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So where does one find a Colt Canada lower with either the maple leaf of Diemaco marked lower here in the States? View Quote It is illegal to import receivers that can accept magazines holding more than 10 rounds. You can thank that a**hole LBJ for the "sporting clause." I also believe that Colt Canada cannot sell to the US, as for what ruling it is, I have no idea. They are too many to count. It's like a combination of a trade deal with Colt and Colt Canada, ATF importation regulations, etc. I guess you can buy one from an individual in Canada, then walk over the border to the US; but even then, I believe it would be considered as contraband by the ATF. The only solution is to go the engraving 80% lower route. |
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Scruffy Elephant, you are 100% correct.
Getting lowers in is almost impossible as per ATF, one of the very few people that can do that is Colt USA because of their partner relationship and the need to supply the US Military. Uppers are almost as bad, barrels are completely verboten for example. Hence taking an 80% and engraving it is absolutely a persons best option. Get an 80, send it to John Brace, finish it out or have someone finish it out, then have someone like me anodize it the correct color. |
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A British soldier, with an American SOT, making Canadian weapons, in USA. Talk about taking and maintaining the special Anglo / American relationship to a new level. Ramsey McDonald, Winston, and the Iron Lady would be proud!
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While you're at it, here's another version you could do. I bet Ron @ Allen Engineering could get you all set up with an AEM 3 or 4 with knurling and everything and the right collar setup for a 10" L119 barrel. And the Vortex FH with OPS Inc threading are out there as well. https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/arctic.jpg https://warriorpublications.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/cf-op-nanook-2.jpg And then get back to me when you figure out how to replicate a C8 IUR upper, since it's apparently caught up in that whole "no sales or exportation of Colt Canada stuff to USA" thing. Currently it seems like the 9.2" YHM rail is the closest visual match, and I don't think any of the monolithic type uppers on the market could be milled or modified to match it as none use the standard M4 flat top upper, they're all billet with weirdo forward assist shapes and brass deflectors. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fe/e9/fb/fee9fb0685fb1f9f62564d032566b4c3--police-gear-toyota.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VA5ITte.jpg https://78.media.tumblr.com/1b3b5da8aeafc3359a1bbb40934c3db4/tumblr_ncu9xvj6WD1rhrguuo2_1280.jpg View Quote Correct? |
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I wonder if the SAS are using the Allen Engineering barrel extension with their 10.5” barrels?
I was thinking of building a CANSOFCOME clone by getting a 10.5” Colt Canada SAS IUR and throwing on an collar adapter extender, but have recently learned that the CANSOFCOM rifles are not set up that way. Apparently, they have an IUR with an 11.6” barrel and an Allen Engineering collar around it. To build a CANSOFCOM clone, I’d need the 11.6” barrel from a Colt Canada MRR upper, and swap the barrel onto the Colt Canada SAS upper, then mill the grenade launcher lug off. Barrel swapping IURs and MRRs are a colossal pain in the dick because you’d need to fabricate a custom barrel nut wrench. |
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I wonder if the SAS are using the Allen Engineering barrel extension with their 10.5” barrels? I was thinking of building a CANSOFCOME clone by getting a 10.5” Colt Canada SAS IUR and throwing on an collar adapter extender, but have recently learned that the CANSOFCOM rifles are not set up that way. Apparently, they have an IUR with an 11.6” barrel and an Allen Engineering collar around it. To build a CANSOFCOM clone, I’d need the 11.6” barrel from a Colt Canada MRR upper, and swap the barrel onto the Colt Canada SAS upper, then mill the grenade launcher lug off. Barrel swapping IURs and MRRs are a colossal pain in the dick because you’d need to fabricate a custom barrel nut wrench. View Quote |
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maybe i missed it but is the barrel profile the same as the mk 18 mod 0 ?
