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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2021 5:54:35 PM EDT
[#1]
While the 10.3" urgi was never issued, were any originally put through a trail program in small quantities before they decided to go with the 11.5"? I'd assumed that Geissele didn't just create these for the commercial market since they launched concurrently to the 14.5" so figure these saw at least some limited use. Can anyone confirm or deny this either way?
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Posted: 3/4/2021 6:06:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By henryfrank: While the 10.3" urgi was never issued, were any originally put through a trail program in small quantities before they decided to go with the 11.5"? I'd assumed that Geissele didn't just create these for the commercial market since they launched concurrently to the 14.5" so figure these saw at least some limited use. Can anyone confirm or deny this either way? I would presume that Crane bought a small quantity of 9.3" MK16s from Geissele which is why they made that length in the first place. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2021 6:20:08 PM EDT
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Yeah. I would have guessed that they filled some small sample orders with DD barrels for 10.3" in limited numbers since Geissele offered them as clone and near clone offerings too, but I don't have anything to back that up. Either that or maybe some units purchased them. Keep hoping to clear that up definitively one way or another with a pic or word from Geissele that nobody ever bought them this way, but nothing so far. Just seems odd the way they were first offered and marketed if nobody ever ordered them even in small quantities.
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USA
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Posted: 3/5/2021 9:31:04 PM EDT
[#4]
PSA - DDC 13.5 blems on Geissele’s site for anyone who needs one. Wish I could grab one.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2021 10:30:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Howler4]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rcfallen: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50968914246_107826a808_b.jpg What's on your sling slider there? |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 1:06:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By india13c: PSA - DDC 13.5 blems on Geissele’s site for anyone who needs one. Wish I could grab one. My dude, do you ever wear a cape? You could if you wanted to. It's not required, but you could. I've been slacking about checking the website, much less the blems. Nothing I want is ever in stock. One thing I wanted can be backordered, which I did, and got it, and its the coolest thing I've ever got for myself. (It really is just the most exquisite piece of both engineering and craftsmanship I've ever held in my hands) Everything else I want is just always "out of stock". Most of the time the stuff on the blems page is stuff I'm just like "lol, what agency ordered a run of THAT for your techs to fuck up in the first place? Is that really a blem or just engineer parts, lolz lolz lolz" A 13.5 MK16 DDC on the blem page for $260? *click click click click click click click click click Order number 10002322XX Now I just need Bill to put whoever did this oopsie in charge of the next batch of DDC colored D&H mags. 
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Posted: 3/6/2021 4:55:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
[#7]
I have an upper with a Geissele Super Modular MK14 M-Lok 13" Rail. If I buy a Geissele Automatics MK16 13.5" Super Modular Rail with M-LOK - DDC, can I just unscrew the bolts and swap the rails without changing out the barrel nut? Meaning, do they both use the same barrel nut and are the bolts interchangeable?
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Posted: 3/6/2021 6:58:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigstick61]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: The issued 1-8 doesn’t have the same reticle, it has a BDC that can be used for 5.56 and 7.62 with different zeroing points for each. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: Originally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Same here. That ATACR in FDE looks sexy as hell. I hope they sell it. I hope my credit card can handle it. The issued 1-8 doesn’t have the same reticle, it has a BDC that can be used for 5.56 and 7.62 with different zeroing points for each. What does the contract reticle look like? Are there images of it out there? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2021 8:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: What does the contract reticle look like? Are there images of it out there? It’s got the thick black crosshairs and a smaller dot on 1x then 8x is a horse shoe the center dot is meant for 25/300m Then it goes into stadia lines like an acog for 400, 500, 600 but then after that it’s mils. Top of the horse shoe has a tiny crosshair for 100m 5.56 and then their is another little crosshair for 7.62 at 100. In the booklet it has the zero marks for different distances and different calibers. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/6/2021 8:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: I have an upper with a Geissele Super Modular MK14 M-Lok 13" Rail. If I buy a Geissele Automatics MK16 13.5" Super Modular Rail with M-LOK - DDC, can I just unscrew the bolts and swap the rails without changing out the barrel nut? Meaning, do they both use the same barrel nut and are the bolts interchangeable? Yes |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 1:59:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tactical_dude]
[#11]
Maybe this will fit a little better here than the MK18...
