioning and picking up the dot fast. That's great feedback. I'm running a Vortex Razor HD Gen II-E 1-6 in a Geissele Super Precision mount. I'm considering ditching my BUIS in order to mount the Arisaka underneath the ocular lens on the top picatinny rail of the upper receiver. I'm not sure how I'd feel about mounting the RMR on the handguard section of pic rail due to accuracy / zero concerns. |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: Another review discussing the 8t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAEJmLZ3m-A View Quote I don’t care about that lesbian’s videos |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: It's on my option list as well. Not sure about the "bulkiness" though. I just watched SuperSetCA's review on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3aXilt2HQ View Quote I had a chance to handle the 8T today. Only got about one mag through it but it was enough for me to convince myself that I'll stick with an EXPS... I wanted to like the 8T and I had a hype up before getting to shoot it that kind of put me down a bit after I went through the magazine. First, it's fucking huge. Not just in size but in weight. You can definitely feel the weight difference on a light build even without a magnifier. Second, the reticle selection is kind of redundant to me (personally). I'm old school. I like to turn the optic on, have one reticle the I'm trained on throughout. Once I started switching the reticles I turned into the "meh" mentality. Third, I still think there's some significance between holographic vs red dot. If the 8T glass goes down, the reticle is done. I've tortured two EOTECHs in my life and completely demolished the glass and the reticle is still there. The 8T was fun to use and the customizable options for reticles is certainly nice but I'm just an old fashioned EOTECH guy until [for now]. ETA: I mean..... HUGE. Makes the Vortex Huey look like a mini house compared to a big house. |
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Originally Posted By doolz: I had a chance to handle the 8T today. Only got about one mag through it but it was enough for me to convince myself that I'll stick with an EXPS... I wanted to like the 8T and I had a hype up before getting to shoot it that kind of put me down a bit after I went through the magazine. First, it's fucking huge. Not just in size but in weight. You can definitely feel the weight difference on a light build even without a magnifier. Second, the reticle selection is kind of redundant to me (personally). I'm old school. I like to turn the optic on, have one reticle the I'm trained on throughout. Once I started switching the reticles I turned into the "meh" mentality. Third, I still think there's some significance between holographic vs red dot. If the 8T glass goes down, the reticle is done. I've tortured two EOTECHs in my life and completely demolished the glass and the reticle is still there. The 8T was fun to use and the customizable options for reticles is certainly nice but I'm just an old fashioned EOTECH guy until [for now]. ETA: I mean..... HUGE. Makes the Vortex Huey look like a mini house compared to a big house. View Quote Thanks for the report. I think I'll scratch it off my list. |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: Thanks for the report. I think I'll scratch it off my list. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By doolz: I had a chance to handle the 8T today. Only got about one mag through it but it was enough for me to convince myself that I'll stick with an EXPS... I wanted to like the 8T and I had a hype up before getting to shoot it that kind of put me down a bit after I went through the magazine. First, it's fucking huge. Not just in size but in weight. You can definitely feel the weight difference on a light build even without a magnifier. Second, the reticle selection is kind of redundant to me (personally). I'm old school. I like to turn the optic on, have one reticle the I'm trained on throughout. Once I started switching the reticles I turned into the "meh" mentality. Third, I still think there's some significance between holographic vs red dot. If the 8T glass goes down, the reticle is done. I've tortured two EOTECHs in my life and completely demolished the glass and the reticle is still there. The 8T was fun to use and the customizable options for reticles is certainly nice but I'm just an old fashioned EOTECH guy until [for now]. ETA: I mean..... HUGE. Makes the Vortex Huey look like a mini house compared to a big house. Thanks for the report. I think I'll scratch it off my list. I don’t think I agree with the above assessment. The 8T is less than 2.5 oz heavier, and it’s not even any bigger. It’s like the RMR vs ACRO. It only LOOKS bigger because it’s box shaped. I own both. The reticle comment also puzzles me because you can just pick your reticle and leave it forever. You don't have to cycle through anything if you don't want to. Anything can fail, and the eotechs failures aren’t winning it any points over the 8t in my opinion. 1000 hr battery vs up to 100,000 alone on the same exact battery. I’ll take that over the supposed benefits of holo vs led. EDIT: Here you go on dimensions and weight: ROMEO8T EXPS3 L 90.9 mm 96.5 mm W 56.13 mm 58.4 mm H 64.5 mm 73.7 mm Weight 13.7 oz 11.2 oz |