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Quoted: The SAS use Surefire cans with their 10" SBRs View Quote http://www.nordicmarksman.com/Colt-Canada-SAS-3rd-Gen-IUR-105-Upper.html |
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Quoted: 10" or 10.5"? http://www.nordicmarksman.com/Colt-Canada-SAS-3rd-Gen-IUR-105-Upper.html http://www.nordicmarksman.com/kz-content/images/xlarge/colt-canada-sas-3rd-gen-iur-105-upper2494176824942348.jpg View Quote I am lucky enough to have one. Will post some pics of my a2 build in that thread soon. |
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Such a tease to see this available for sale across the border.
http://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/colt-canada-diemaco-premium-complete-lower.html#.WmlOmK2ZNE4 |
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Before they would use IURs, C8-CQB rifles had 10" (more like 9.9") barrels with Smith Enterprises extended Vortex muzzle devices (barrel extension) to mount Allen Engineering Mk.12 style suppressors. Allen Engineering suppressors slip over part of the barrel to rest on the "collar" of the barrel (or barrel extension) to ensure proper bore alignment. The C8-SFW doesn't use an extension, but simply replace the Simon sleeve (more like Diemaco grenade launcher mount) with a sleeve made for Allen Engineering suppressors to slip over. Unlike CanSOF, the SAS will go on to use the Surefire SOCOM series of muzzle devices for the Surefire SOCOM QD suppressors. I don't know if this helps, but here are some pictures I took from Vickers Guide AR15 Vol.2. Since you mentioned CanSOF, I thought about sharing this for kicks, and if anyone interested in a build. https://i.imgur.com/0t5J8s1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3lQfGyg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DwZ44qS.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if the SAS are using the Allen Engineering barrel extension with their 10.5” barrels? I was thinking of building a CANSOFCOME clone by getting a 10.5” Colt Canada SAS IUR and throwing on an collar adapter extender, but have recently learned that the CANSOFCOM rifles are not set up that way. Apparently, they have an IUR with an 11.6” barrel and an Allen Engineering collar around it. To build a CANSOFCOM clone, I’d need the 11.6” barrel from a Colt Canada MRR upper, and swap the barrel onto the Colt Canada SAS upper, then mill the grenade launcher lug off. Barrel swapping IURs and MRRs are a colossal pain in the dick because you’d need to fabricate a custom barrel nut wrench. I don't know if this helps, but here are some pictures I took from Vickers Guide AR15 Vol.2. Since you mentioned CanSOF, I thought about sharing this for kicks, and if anyone interested in a build. https://i.imgur.com/0t5J8s1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3lQfGyg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DwZ44qS.jpg What rear BUIS is this? Looks like an interesting, stripped down or prototype MaTech or something. The arm/aperture itself appears to be the exact same one the MaTech uses. Sight body itself just looks more steam lined/slimmed down |
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Quoted: I believe it is a Colt Canada manufactured rear sight. It's like a hybrid between a KAC micro 300m rear sight and a MaTech sight. Diemaco back then made all kinds of accessories for their rifles, like the A1 and A2 carry handles. I saw one on a early IUR for military sales in the book, stating they created the IUR for the Netherlands, but they Netherlands military actually uses the A.R.M.S. sights. I know for a fact now, thanks to OP Elucidate, if the SAS were to use a rear sight on a L119A1, it would mostly be a MaTech. Colt Canada advertises that rear sight on their website for their "upgrade" programs regarding the L119A2. http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/L119A2-C8-SFW.jpg View Quote |
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I'll get into this when I hit optics but UKSF dont run and have never run BUIS on the A1.
There is one demo rifle that has a Matech but its never seen active service. The Colt Canada A2 (I have a separate thread for that) has no BUIS and they are not listed in the package specs. The pictures and manual entries are for illustration purposes. ETA: Yes they are 100% in house CC in the pictures |
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Essential Arms makes the classic style carbine lock rings for $20.
I've used them on clones. They had a slightly finished beveled edge was on one side (the wrong side on the two I had, it faced the end plate) but wasn't really an issue to me. |
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Quoted: Before they would use IURs, C8-CQB rifles had 10" (more like 9.9") barrels with Smith Enterprises extended Vortex muzzle devices (barrel extension) to mount Allen Engineering Mk.12 style suppressors. Allen Engineering suppressors slip over part of the barrel to rest on the "collar" of the barrel (or barrel extension) to ensure proper bore alignment. The C8-SFW doesn't use an extension, but simply replace the Simon sleeve (more like Diemaco grenade launcher mount) with a sleeve made for Allen Engineering suppressors to slip over. Unlike CanSOF, the SAS will go on to use the Surefire SOCOM series of muzzle devices for the Surefire SOCOM QD suppressors. I don't know if this helps, but here are some pictures I took from Vickers Guide AR15 Vol.2. Since you mentioned CanSOF, I thought about sharing this for kicks, and if anyone interested in a build. https://i.imgur.com/0t5J8s1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3lQfGyg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DwZ44qS.jpg View Quote |
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It also has a thread protector. Pics of mine. https://i.imgur.com/pElVLd1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iPjTH6M.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Qj87Pkt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RZldzEQ.jpg View Quote |
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Update on the faux "L119" Gunbroker auction. Looks like he made it a penny start auction.
