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Posted: 5/28/2020 4:02:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: I remember you stating you thought they were Geissele gas blocks, but wasn’t 100% sure... They are using pinned DD low profile gas blocks like it shows in the OP. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 4:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: I remember you stating you thought they were Geissele gas blocks, but wasn’t 100% sure... No. The only gas block seen in the field so far is the Daniel Defense factory Low Profile Pinned Gas Block that is fitted at the factory. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/28/2020 8:03:19 PM EDT
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Thanks guys.
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USA
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Posted: 5/28/2020 8:27:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: I made an image comparing the fit of the Mk12 gas block and the Daniel Defense low profile gas block. I don't have a Geissele gas block as sold on the commercial URG-Is so I couldn't include it, sorry. It is larger than the DD though. There may have been issued URG-Is with modified Mk12 gas blocks but I haven't seen any evidence of that. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/Mk12_vs_DD_jpg-1414120.JPG The DD is only available on complete barrels. Is this .750 low profile gas block the right one? It looks like they are available as a standalone product on the DD website now. https://danieldefense.com/750-clamp-low-profile-gas-block.html |
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USA
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Posted: 5/28/2020 8:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: Is this .750 low profile gas block the right one? It looks like they are available as a standalone product on the DD website now. https://danieldefense.com/750-clamp-low-profile-gas-block.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: Is this .750 low profile gas block the right one? It looks like they are available as a standalone product on the DD website now. https://danieldefense.com/750-clamp-low-profile-gas-block.html Originally Posted By Vapor-Trail: No. The only gas block seen in the field so far is the Daniel Defense factory Low Profile Pinned Gas Block that is fitted at the factory. pinned, not clamped. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: Is this .750 low profile gas block the right one? It looks like they are available as a standalone product on the DD website now. https://danieldefense.com/750-clamp-low-profile-gas-block.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: Originally Posted By pezboytate: I made an image comparing the fit of the Mk12 gas block and the Daniel Defense low profile gas block. I don't have a Geissele gas block as sold on the commercial URG-Is so I couldn't include it, sorry. It is larger than the DD though. There may have been issued URG-Is with modified Mk12 gas blocks but I haven't seen any evidence of that. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/Mk12_vs_DD_jpg-1414120.JPG The DD is only available on complete barrels. Is this .750 low profile gas block the right one? It looks like they are available as a standalone product on the DD website now. https://danieldefense.com/750-clamp-low-profile-gas-block.html The pinned gas block is not sold separately I asked DD if they would sell them. They said no, due to the difficulty many people might have drilling them without using the correct fixture and/or proper methods. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: I remember you stating you thought they were Geissele gas blocks, but wasn’t 100% sure... and then I corrected myself after I got guns instead of specs. Its the pinned DD gas block as others have stated. CD |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:48:09 AM EDT
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What attachments are you guys using for the CQD sling points?
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Posted: 5/29/2020 2:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prxr8765: What attachments are you guys using for the CQD sling points? HK hook in front, just sling over top of Sopmod stock in the back. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:51:35 PM EDT
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I have a DD pinned gas block I drilled with a 2/0 taper pin reamer. I went a little far with the reamer, but that could be fixed by installing a slightly larger taper pin. I didn't have any pins on hand and needed to use the gun, and went with a set screw style lp gas block. Anyway, if anyone is interested, I'm taking offers for the DD pinned block. It has a DD gas tube installed and both the block and tube are unfired.
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USA
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Posted: 5/30/2020 6:58:55 PM EDT
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DD uses a shorty tapered pin, 0.575" OAL for their pinned GB, compared to the std FSB 2/0 taper pin which is appx 0.84" - 0.85" OAL.
