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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:25:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Ah, that's right -- I couldn't remember where I got the 10.700" OAL at the low end from. FN. I think the factory Colt was the longest and where I got the 10.75" OAL. For reference, here is a Crane cutdown next to a factory FN SOCOM (photo by CD). Looks like it'd be around the DD measurement and I'd assume they vary within the acceptable range. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6759_jpg-858586.JPG Edit: To summarize all that clone babble, lol... as long as you land somewhere between 10.70" and 10.75" OAL with a 10.35" measurement from the bolt face, you'll be good Tig. I'd probably go for the DD measurement of 10.72" if you're going to use it with a RIS II -- that'll give you a shoulder that lines up perfectly with the end of the rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Originally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By krdt: Nice -- good to know. Extra bonus points if you can track down a square on a known USASOC gun, lol. I should point out (and should've done so on the drawing) that the update was based on a factory Colt 10.3" and some measurements taken by CD -- but it's worth mentioning that DD barrels are a bit shorter and Crane cutdowns might be as well. There was a whole discussion about it, but I can't recall all the details. To cover all the bases, here is an updated drawing based on the further discussion (I can't find the original drawing from pezboytate or I'd post that as well): https://i.imgur.com/ApEkn5m.jpg Edit: Nm, found it. https://i.imgur.com/681ZKJE.png My FN SOCOM was the shortest I measured at 10.700" OAL, the DD's I measured were at 10.720" OAL. I haven't measured any CRANE cut down barrels. I haven't seen any evidence Colt 10.3"s were issued, but they were longer than the DD FWIW. Ah, that's right -- I couldn't remember where I got the 10.700" OAL at the low end from. FN. I think the factory Colt was the longest and where I got the 10.75" OAL. For reference, here is a Crane cutdown next to a factory FN SOCOM (photo by CD). Looks like it'd be around the DD measurement and I'd assume they vary within the acceptable range. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6759_jpg-858586.JPG Edit: To summarize all that clone babble, lol... as long as you land somewhere between 10.70" and 10.75" OAL with a 10.35" measurement from the bolt face, you'll be good Tig. I'd probably go for the DD measurement of 10.72" if you're going to use it with a RIS II -- that'll give you a shoulder that lines up perfectly with the end of the rail. Nice. You guys are beyond helpful, as usual. Very much appreciated. Plan is a RAS drop in so far but we all know how plans can go. 
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Posted: 5/23/2022 4:46:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FONTY]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Edit: To summarize all that clone babble, lol... as long as you land somewhere between 10.70" and 10.75" OAL with a 10.35" measurement from the bolt face, you'll be good Tig. I'd probably go for the DD measurement of 10.72" if you're going to use it with a RIS II -- that'll give you a shoulder that lines up perfectly with the end of the rail. My DD barrel is actually a little shorter then the RIS II rail.  Attached FileDD MK18 surplus re-barrel kit  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 8:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: My DD barrel is actually a little shorter then the RIS II rail. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/6D186134-8A58-4F24-B1FC-CF273B59EEC7_jpe-2394497.JPG DD MK18 surplus re-barrel kit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/39E29466-137F-4239-B926-B6A75DD8F15E_jpe-2394498.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: Originally Posted By krdt: Edit: To summarize all that clone babble, lol... as long as you land somewhere between 10.70" and 10.75" OAL with a 10.35" measurement from the bolt face, you'll be good Tig. I'd probably go for the DD measurement of 10.72" if you're going to use it with a RIS II -- that'll give you a shoulder that lines up perfectly with the end of the rail. My DD barrel is actually a little shorter then the RIS II rail. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/6D186134-8A58-4F24-B1FC-CF273B59EEC7_jpe-2394497.JPG DD MK18 surplus re-barrel kit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/39E29466-137F-4239-B926-B6A75DD8F15E_jpe-2394498.JPG Yep, you're right; mine are as well. For some reason, I remembered it being even. Guess that proves you can look at something a thousand times and still fuck it up, lol. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2022 11:51:22 AM EDT
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What optic mount is that?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2022 6:36:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ_SBR]
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Since I now have a TNV/PVS-14 and Surefire M640V, picking up a laser was the next logical step. My budget didn't allow for a full-power PEQ-15, so the civvy one will have to do. Running the device all the way forward seems like the most logical and ergonomic approach though I'll miss having my taupe KAC legacy front folding sight on my rail which helped complete the build. Alas, I'll tuck it away in my clone parts pile. Looking forward to getting this out and dialing it in.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:08:35 AM EDT
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What's a proper mount for the T2?