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Posted: 3/6/2021 11:09:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imdBman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwhited: Was going for a clone of this rifle: https://i.postimg.cc/vBtf7WzH/20210306-115243.jpg What's not exact: KAC QD mount on stock, M4A1 ambi safety, Magpul grip, SF bezel cover and no MK18 engraving on magwell. Pics! https://i.postimg.cc/Gmj45cDq/20210306-113431.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/htnJsJXX/20210306-113507.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/GhG8vPm0/20210306-113440.jpg That is really nice but I think you have your forums confused. That would be the Mk18 thread. https://i.postimg.cc/5tNXcZq1/20210306-113520.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/kMVtgPrg/20210306-113615.jpg That is really nice but I think you have your forum topics confused. That belongs in the Mk18 Thread. ETA: Nice Save! |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 5:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: It’s got the thick black crosshairs and a smaller dot on 1x then 8x is a horse shoe the center dot is meant for 25/300m Then it goes into stadia lines like an acog for 400, 500, 600 but then after that it’s mils. Top of the horse shoe has a tiny crosshair for 100m 5.56 and then their is another little crosshair for 7.62 at 100. In the booklet it has the zero marks for different distances and different calibers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: Originally Posted By bigstick61: What does the contract reticle look like? Are there images of it out there? It’s got the thick black crosshairs and a smaller dot on 1x then 8x is a horse shoe the center dot is meant for 25/300m Then it goes into stadia lines like an acog for 400, 500, 600 but then after that it’s mils. Top of the horse shoe has a tiny crosshair for 100m 5.56 and then their is another little crosshair for 7.62 at 100. In the booklet it has the zero marks for different distances and different calibers. Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:44:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By TBone556: Originally Posted By bigstick61: What does the contract reticle look like? Are there images of it out there? It's got the thick black crosshairs and a smaller dot on 1x then 8x is a horse shoe the center dot is meant for 25/300m Then it goes into stadia lines like an acog for 400, 500, 600 but then after that it's mils. Top of the horse shoe has a tiny crosshair for 100m 5.56 and then their is another little crosshair for 7.62 at 100. In the booklet it has the zero marks for different distances and different calibers. Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? Was just talking with Euro Optic the other day about this again - they said they've tried, but Nightforce won't do it. Doesn't mean it'll never happen, but if it ever does, it certainly won't be anytime soon. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 7:31:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? Nightforce currently has a 36-week backorder for civilian ATACR 1-8's via the Mil/LE purchase program. The FDE/BDC ATACR won't be in civilian hands for a long time, I'd wager. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2021 10:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By TBone556: Originally Posted By bigstick61: What does the contract reticle look like? Are there images of it out there? It's got the thick black crosshairs and a smaller dot on 1x then 8x is a horse shoe the center dot is meant for 25/300m Then it goes into stadia lines like an acog for 400, 500, 600 but then after that it's mils. Top of the horse shoe has a tiny crosshair for 100m 5.56 and then their is another little crosshair for 7.62 at 100. In the booklet it has the zero marks for different distances and different calibers. Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be available on the civilian market. For what specific 5.56mm and 7.62mm cartridges are the BDC and zero marks? |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 6:49:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Geissele MK16 blem rail showed up today that i ordered on friday. The only blem I see is a shadow line on both sides I marked them on the pic’s.
Overall good deal for $271 shipped.  Attached File Attached FileCompared to a 2019 Clone upper looks a little lighter.  Attached File |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2021 7:59:20 PM EDT
[#18]
several variations of the MK16 are in stock right now on the geissele website. I just ordered a 13.5" mk16 in black
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Posted: 3/9/2021 10:05:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evil_evo: several variations of the MK16 are in stock right now on the geissele website. I just ordered a 13.5" mk16 in black You spelled DDC wrong. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2021 10:23:48 PM EDT
[#20]
yes i meant DDC
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2021 10:31:53 PM EDT
[#21]
50 shades of DDC
  
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Posted: 3/9/2021 11:55:02 PM EDT
[#22]
I'll take #11, please
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:00:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2021 2:20:51 AM EDT
[#24]
Currently any place to grab a reasonably priced URG-I these days besides trying to snipe one from EE or GAFS?
