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Posted: 5/26/2020 7:37:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2020 7:39:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GHOS7]
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glitch
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Posted: 5/26/2020 11:01:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Nope, Groups should be retaining them. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By GHOS7: Safe to assume we're going to see some surplus RISIIs on the market in the near future? Nope, Groups should be retaining them. CD Aren't most/all weapons parts/components still coded for destruction? Yeah, some pieces may sneak out but when it's turn-in time they go to CPT Crunch. |
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Posted: 5/26/2020 11:52:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Aren't most/all weapons parts/components still coded for destruction? Yeah, some pieces may sneak out but when it's turn-in time they go to CPT Crunch. These should be retained and not for turn in, is my understanding. CD |
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Posted: 5/27/2020 2:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: These should be retained and not for turn in, is my understanding. CD So if I understand how it works, at unit (or higher level), these get stashed away as hand-me-down spares? |
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Posted: 5/27/2020 2:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: So if I understand how it works, at unit (or higher level), these get stashed away as hand-me-down spares? Could be that they were purchased with unit funds, meaning the unit retains them. Or that they were purchased with USSOCOM money so USSOCOM decides the disposition, i.e. destroy, retain, sell as surplus, etc... Or they are just hanging on to them in case there are problems with the new fielded system. Big Army doesn't like having spare or extra weapon parts laying around (pilferage) so stuff gets turned in and is either put back into the supply system, refurbished, or destroyed. |
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Posted: 5/27/2020 3:37:40 PM EDT
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In contrast to Big Army’s concern about pilferage, Air Force armorers have to deal with hind-tit funding practically forever. At least in the past, if they could find a place to store parts, they would generally keep them. And put ‘em on an equipment custodian’s account, so some new guy would have to physically inventory them when the previous guy rotated out.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2020 12:29:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/443802/40729-wack_jpg-1433351.JPG *Pistol Brace Posts* *Clone Inspired Posts* *"I'm new here, is it okay to use a BCM Upper?" Posts* *"Look at how dirty my gun is" posts* |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 1:05:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PingRing774: *"I'm new here, is it okay to use a BCM Upper?" Posts* Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PingRing774: Originally Posted By GHOS7: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/443802/40729-wack_jpg-1433351.JPG *"I'm new here, is it okay to use a BCM Upper?" Posts* My upper is clone correct, but is it ok to use a BCM handguard? 
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Posted: 5/29/2020 3:39:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
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Mine has a bcm grip and fde stock so.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:22:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GHOS7]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PingRing774: *Pistol Brace Posts* *Clone Inspired Posts* *"I'm new here, is it okay to use a BCM Upper?" Posts* *"Look at how dirty my gun is" posts* I was totally guilty of one of these before I put my big boy pants on. Oh, the dark ages of ignorance haunts me so. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2020 5:42:20 PM EDT
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I’m looking for info on the Ris marked receiver. Any know who can duplicate this? Is it painted on or etched? https://imgur.com/a/AKLwJIg
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2020 6:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 135Patriots]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H538: I'm looking for info on the Ris marked receiver. Any know who can duplicate this? Is it painted on or etched? https://imgur.com/a/AKLwJIg  ETA I forgot that I had posted it previously. Was extremely confused for a minute there.  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2020 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Ok I have a question and forgive me if it has been asked and answered in any one of the 841 pages of this thread. I’m curious as to how us armorers and armories went about converting block I weapons to block II’s. Specifically those rifles with socom fsb barrels. Did they simply remove the fsb’s and install the mk12 gas block over the existing taper pin slots? Or did they use brand new barrels for all the conversions? I ask because I have a socom barrel that is missing the original fsb yet it has the taper pin slots in the barrel. I want to make sure it’s at least situationally, technically and categorically correct. I have considered ridding myself of this barrel but if they converted fsb barrels to the non fsb version of the block II rifle I will keep it and simply dimple the barrel and add a mk12 gas block. All help appreciated and god bless you all.
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Posted: 5/30/2020 11:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MobileGuerrilla: Ok I have a question and forgive me if it has been asked and answered in any one of the 841 pages of this thread. I’m curious as to how us armorers and armories went about converting block I weapons to block II’s. Specifically those rifles with socom fsb barrels. Did they simply remove the fsb’s and install the mk12 gas block over the existing taper pin slots? Or did they use brand new barrels for all the conversions? I ask because I have a socom barrel that is missing the original fsb yet it has the taper pin slots in the barrel. I want to make sure it’s at least situationally, technically and categorically correct. I have considered ridding myself of this barrel but if they converted fsb barrels to the non fsb version of the block II rifle I will keep it and simply dimple the barrel and add a mk12 gas block. All help appreciated and god bless you all. Two ways. If RIS II FSB, remove FSB and reinstall. If RIS II without, use mew barrel from Crane that had removed FSB and dimpled barrel. New FN SOCOM comes dimpled and no FSB CD |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 11:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Two ways. If RIS II FSB, remove FSB and reinstall. If RIS II without, use mew barrel from Crane that had removed FSB and dimpled barrel. New FN SOCOM comes dimpled and no FSB CD I love the FN barrels. Wish I could find one with the fsb though. |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 9:30:05 PM EDT
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Ok here is a dumb question. What ammo do you primarily use in your block II clones? I am looking at splitting a case with some people and cant decide. I thought about m855, m193, and iwi mk262 clone. Ik the guys dont want to go with the mk262 as it is double the price of the others.