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:26:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Weasel_Master: What's a proper mount for the T2? They one I've seen the most used by SEALs (T1/T2) is the DD. Just like I used on my T1.  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 2:53:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_SBR: Since I now have a TNV/PVS-14 and Surefire M640V, picking up a laser was the next logical step. My budget didn't allow for a full-power PEQ-15, so the civvy one will have to do. Running the device all the way forward seems like the most logical and ergonomic approach though I'll miss having my taupe KAC legacy front folding sight on my rail which helped complete the build. Alas, I'll tuck it away in my clone parts pile. Looking forward to getting this out and dialing it in. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52099638314_b810e9f295_c.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_SBR: Since I now have a TNV/PVS-14 and Surefire M640V, picking up a laser was the next logical step. My budget didn't allow for a full-power PEQ-15, so the civvy one will have to do. Running the device all the way forward seems like the most logical and ergonomic approach though I'll miss having my taupe KAC legacy front folding sight on my rail which helped complete the build. Alas, I'll tuck it away in my clone parts pile. Looking forward to getting this out and dialing it in. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52099638314_b810e9f295_c.jpg It’s nice to see a Docter atop the elcan. Looking good! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2022 9:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Nice work! Thanks dude! 
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Posted: 5/25/2022 9:38:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/26/2022 12:53:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2022 9:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/1D90A352-B7AA-4250-BE59-FDA29A51D42B_jpe-2397257.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/B8DF6484-E191-4FF7-AAF8-FF23CD672123_jpe-2397258.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/C535C6A5-1AB6-4BB7-A634-D4A3BD9D1878_jpe-2397259.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/2268F163-2C87-4860-A164-6993507C1D75_jpe-2397260.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/2F5E0494-A3E7-4361-B7E3-47A4AD92E69D_jpe-2397379.JPG |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 10:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Can you tell what optic is being used on pics 2/3 and 5? Pic five almost looks like a holosun or sig with the brightness buttons on top. I can't tell if pic 2/3 has an aimpoint t1 or something else. Pic 5 definitely looks like a holosun or sig rds. 4 is a black civilian marked EoTech 5 is a holosun (LOL) |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 10:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: 2/3 appears to be a T1 4 is a black civilian marked EoTech 5 is a holosun (LOL) Holosuns and ngals for everyone now |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:40:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: 2/3 appears to be a T1 4 is a black civilian marked EoTech 5 is a holosun (LOL) Originally Posted By wissota4: Holosuns and ngals for everyone now Originally Posted By TigerHawk: https://i.imgur.com/iKQ3w3j.jpg That Gen 1 su230 is gorgeous |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:56:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Nice batch of pics. Hell yes! That Gen |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:35:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Nice batch of pics. Hell yes! That Gen |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:28:22 PM EDT
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How sinful would a LAW tactical folder be on an otherwise kosher block ii build?
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Whoops. Thanks for the correction. I did a search before I posted it, and there must be a lot of gen2's mislabeled as gen1. Is the difference between a gen 1 and 2 the mount, the battery cover and the ability to mount an mrds?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:40:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By euclid537: How sinful would a LAW tactical folder be on an otherwise kosher block ii build? flame on  Attached File Attached File |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2022 4:33:47 PM EDT
[#22]
And it looks like black RC2s
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Posted: 5/27/2022 4:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: And it looks like black RC2s |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:20:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/CDEE5A83-8745-4C8D-B9DD-BF6D1DAE0725_jpe-2398977.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Whoops. Thanks for the correction. I did a search before I posted it, and there must be a lot of gen2's mislabeled as gen1. Is the difference between a gen 1 and 2 the mount, the battery cover and the ability to mount an mrds? Looks like his hand stop is as far forward as it can go. I wonder if he grips it behind the hand stop or not? Not quite clone correct anymore, but since I sold my b.e. Meyers 249f and since I don't have a corncob, I wanted another host for my rc so I put a closed tine flash hider on this build.  Attached File Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:44:30 PM EDT
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Congrats on the RC. Looks rad!
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:08:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Trainer cans. They are using sim bolts Ah, that makes sense. |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 2:03:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By euclid537: How sinful would a LAW tactical folder be on an otherwise kosher block ii build? flame on LAW folder is part of the URGI which at the time was only a 14.5" upper. 10.3" URG uppers still used the same shared lower. This is why you see them on BLK II 10.3". Now once they are in the system, Groups can put them on URGs that are still carried by support personal or other positions that didn't get the URGI upper. IE not every M4A1 in a SFGA got the URGI upper. CD |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 2:37:40 PM EDT
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Thanks. Not for this thread, but now I also need a G 14.5” URG-I. Great.