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Posted: 3/10/2021 4:34:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apocalypserisin: Currently any place to grab a reasonably priced URG-I these days besides trying to snipe one from EE or GAFS? Best bet these days is buy a mk16 and build one. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 2:52:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Best bet these days is buy a mk16 and build one. That's the route I'm taking. Just need to find an ACH and a 4 prong |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 5:06:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phlegm: https://cdn.dvidshub.net/media/thumbs/photos/2012/6459376/1000w_q95.jpg https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6459376/special-forces-tactical-challenge-2020 So, obviously, one could cerakote a commercial ATACR 1-8 to closely resemble a .mil contract version... What about retaining the white text, numbers, and hash marks, on the magnification ring and on the illumination dial? Is that pretty much impossible once you coat the whole thing? Or is the only real option to just coat around those markings to retain them? |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 6:19:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: So, obviously, one could cerakote a commercial ATACR 1-8 to closely resemble a .mil contract version... What about retaining the white text, numbers, and hash marks, on the magnification ring and on the illumination dial? Is that pretty much impossible once you coat the whole thing? Or is the only real option to just coat around those markings to retain them? 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:34:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Best bet these days is buy a mk16 and build one. Good thing the blems came back in stock. Just grabbed one and guess I'll piece one together bit by bit over time. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:42:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: IMO, it's not going to be remotely close and you'd be better off keeping it black as those are still correct. Your gonna be able to tell from a mile away... kinda like cerakote 416s I know of a guy that already did this. Ill see if I can find pics. Didn't turn out too bad but if you know what you are looking for it's easy to notice as fake. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: I know of a guy that already did this. Ill see if I can find pics. Didn't turn out too bad but if you know what you are looking for it's easy to notice as fake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Originally Posted By LsuJon: IMO, it's not going to be remotely close and you'd be better off keeping it black as those are still correct. Your gonna be able to tell from a mile away... kinda like cerakote 416s I know of a guy that already did this. Ill see if I can find pics. Didn't turn out too bad but if you know what you are looking for it's easy to notice as fake. If I do it, I'd be realistic about it, but I'd love to see a pic of that if you can find it. |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 5:31:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By blindrocket:
Colt full auto ambis in stock https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/ambidextrous-safety-selelctor-lever-full-auto-sku160000397-70968-146421.aspx |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 10:33:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: Geissele MK16 blem rail showed up today that i ordered on friday. The only blem I see is a shadow line on both sides I marked them on the pic’s. Overall good deal for $271 shipped. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/59424CD1-2502-414F-929C-A034CF444035_jpe-1859000.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/ADE716E9-E7CA-4E2D-B7AA-434CFC52DDBE_jpe-1859001.JPG Compared to a 2019 Clone upper looks a little lighter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/9600394C-7F4F-4E59-98EB-E57F2F5AAD74_jpe-1859003.JPG Got one of the blems and it has the same shadow lines. Mine's a little darker in color though, about the same as the URG-I's rail I have. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2021 12:40:57 PM EDT
[#34]
What’s going to piss off the clone nerds more in here:
A. Not DD 14.5in barrel. B a 16in barrel instead of 14.5in. C I’m getting a buddy to cerakote a black mk16 to look DDC. D I’m using a warcomp instead of a 4 prong. E all of the above. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 12:50:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: What's going to piss off the clone nerds more in here: A. Not DD 14.5in barrel. B a 16in barrel instead of 14.5in. C I'm getting a buddy to cerakote a black mk16 to look DDC. D I'm using a warcomp instead of a 4 prong. E all of the above. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/14/2021 1:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Then why post in here? Theirs another thread for a reason This. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2021 1:37:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Then why post in here? There's another thread for a reason Because I want to see what is acceptable as a clone besides the now discontinued URGI uppers |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 1:45:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: Because I want to see what is acceptable as a clone besides the now discontinued URGI uppers USGI is what's seen on the first page. Clone would be those parts as long as they are currently commercially available or the closest thing you can source if not. Lower of course isn't. 4 prong, LA-5, WMX, taupe SOPMOD, etc. are harder to find so we would welcome reasonable substitutes for them. Something like a 3 prong or commercial ACH at the moment. Of course, any 14.5" barrel that is the correct profile at the front will look right. You could use a commercial upper receiver and BCG and nobody will know. I just don't see why you would intentionally not use a DDC rail, DD barrel, etc. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:09:20 PM EDT
[#39]
There were just 260 dollar ddc blem mk16s up on geissele. They even restocked. At that point paying someone to try to replicate the look of ano with cerakote puts you much further in the hole than selling your black mk16 and buying a ddc. No one here actually cares about however you build your upper in the end though.
