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Posted: 9/20/2018 9:48:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Recce_Gear]
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Lighting, although Vortex did do a small run of black Razor Gen II’s a couple of years ago
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Posted: 9/20/2018 10:28:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Recce_Gear:
Lighting, although Vortex did do a small run of black Razor Gen II’s a couple of years ago |
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Posted: 9/20/2018 11:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unoigo: Eye box on the razor is bigger than mk6 but the clarity is matched and the wgt difference is very noticeable. I have the JM reticle but prefer the TMR on the mk6. And it’s just as daylight bright imo. I’m used to going between NX8 and Razor and the eye box difference almost leads me to part with the NX8. For me anyway, using the Razor for so long it’s takes more one for me to get on target with the NX8. To be honest I’m not really a fan on the NX8. The ATACR is a different story. I keep seeing Mk6 deals popping up and it always tempts me. I had the opportunity to mess with a Kahles, Razor, and Nx8 I just wish the Razor was ~17-18oz I'm still pinching pennies for a Kahles ,but the Razor keeps looking more interesting due to price. (I guess i'm just itching to spend money on something lol) |
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Posted: 9/20/2018 11:46:20 PM EDT
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What is the proper buffer weight for this rifle?
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Posted: 9/20/2018 11:48:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: unoigo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
What is the proper buffer weight for this rifle? |
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Posted: 9/20/2018 11:52:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
What is the proper buffer weight for this rifle? |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 12:19:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
What is the proper buffer weight for this rifle? |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 7:15:15 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies! I'll start with the standard spring and a H2 and go from there.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:49:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerForged: I'm running super 42 in H2. Runs great. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 12:35:10 PM EDT
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I'm using an A5-3 with green spring in mine, but I had a few sporadic failures to lock back on empty Gen M3 PMAGs. I'm going to try the standard A5 buffer next weekend, which I assume will fix it. But that's what got me wondering about the over-gassed comment, I've used the same buffer setup on my Noveske and BCM for thousands of rounds and never had that issue.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 1:10:40 PM EDT
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I don't know much about the Super 42 spring system. I am assuming that you can use a standard H2 buffer with it instead of having to spend $20 on an extra weight to take the standard H up to a H2?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 1:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
I don't know much about the Super 42 spring system. I am assuming that you can use a standard H2 buffer with it instead of having to spend $20 on an extra weight to take the standard H up to a H2? |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 2:52:06 PM EDT
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Geissele H1 and Colt H2 side by side for comparison. I’ve been running the Colt H2 with the Geissele Super 42 Spring in both my URG-I’s. No issues.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 2:58:16 PM EDT
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I'd have to put the calipers to them but they don't appear to be all that different in diameter in those pics.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 3:05:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThRob]
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I know that most people in this thread are looking forward to seeing the Army SF fielding these and seeing what optics they run, but is anyone else excited to see all of the random “been there, done that”, painted up, used and abused M4 lowers that these new uppers get attached to? Or am I just a rare breed?
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Posted: 9/21/2018 3:16:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThRob:
I know that most people in this thread are looking forward to seeing the Army SF fielding these and seeing what optics they run, but is anyone else excited to see all of the random “been there, done that”, painted up, used and abused M4 lowers that these new uppers get attached to? Or am I just a rare breed? |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 3:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowonair: Speaking of paint, I’m leaning hard towards painting mine. Just worried it’ll come out retarded since I’ve never done it before. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 3:53:07 PM EDT
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Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. Excited to get out there and shoot it. And order my light and RC1.
Never hurts to have options. Still trying to figure out what I should run. 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 4:08:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Recce_Gear]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 5:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Recce_Gear: I got the shipping notice for my complete clone this morning, so now the wait for UPS begins. Did yours include a Super 42? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 6:56:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HAMBURGERATTACK]
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Cant wait to finish my build up and take some good pics.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 6:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Recce_Gear: I got the shipping notice for my complete clone this morning, so now the wait for UPS begins. Did yours include a Super 42? |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 8:19:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
I don't know much about the Super 42 spring system. I am assuming that you can use a standard H2 buffer with it instead of having to spend $20 on an extra weight to take the standard H up to a H2? Regarding the diameter difference, in another comment, I haven’t ran into any issues. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 8:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/43018488290_69b60de269_k.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/43918604475_f8301778f9_k.jpg |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2018 8:50:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IceAuger:
Who did you order from? |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 9:02:20 PM EDT
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Thanks.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 9:03:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. Excited to get out there and shoot it. And order my light and RC1. Never hurts to have options. Still trying to figure out what I should run. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/43018488290_69b60de269_k.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/43918604475_f8301778f9_k.jpg |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:15:45 PM EDT
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I ordered mine from Charlies as well, Clone Correct Pinned with Geissele Vortex mount. They told me to expect it in 2-3 weeks, so we shall see.