I have no idea where one would get this shorty special from ... |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 8:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98: DD uses a shorty tapered pin, 0.575" OAL for their pinned GB, compared to the std FSB 2/0 taper pin which is appx 0.84" - 0.85" OAL. I have no idea where one would get this shorty special from ... You can just cut down a standard taper pin. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/30/2020 9:04:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rpoL98]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: You can just cut down a standard taper pin. I thought of that, but wondering about the hardening, might be surface hardened, hardened to what depth? then the cut end wouldn't have the hardened property, white steel. not sure if through-hardened. i guess there's one way to find out, cut one down, the small end, install it, and then wail on it with the hammer, see if it mushrooms. the DD pin is a nice pin, polished, nitrided. |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 11:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98: I thought of that, but wondering about the hardening, might be surface hardened, hardened to what depth? then the cut end wouldn't have the hardened property, white steel. not sure if through-hardened. i guess there's one way to find out, cut one down, the small end, install it, and then wail on it with the hammer, see if it mushrooms. the DD pin is a nice pin, polished, nitrided. Something as small, and thin, as a taper pin is probably hardened all the way through. I wouldn't worry about it. Cut, maybe cold blue cut end, install. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:49:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MNRidesHonda]
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Posted: 6/1/2020 9:51:25 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:25:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Show off. Rumor on the street is they are just Airsoft..... 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:51:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATravis11b: Rumor on the street is they are just Airsoft..... https://i.imgur.com/au55cYv.jpg Truth 
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USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 7:17:06 AM EDT
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I emailed Geissele to see what roll marks the issued guns had:
Good Afternoon, Thank you for contacting us and for your interest in our products. The contract 14.5" MK16 rails are roll marked with the NSN. Some early comercial 14.5" may be either laser engraved or roll marked. The 9.3" and 10.5" rails may either be laser engraved or roll marked Geissele Automatics. I hope this information helps and please let me know if there is anything else I can assist you with. Thank you, Justin |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 8:36:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: I emailed Geissele to see what roll marks the issued guns had: Good Afternoon, Thank you for contacting us and for your interest in our products. The contract 14.5" MK16 rails are roll marked with the NSN. Some early comercial 14.5" may be either laser engraved or roll marked. The 9.3" and 10.5" rails may either be laser engraved or roll marked Geissele Automatics. I hope this information helps and please let me know if there is anything else I can assist you with. Thank you, Justin I wouldn't put too much stock in what Geissele says is issued. So far, there has been photographic evidence of issued laser P/N and blank 13.5"s as well as stamped NSN. Also, we're yet to see any issued 9.3"s or 10.5"s. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 6:18:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jobob182]
[#21]
She’s almost finished. The only parts I’m waiting on is the kac rear sight.
I’m holding out for a good deal on a razor. So don’t mind the placeholder scope! My “block” wall of sister guns.  [/url][/img]I call them sister guns because they are all circa to each of my daughters birth years. The receivers all started as 80% lowers that are clone correct engraved, well except for the serial numbers, which are personalized for each daughter. |
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Posted: 6/3/2020 12:43:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: The pinned gas block is not sold separately I asked DD if they would sell them. They said no, due to the difficulty many people might have drilling them without using the correct fixture and/or proper methods. DD had it at my doorstep In less than five days. |
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Posted: 6/3/2020 10:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Just buy the barrel with the gas block, it's only $363 IIRC. DD had it at my doorstep In less than five days. Close.....$359. :) |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 10:51:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeBud: Close.....$359. :) I guess I should start stocking these and giving you guys a better price. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 2:02:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leerx: I emailed Geissele to see what roll marks the issued guns had: Good Afternoon, Thank you for contacting us and for your interest in our products. The contract 14.5" MK16 rails are roll marked with the NSN. Some early comercial 14.5" may be either laser engraved or roll marked. The 9.3" and 10.5" rails may either be laser engraved or roll marked Geissele Automatics. I hope this information helps and please let me know if there is anything else I can assist you with. Thank you, Justin I dont think geissele really knows what they are sending out and more so just depends on who showed up to work that day ( laser guy, rollmark guy, etc) because out of the rails i have (6) every single one is different and the last one was 10.5 came with nothing on it some im assuming nobody showed up for work that day Seems like they are more invested in making and marketing blems these days anyways.. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 3:53:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:42:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: india13c]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: https://i.postimg.cc/Vkb7zXFW/272-D703-D-7918-4202-A4-BF-4199-F97322-A0.jpg Sweet photo. Another Strike Eagle or is that a viper 1-6? Any ideas what’s on the bolt catch? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2020 8:53:20 PM EDT
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This may have already been covered, but what kind of packaging do the armorers receive the barrels in?
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Posted: 6/5/2020 12:18:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: I guess I should start stocking these and giving you guys a better price. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 7:08:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03CR: This may have already been covered, but what kind of packaging do the armorers receive the barrels in? There was a pic showing the kits in Daniel Defense boxes. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 7:22:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: There was a pic showing the kits in Daniel Defense boxes. In this thread? Or somewhere else? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2020 12:33:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: oohsnapss]
[#32]
My URGI setup
SR15 lower URGI near clone Vortex 1-10 + ADM Scout mount SUREFIRE SOCOM RC2 556   
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Posted: 6/10/2020 8:12:19 PM EDT
[#33]
New NSN Marked rail in the EE.. saw another sell quick today so I figured why not get rid of my extra.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2020 8:21:25 PM EDT
[#34]
Still confused, are the rails with the part numbers lasered in and the Geissele stamped found in the wild?