Question number two, and I don’t mean this to cause controversy, but how accurate are the coyote SOPMOD stocks? They do look great, but would an FDE-painted black stock me more ‘authentic’? |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 2:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By euclid537: Thanks. Not for this thread, but now I also need a G 14.5" URG-I. Great. Question number two, and I don't mean this to cause controversy, but how accurate are the coyote SOPMOD stocks? They do look great, but would an FDE-painted black stock me more 'authentic'? However, personal stocks have been used. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 4:03:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_SBR: Congrats on the RC. Looks rad!  Thank you! I'm wishing I would've also gotten a taupe or black corn cob the same time I got this. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 2:02:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Trying to decide if I should throw a surefire FH or brake on the EOD clone. I don't think they ever ran suppressed during the time this setup was in use though. And if they did, they likely would have used a kac or the legacy surefire. Anyone know if suppressors were ever used on eod cqbr's during the time period this setup was in use?
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Posted: 6/1/2022 1:03:45 PM EDT
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Anyone looking for a surplus MK18 upper?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Surplus-MK18-Upper/159-2257821/ |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2022 4:57:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jimmywhispers]
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Am I doing this right?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2022 10:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmywhispers: Am I doing this right? https://i.ibb.co/1GxfhKb/520-E57-A7-389-D-4-B7-D-844-F-4-CA045-F81898.jpg https://i.ibb.co/x8bFqGf/F7-FAB4-B0-1070-41-D8-A200-8-A29478-A783-E.jpg I’d say that’s a good start!!  |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 11:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmywhispers: Am I doing this right? https://i.ibb.co/1GxfhKb/520-E57-A7-389-D-4-B7-D-844-F-4-CA045-F81898.jpg https://i.ibb.co/x8bFqGf/F7-FAB4-B0-1070-41-D8-A200-8-A29478-A783-E.jpg Yes, but you need to move to a free state. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2022 12:03:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Yes, but you need to move to a free state. I do….  Waiting on my kid to turn 18, then off to the races!
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Posted: 6/2/2022 12:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmywhispers: Am I doing this right? https://i.ibb.co/1GxfhKb/520-E57-A7-389-D-4-B7-D-844-F-4-CA045-F81898.jpg https://i.ibb.co/x8bFqGf/F7-FAB4-B0-1070-41-D8-A200-8-A29478-A783-E.jpg No NT4, gross. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 2:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: No NT4, gross. That pistol brace though.. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 9:13:49 PM EDT
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Pretty neat mail day. The forbidden fruit ammo should be fun.
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:55:59 PM EDT
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How many bucks a round was that?
"I had to take a second mortgage, but I filled a magazine!" |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 12:13:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: How many bucks a round was that? "I had to take a second mortgage, but I filled a magazine!" Not too much more than factory 77 grainers in the current market. for whatever reason the online groups seem to be flooded with it for reasonable prices. it's still the shoot a few for giggles and stash the rest type. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 1:48:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Pretty neat mail day. The forbidden fruit ammo should be fun. https://i.imgur.com/7ERk22q.jpg 
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Posted: 6/3/2022 4:21:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWZ1287]
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@Combat_Diver
Was the surfire RC ever issued with the mod 0/cqbr? I'm getting ready to do my first forms 1 and 4. Was thinking about getting a socom rc2, it is going to be used on a couple different rifles. One will be the form 1 mk18 mod 0. The kac is a little bit out of my price range, but maybe I can swing it? But availability seems to be another issue. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2022 8:47:42 PM EDT
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Best place for replacement screws for the Elcan MRDs sight base?
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Posted: 6/3/2022 9:31:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang: Best place for replacement screws for the Elcan MRDs sight base? I'll bet Armament Tech can get you some or point you in the right direction. I don't see them on the list but they're related to ELCAN, I just don't remember how. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2022 8:53:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'll bet Armament Tech can get you some or point you in the right direction. I don't see them on the list but they're related to ELCAN, I just don't remember how. Thanks Squirell. I will check them out. |
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Posted: 6/7/2022 10:49:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kidnap_44]
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Got some old school .mil OD Nashua tape and wrapped a few mags, and cleaned.
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USA
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Posted: 6/9/2022 1:06:37 AM EDT
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Maybe someone can help me here.
I seem to remember some discussion in one of the clone threads about sending salty, used Elcans in for repairs. Apparently my google-fu sucks and no amount of word salad brings the boys to the yard when trying to find where this was discussed. Anybody happen to remember this and know where I might find these discussions? |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 2:00:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APSArmament: Maybe someone can help me here. I seem to remember some discussion in one of the clone threads about sending salty, used Elcans in for repairs. Apparently my google-fu sucks and no amount of word salad brings the boys to the yard when trying to find where this was discussed. Anybody happen to remember this and know where I might find these discussions? Contact Armament Tech. They will send you a label, you ship it to Canada, they fix it for I think $250?, and they'll send it back to you. I don't think they'll confiscate if it's an SU-230 either. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:57:34 AM EDT
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Looking for a mint condition tanodized kac 99051. Please message if you have one.
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