I've got a Colt M4 lower, Geissele Maritime Bolt Catch, and Colt Ambi safety coming shortly for it as well. B5 Enhanced Sopmod and Ergo grip waiting in the safe with the Razor. I guess I'll order the proper light and can with the coupons one the upper gets here. I haven't been this pumped about a clone build well ever. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:21:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
That's interesting. Charlie told me they were C marked uppers, not the cage code uppers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. Excited to get out there and shoot it. And order my light and RC1. Never hurts to have options. Still trying to figure out what I should run. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/43018488290_69b60de269_k.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/43918604475_f8301778f9_k.jpg |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:37:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WTFShane: This confirms that they’re using the newer CAGE stamped uppers. Originally Posted By JLAudio: That's interesting. Charlie told me they were C marked uppers, not the cage code uppers. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:56:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Thanks for your insight. I keep seeing Mk6 deals popping up and it always tempts me. I had the opportunity to mess with a Kahles, Razor, and Nx8 I just wish the Razor was ~17-18oz I'm still pinching pennies for a Kahles ,but the Razor keeps looking more interesting due to price. (I guess i'm just itching to spend money on something lol) CSTactical often has trade show demo Kahles optics at excellent prices. I think ~1515 was about the mark for demo K16s with G4 and SM1 reticles. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 10:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Yup, same ones from the 2018 run of SOCOM rifles. Interesting. I don't really mind either way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By WTFShane: This confirms that they’re using the newer CAGE stamped uppers. Originally Posted By JLAudio: That's interesting. Charlie told me they were C marked uppers, not the cage code uppers. |
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Posted: 9/21/2018 11:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: You ordered from Charlies as well? What does the description on your box say? |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 12:08:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. Excited to get out there and shoot it. And order my light and RC1. Never hurts to have options. Still trying to figure out what I should run. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/43018488290_69b60de269_k.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/43918604475_f8301778f9_k.jpg |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 2:28:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
I don't know much about the Super 42 spring system. I am assuming that you can use a standard H2 buffer with it instead of having to spend $20 on an extra weight to take the standard H up to a H2? |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2018 2:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
I've got a Colt M4 lower, Geissele Maritime Bolt Catch, and Colt Ambi safety coming shortly for it as well. B5 Enhanced Sopmod and Ergo grip waiting in the safe with the Razor. I guess I'll order the proper light and can with the coupons one the upper gets here. I haven't been this pumped about a clone build well ever.  .
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Posted: 9/22/2018 7:54:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Add a SSA or SSA-E trigger and you'll be good . |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 10:19:19 AM EDT
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Anyone know where to get a vortex DDC mount? Everywhere appears to be OOS.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2018 1:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwhited:
Anyone know where to get a vortex DDC mount? Everywhere appears to be OOS. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2018 1:32:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skrapmetal]
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Up to close to 1k rounds through it now. |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 3:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwhited:
Anyone know where to get a vortex DDC mount? Everywhere appears to be OOS. This is where I bought mine. |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 10:37:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nihilsum: Keep pinching for the K16... it is worth it, although nothing you listed is a bad option. CSTactical often has trade show demo Kahles optics at excellent prices. I think ~1515 was about the mark for demo K16s with G4 and SM1 reticles. I might have to bite on a SM1 if I see a price like that. While not clone correct, the k16 in 3GR is pretty sweet and will most likely end up on this Urg. (Assuming... I don't blow my wad prematurely on other glass deals...  )
For my eyes the Razor/k16 really stood out in terms of Glass clarity/eye box. I'll keep an eye out. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:40:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
About three beers seems to get rid of that worry. Take it from someone who knows. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By lowonair: Speaking of paint, I’m leaning hard towards painting mine. Just worried it’ll come out retarded since I’ve never done it before. 
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:42:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Got mine yesterday. Didn't get a chance to really go through everything and take some poorly lit photos until today. Excited to get out there and shoot it. And order my light and RC1. Never hurts to have options. Still trying to figure out what I should run. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/43018488290_69b60de269_k.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/43918604475_f8301778f9_k.jpg |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 4:49:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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I tried to do a comparison test between different buffer spring setups. It didn't go too well because they all felt somewhat similar.
Left has Tubbs spring w/ Spikes T2 buffer, middle has VLTOR A5 system w/ A5H2 buffer, and right has Geissele Super 42 spring w/ H2 buffer. 
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Posted: 9/23/2018 8:26:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
I tried to do a comparison test between different buffer spring setups. It didn't go too well because they all felt somewhat similar. Left has Tubbs spring w/ Spikes T2 buffer, middle has VLTOR A5 system w/ A5H2 buffer, and right has Geissele Super 42 spring w/ H2 buffer. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/30985969228_7c2d872e45_c.jpg |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 10:39:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
You should have tried the standard carbine spring and a H2 as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie:
Originally Posted By WTFShane:
I tried to do a comparison test between different buffer spring setups. It didn't go too well because they all felt somewhat similar. Left has Tubbs spring w/ Spikes T2 buffer, middle has VLTOR A5 system w/ A5H2 buffer, and right has Geissele Super 42 spring w/ H2 buffer. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/30985969228_7c2d872e45_c.jpg If it doesn't run on a carbine spring and an H or H2 buffer, get a better barrel. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:31:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
It did not. :( Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By Recce_Gear: I got the shipping notice for my complete clone this morning, so now the wait for UPS begins. Did yours include a Super 42? Unless they only meant the near clone and not the clone will come with one. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STXDobie: You should have tried the standard carbine spring and a H2 as well. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:43:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vanquishings]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378:
I'd ask geissele or CCC where it is, they said every near clone will come with a super 42 Unless they only meant the near clone and not the clone will come with one. Reached out to their Customer service to find out if I should have got one. Also, didn't get this at Charlie's. May be a deal from them. |
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