There are two bids currently around $1500 and the reserve amount has not been met. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/741553518 |
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The lion rampant patch on that SAS bloke's chest, is that official or a vanity to say he's Scottish?
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RE: Ops Inc Can mounting: Is that a special Simon Sleeve with the Ops Inc taper on the front, square on the rear for 203 mounting?
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The lion rampant patch on that SAS bloke's chest, is that official or a vanity to say he's Scottish? View Quote My caveat there is I didn't really ever care for any of the other regiments except for ones we worked very closely with such as Paras, PWRR and RGBW so I may just not recognize it. |
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RE: Ops Inc Can mounting: Is that a special Simon Sleeve with the Ops Inc taper on the front, square on the rear for 203 mounting? View Quote |
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I was under the impression that Diemaco rifles used heavy barrels in their carbines. Specifically, the C8-CQB. Did the L119A1 use a heavy barrel or a government profile barrel like in OP's images?
As for hammer forging. I'm giving that up because of consistency. My BCM SFW upper does not use a hammer forged barrel (seriously, why BCM?) [not marked BFH], and I cannot for the life of me find a heavy barrel that is all chrome-lined, 1:7 twist, and hammer forged. Palmetto State Armory sold an imported FNH 16" barrel that was chrome-lined and hammer forged with the right twist rate. The barrel had the right taper for the SFW, but the taper was not sharp enough for a CQB, but it still would have been the best. I could have bought two for both the SFW and the CQB, but some lucky bastard got to it before I could and I don't know if it would ever be restocked. I should have not waited so long. |
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I've seen pictures of the real L119A1 and it uses a Gov profile. Indeed I have seen heavier barrels on the Canadian rifles.
Really, and I hope this post is illustrating it, the British L119 series shares very little in common with any other rifle, despite some outward appearances. |
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which bcm barrel did you start out with and did you have to open the gas port ?
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which bcm barrel did you start out with and did you have to open the gas port ? View Quote I actually had John Thomas at Retro Arms works do it because I also had him re-parkerize the FSB to match the older color and drill the barrel and fit the FSB. |
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It was a 14.5" one I think, and yes, to 0.70 I actually had John Thomas at Retro Arms works do it because I also had him re-parkerize the FSB to match the older color and drill the barrel and fit the FSB. View Quote i'm still trying to collect parts to put one of these together if it's just a govt profile barrel that makes things a little easier for me as i'll be using an f marked fsb to match up with a m4 marked diemaco upper |
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Interestingly, every single one has a large tick on the right hand side. No markings exist on the right hand side of the lower. http://i64.tinypic.com/103henc.png View Quote |
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Super late on this, didn't see it until now, but there's a company that makes their LPK with those safety profiles. I had to hunt one down for a different clone I did. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4766/40049726981_b3b4857cc1_o.jpg View Quote |
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Who is it? I must have been buying them as I had 3 lying around in my parts bin, but I have no idea where those parts kits came from View Quote |
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This is truly an impressive project. I really appreciate the effort to make everything as close to the real deal as possible.
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Canada uses the old style nut as seen on pre M4 guns. The one with the round hole. I had to go find an old style wrench to be able to fit this! So for the guys with the TAPCO wrenches that don't know what this is used for, its used for the old nuts! http://i65.tinypic.com/2l19h1.png View Quote |
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ScruffyElephant
Drop me a note, I can get the FH216A's at MSRP On the endplate, it can rotate under extreme pressure from a sling etc. The best bet it to fit the Vltor, or drill and tap the WE endplate to take the Vltor piece to stop it rotating. |
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