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:32:08 PM EDT
[#40]
Mine is 95% clone correct, maybe a little less than 95%.
DD 14.5” barrel Giessele MK16 in DDC Giessele NSN ACH Colt cage code upper, - debatable Colt C marked BCG Where I stray is, MK12 gas block, but this was what was available when I first built this when parts first came available, and the DD pinned block wasn’t being talked about yet. AAC Breakout 2.0, since for now I don’t have a Surefire suppressor, once I get that I will swap that. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:00:39 PM EDT
[#41]
@McCarron here’s the color difference between LMT & B5 Sopmod stocks. Also the texture is different, Lmt is much smother than B5’s.
Left- LMT Tan Right- B5 Coyote  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2021 5:11:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewhitebull: There were just 260 dollar ddc blem mk16s up on geissele. They even restocked. At that point paying someone to try to replicate the look of ano with cerakote puts you much further in the hole than selling your black mk16 and buying a ddc. No one here actually cares about however you build your upper in the end though. Those blem ones came up a few days after my black mk16 showed up. The cerakote work is free since a buddy started doing it and he wants stuff to demo it on. I’ve seen lots of variations in ddc. Some looks fde some looks burnt bronze and even some looked almost grey. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2021 5:16:43 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: USGI is what's seen on the first page. Clone would be those parts as long as they are currently commercially available or the closest thing you can source if not. Lower of course isn't. 4 prong, LA-5, WMX, taupe SOPMOD, etc. are harder to find so we would welcome reasonable substitutes for them. Something like a 3 prong or commercial ACH at the moment. Of course, any 14.5" barrel that is the correct profile at the front will look right. You could use a commercial upper receiver and BCG and nobody will know. I just don't see why you would intentionally not use a DDC rail, DD barrel, etc. Because opticsplanet decided to not fill my stripped urgi upper and it’s 2021 so parts aren’t exactly easy to get. I might as well do “clone inspired” since parts are near impossible to find. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 5:39:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: Because opticsplanet decided to not fill my stripped urgi upper and it’s 2021 so parts aren’t exactly easy to get. I might as well do “clone inspired” since parts are near impossible to find. I'm not going to tell you to GTFO if you have a different barrel under the handguards or an A2 as a stand in until you get a SureFire. It just sounded like you want to go against the grain. 4 words for you though: Back in stock notifications |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 6:13:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: Because opticsplanet decided to not fill my stripped urgi upper and it's 2021 so parts aren't exactly easy to get. I might as well do "clone inspired" since parts are near impossible to find. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 10:12:03 PM EDT
[#46]
Anyone know if the recent blem MK16s are NSN marked?
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Posted: 3/14/2021 10:29:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03CR: Anyone know if the recent blem MK16s are NSN marked? I would assume all new production is. The blems will likely have a Count Blemula laser mark FWIW. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 10:36:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03CR: Anyone know if the recent blem MK16s are NSN marked? The blem I got, has the black stripe and is NSN marked. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 10:45:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Thanks guys, just ordered!
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2021 11:18:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oneofus]
[#50]
 Any idea the offset mount hes using on the aimpoint? absolutely love this build |
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