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Posted: 5/31/2020 9:31:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JLAudio]
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wrong thread, LOL
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2020 10:17:14 PM EDT
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Greetings,
What is the correct barrel profile to use for a Clone that uses FSP RIS ii? RA |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 10:29:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RA707: Greetings, What is the correct barrel profile to use for a Clone that uses FSP RIS ii? RA Most are SOCOM barrels since they took newer M4A1 rifles and added the rail. |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 10:29:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RA707: Greetings, What is the correct barrel profile to use for a Clone that uses FSP RIS ii? RA Most of the FSP guns had SOCOM barrels IIRC, the RIS II FSP was added to existing M4A1s. ETA: too slow |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 10:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: wrong thread, LOL How is it wrong thread as it pertains to the block II and I am wondering what everyone is running in theirs. |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 10:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Ok here is a dumb question. What ammo do you primarily use in your block II clones? I am looking at splitting a case with some people and cant decide. I thought about m855, m193, and iwi mk262 clone. Ik the guys dont want to go with the mk262 as it is double the price of the others. I personally use M855 and Mk318 Mod 0. Reason is because trajectory and zero are virtually identical. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Most are SOCOM barrels since they took newer M4A1 rifles and added the rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Most are SOCOM barrels since they took newer M4A1 rifles and added the rail. Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Most of the FSP guns had SOCOM barrels IIRC, the RIS II FSP was added to existing M4A1s. ETA: too slow Thanks for the info. Now, time to find one. Hmmm |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:44:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RA707: Thanks for the info. Now, time to find one. Hmmm CDNN had some remington defense SOCOM barrels. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 5:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akguy1985: CDNN had some remington defense SOCOM barrels. Had. They only have the 11.5 now |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 5:58:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Had. They only have the 11.5 now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By akguy1985: CDNN had some remington defense SOCOM barrels. Had. They only have the 11.5 now MENNIES CONTRACT SOCOM BBLS |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:59:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThanks for the link. Just picked one up for my Block II FSP build. Why not, seems like a decent barrel. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: > seems like a decent barrel. Should be. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:33:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Thanks for the link. Just picked one up for my Block II FSP build. Why not, seems like a decent barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Thanks for the link. Just picked one up for my Block II FSP build. Why not, seems like a decent barrel. Yes, thank you. I did the same at the price point. Cheers! |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 2:07:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dominion21]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Knew I had posted this before..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5897_jpg-1201491.JPG CD I have one of these on my Form1 Carl Gustav. If you are looking for one, they are for sale here (the seller does not realize or understand what he has for sale): https://whatacountry.com/germanjungnerrangefinder.aspx |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 11:45:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Knew I had posted this before..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5897_jpg-1201491.JPG CD |
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Posted: 6/3/2020 4:45:18 PM EDT
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This might sound stupid but what are yall using for a gb when cloning block II's with fsb socom barrels? Just trim the fsb or move forward with the mk12 gb and an open taper pin slot.
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Posted: 6/3/2020 4:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elchingoton13: This might sound stupid but what are yall using for a gb when cloning block II's with fsb socom barrels? Just trim the fsb or move forward with the mk12 gb and an open taper pin slot. The issued Gov barrel Block II URGs leave the front taper pin hole exposed. The issued SOCOM barrel Block II URGs use a never had a FSB installed FN barrel. |
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Posted: 6/3/2020 6:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elchingoton13: This might sound stupid but what are yall using for a gb when cloning block II's with fsb socom barrels? Just trim the fsb or move forward with the mk12 gb and an open taper pin slot. I shaved mine down. It doesn’t bother me. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 12:33:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elchingoton13: This might sound stupid but what are yall using for a gb when cloning block II's with fsb socom barrels? Just trim the fsb or move forward with the mk12 gb and an open taper pin slot. Also depends on your handguard. KAC M4A1 RIS II with FSB slot keeps the FSB. However, there are a few with shaved down FSBs. KAC M4A1 RIS II without FSB slot, if barrel has FSB it gets removed, barrel dimpled and low profile gas cylinder installed (same NSN as Mk12s). If barrel doesn't have FSB such as FN SOCOM or Crane Govt profile with dimples, just install gas cylinder/block. CD |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 10:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is an actual military issue barrel? never heard of them |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 10:26:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: That is an actual military issue barrel? never heard of them Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: That is an actual military issue barrel? never heard of them Contract overruns. No idea why delivery was not made. If it were any other vendor selling them, I'd be on board. DTT =bad karma for me. Swore them off years ago. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 6:31:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2020 8:49:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Contract overruns. No idea why delivery was not made. If it were any other vendor selling them, I'd be on board. DTT =bad karma for me. Swore them off years ago. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:28:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2020 11:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By white-rhyno: New to me Elcan today https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/361927/IMG_20200606_175613_jpg-1450192.JPG Elcan looks nice! |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 2:06:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2020 8:42:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2020 10:18:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: https://i.imgur.com/elsYn8c.jpg NOW THATS BUILD. Its so ugly it's beautiful. It's a statement against rack queen clones. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Finally got mine put together
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Posted: 6/11/2020 12:01:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11b4v]
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Need everybody’s help in locating a 553 / SU-231 FDE hood. Have this black hood to trade.
Could also use a recommendation on a cerakote color/mix. 11b4v Before paint removed  Attached FileAfter paint removed  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:57:39 PM EDT
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Anyone have an FDE Elcan they need to get rid of ?
I sold off all my unused optics and finally decided to try one. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:17:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11b4v: Need everybody’s help in locating a 553 / SU-231 FDE hood. Have this black hood to trade. Could also use a recommendation on a cerakote color/mix. 11b4v Before paint removed https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/778/5A1157F1-34C5-4DB7-B789-075C0514D0BE_jpe-1457978.JPG After paint removed https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/778/A192BB47-FE85-474B-BF4B-ED00654EB908_jpe-1457980.JPG  Attached File |
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