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Originally Posted By india13c: I don’t think I agree with the above assessment. The 8T is less than 2.5 oz heavier, and it’s not even any bigger. It’s like the RMR vs ACRO. It only LOOKS bigger because it’s box shaped. I own both. The reticle comment also puzzles me because you can just pick your reticle and leave it forever. You don't have to cycle through anything if you don't want to. Anything can fail, and the eotechs failures aren’t winning it any points over the 8t in my opinion. 1000 hr battery vs up to 100,000 alone on the same exact battery. I’ll take that over the supposed benefits of holo vs led. View Quote Again, personal preference... Handling the 8T versus the EXPS-3 is a big difference, especially when you're build is weight and ergonomics specific. As for the reticle, it was funky switching through to find a proper reticle after using something singular for so long. I would love to see a true durability test between the two as I can't find a good one of the 8T. I've destroyed three EOTECHs in my career and customer support along with the durability is also a plus for the EOTECH for me. |
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Originally Posted By doolz: Again, personal preference... Handling the 8T versus the EXPS-3 is a big difference, especially when you're build is weight and ergonomics specific. As for the reticle, it was funky switching through to find a proper reticle after using something singular for so long. I would love to see a true durability test between the two as I can't find a good one of the 8T. I've destroyed three EOTECHs in my career and customer support along with the durability is also a plus for the EOTECH for me. View Quote I understand where you're coming from, just helping to point out it's not actually physically any bigger. You are correct about weight though. Especially when an Aimpoint T2 is all of 3 oz without a mount. I can't speak for Eotech CS as I've never had to use it, but I did have to use Sig CS on a different dot and they were no questions asked, sent it back on their prepaid label and had a replacement in two weeks (that includes shipping time). So at least they seem to be comparable as far as my sample of one CS experience goes. |
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Originally Posted By india13c: I understand where you're coming from, just helping to point out it's not actually physically any bigger. You are correct about weight though. Especially when an Aimpoint T2 is all of 3 oz without a mount. I can't speak for Eotech CS as I've never had to use it, but I did have to use Sig CS on a different dot and they were no questions asked, sent it back on their prepaid label and had a replacement in two weeks (that includes shipping time). So at least they seem to be comparable as far as my sample of one CS experience goes. View Quote SIG's CS (from my experience also) has been stellar. I haven't had to send my MCX or MPX back to them but I've been hearing there's been some trouble on that end of their CS spectrum only... I would say that that is definitely one of SIG's selling points is their CS. I forgot to mention above that I'm uncertain on the American authenticity of SIG optics. Thats also a selling point for me. |
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Originally Posted By doolz: I'm seeing a lot of Romeo8Ts for optics on some of these platforms I know it's all preference but has anyone moved over to these and can attest whether or not this would be a go over an EXPS-3 or T2? I'm on a personal debate on whether or not to pick one up or another one of the Eotech/AimPoint. View Quote 8T Geissele Romeo 8t by Solo__, on Flickr Theoretically URG-i (ish:10.3") by Solo__, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: I have the 8T as well and love it; it has a different "reticle" thing which I find useful to use. I still also have plenty of Eotechs and I wouldn't know which one to choose over what - so I run both on different uppers 8T https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52339758450_07f630f366_h.jpgGeissele Romeo 8t by Solo__, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52374958833_508bf28a4b_h.jpgTheoretically URG-i (ish:10.3") by Solo__, on Flickr View Quote I'm not going to lie.... In some cases it does have some nice eye candy to it and aesthetically, that's gorgeous. I'll have another chance to run my friend's 8T this weekend and see if I can get a second wind for her. |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: You guys are kill'n me. I guess I just need to handle one in person. View Quote For real. I already built a loose clone of the FBI HRT rifle. This thread has me wanting another upper that basically does the same thing as what I have. I’m with you on wanting to handle one, I wanna see how the rail feels in the hand, but it looks comfy enough I may say screw it and just go for it. |
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: For real. I already built a loose clone of the FBI HRT rifle. This thread has me wanting another upper that basically does the same thing as what I have. I’m with you on wanting to handle one, I wanna see how the rail feels in the hand, but it looks comfy enough I may say screw it and just go for it. View Quote ETA: found the link for that forum. Disregard |
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View Quote No worries, that first sentence is definitely misleading. Serious question though, are the main differences between the MK18 Block 1 and the 11.5” URGI just the longer barrel and Geissele rail? The sights, lights, etc all the same otherwise? |
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: No worries, that first sentence is definitely misleading. Serious question though, are the main differences between the MK18 Block 1 and the 11.5" URGI just the longer barrel and Geissele rail? The sights, lights, etc all the same otherwise? View Quote |
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