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Posted: 6/10/2020 8:41:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Still confused, are the rails with the part numbers lasered in and the Geissele stamped found in the wild? From what has been shown in pictures and verified in person, it looks like each version has been seen in the wild. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 8:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: From what has been shown in pictures and verified in person, it looks like each version has been seen in the wild. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Still confused, are the rails with the part numbers lasered in and the Geissele stamped found in the wild? From what has been shown in pictures and verified in person, it looks like each version has been seen in the wild. I believe this is the case. The marking variations just changed rapidly during initial production. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 9:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: From what has been shown in pictures and verified in person, it looks like each version has been seen in the wild. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Still confused, are the rails with the part numbers lasered in and the Geissele stamped found in the wild? From what has been shown in pictures and verified in person, it looks like each version has been seen in the wild. The answer is actually quite simple. Early on we were given a tight schedule, and when the NSN was assigned we had to use a laser to start. Once the tooling was built for the roll mark which took some time we switched and stopped lasering. The lasered rails are the earliest rails. We have not lasered one rail since switching to the roll mark. Both are correct. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2020 9:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gajp: The answer is actually quite simple. Early on we were given a tight schedule, and when the NSN was assigned we had to use a laser to start. Once the tooling was built for the roll mark which took some time we switched and stopped lasering. The lasered rails are the earliest rails. We have not lasered one rail since switching to the roll mark. Both are correct. Thank you, but what about the ones with the part Number, without the NSN? |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 12:46:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: allensaldi]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Thank you, but what about the ones with the part Number, without the NSN? Those may have been from Black Friday 2018 when they said there was no guarantees of having an NSN marked. Also none of the shorter rails were ever NSN marked. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2020 3:52:02 PM EDT
[#40]
We’re waiting to get them installed on our guns. It’s a DD box
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Posted: 6/14/2020 8:17:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2020 2:11:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cmdexe]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gajp: The answer is actually quite simple. Early on we were given a tight schedule, and when the NSN was assigned we had to use a laser to start. Once the tooling was built for the roll mark which took some time we switched and stopped lasering. The lasered rails are the earliest rails. We have not lasered one rail since switching to the roll mark. Both are correct. @gajp Is it because you had such a tight schedule the reason that they are so bendy? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2020 11:28:05 AM EDT
[#43]
You find the strangest pictures on the internet sometimes:
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USA
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Posted: 6/16/2020 11:46:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: delta_romeo_echo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phlegm: You find the strangest pictures on the internet sometimes: https://images.theoutdoorwire.com/2020/01/07/1202bb00-fc8d-4d12-8dcf-69f916a26cdb_600x800.jpg The FDE (tanodized?) ATACR!! I wrote NF an E-mail and begged them to release the NX8 and ATACR in tano for us civilians. Is that a Badger mount? |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 11:55:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: The FDE (tanodized?) ATACR!! I wrote NF an E-mail and begged them to release the NX8 and ATACR in tano for us civilians. Is that a Badger mount? I had a long (over 30 minute) discussion with their .mil/gov rep on the phone. He said for the tano ATACR to come out for non-mil/gov sales it would have to come from the commercial side of their business. He said if enough people hammer their commercial sales reps, it might come out for commercial sales. |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 6:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: The FDE (tanodized?) ATACR!! I wrote NF an E-mail and begged them to release the NX8 and ATACR in tano for us civilians. Is that a Badger mount? It's a NightForce UltraMount. Also not available to civilians. |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 3:08:12 PM EDT
[#47]
I'm guessing no pics ITW of the 11.5"s yet?
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2020 6:21:19 AM EDT
[#48]
Is USASOC supposed to be going to 11.5’s and ditching the mk18?
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Posted: 6/19/2020 9:48:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556hunter: Is USASOC supposed to be going to 11.5’s and ditching the mk18? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556hunter: Is USASOC supposed to be going to 11.5’s and ditching the mk18? Originally Posted By nate_the_great: I'm guessing no pics ITW of the 11.5"s yet? Originally Posted By 556hunter: Is USASOC supposed to be going to 11.5’s and ditching the mk18? All we know at this point is that there's an NSN for an 11.5" kit. |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: All we know at this point is that there's an NSN for an 11.5" kit. There have been absolutely ZERO in the wild pictures of testing or anything of that nature. I'm going to say, probably not going to happen. |
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