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Posted: 11/29/2018 6:09:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Core:
I really prefer a RISII FSP setup, but shaving it and saving some front end weight is not only practical but tactical. It's funny to hear cloners complain about the guns being ugly and not refined enough in the wild.  God help us.. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 6:09:47 PM EDT
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Glitch
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Posted: 11/29/2018 6:10:21 PM EDT
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Glitch
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ME, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2018 12:49:44 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Cloning is very much about aesthetics (for me anyway), We often use parts that we may not prefer simply because of the aesthetics of the build. If it's not aesthetically pleasing, I'd rather do a non-clone. NSW: 
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Posted: 11/30/2018 6:00:29 AM EDT
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:14:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Core:
I really prefer a RISII FSP setup, but shaving it and saving some front end weight is not only practical but tactical. It's funny to hear cloners complain about the guns being ugly and not refined enough in the wild. God help us..
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:55:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: That gaping hole has neither function or form. I get why it could happen in real life, I just can't imagine ever owning an abomination like that. And we (collectively) have cloned much dumber things than that; cloning an FSB-rail/non-FSB barrel would give you something unique back in the world and something probably only ever seen (in any numbers) in theater. If I would have had an FSB to cut down, I probably would have cut it down and then cloned it back in the world because it would have represented my carry gun on one of my bes deployments ever. So use your imagination! |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:59:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret: #fspmasterrace 
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4169/33934527053_1318b333c1_c.jpg SortaCloney1 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4168/34358925700_5ef8e2fec9_c.jpg SortaCloney2 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr * Who knew? (this would goon for so long) |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2018 10:13:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: I am really, really pissed I didn't pick up a few of those rugs during some of my early tours; I thought about getting one made for every year I was here, but what would I do with 13* of the damn things? * Who knew? (this would goon for so long) Saved a 12-13 for the LNK deployment (it literally has both years on it; standard AFG edjumication i spose) and an 09 for the BAF one, then the 9/11 and tora boras were found at the bottom of the pile. Quite dusty, I'm assuming they were just never bought. Then a really cool dude (whom I believe is on this board, though it was through another that is now a far cry from what it used to be) also snagged me one totally different from others I'd ever seen, and that one's probably my favorite. I dig that they're all unique and different in subtle ways. |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 8:28:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5959_jpg-755911.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5965_jpg-755912.JPG CD What's the story here CD? See alot of these? What all are you seeing from them downrange? Upper receivers exclusively, or other components as well? |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 8:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: You're sitting in Afghanistan, hate looking at your FSB through your optic, voila: shave the FSB! And we (collectively) have cloned much dumber things than that; cloning an FSB-rail/non-FSB barrel would give you something unique back in the world and something probably only ever seen (in any numbers) in theater. If I would have had an FSB to cut down, I probably would have cut it down and then cloned it back in the world because it would have represented my carry gun on one of my bes deployments ever. So use your imagination! |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 8:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
MANUFACTURING SUPPORT INDUSTRIES . What's the story here CD? See alot of these? What all are you seeing from them downrange? Upper receivers exclusively, or other components as well? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5959_jpg-755911.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5965_jpg-755912.JPG CD What's the story here CD? See alot of these? What all are you seeing from them downrange? Upper receivers exclusively, or other components as well? |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:06:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Full auto ambi safeties as well. (Exact same as the colt 1 long arm 1 short arm) |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:10:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Thought I saw lpgbs from them in another post too? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Full auto ambi safeties as well. (Exact same as the colt 1 long arm 1 short arm) |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:14:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Could be them as well I forget. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Full auto ambi safeties as well. (Exact same as the colt 1 long arm 1 short arm) Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Cylinder, Gas Gun Cage Code 9K646, Coronet Machinery Corp in Bethel CT NSN 1005-01-597-1170 Its the same for the Mk12 gas block that everyone calls a DD Mk12 gas block but I've never seen their cage code on them. Have never seen any identifying marks on them either. CD |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2018 4:40:21 PM EDT
[#16]
I figured I'd give the thread a little bump... as if it needs it... but... As it sits my build budget has been shot to sh*t. Lots of unexpected stuff came up like my over time got cut and another nasty surprise sprung on me by my meth head ex wife that never seems to go away. I'm taking a different build direction. Same end results, but instead of buying a LE6920, I'll probably just be getting lower and building the gun myself so I can piece it together more slowly. The goal being to get the lower before WA's new gun laws come into effect. Not that it will probably help me much other than circumventing the new waiting period on semi-autos and I wont have to pay the new taxes on semi-autos.... but hey... I tried. In the end this just pushing the build time line back quite a bit, but I will proceed with it and end up with a bad ass SOPMOD Block II.
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Posted: 12/1/2018 4:52:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Optiskate76:
I figured I'd give the thread a little bump... as if it needs it... but... As it sits my build budget has been shot to sh*t. Lots of unexpected stuff came up like my over time got cut and another nasty surprise sprung on me by my meth head ex wife that never seems to go away. I'm taking a different build direction. Same end results, but instead of buying a LE6920, I'll probably just be getting lower and building the gun myself so I can piece it together more slowly. The goal being to get the lower before WA's new gun laws come into effect. Not that it will probably help me much other than circumventing the new waiting period on semi-autos and I wont have to pay the new taxes on semi-autos.... but hey... I tried. In the end this just pushing the build time line back quite a bit, but I will proceed with it and end up with a bad ass SOPMOD Block II. http://i64.tinypic.com/2a4wlt0.jpg Definitely get the lower next. You could snag a Colt lower off the EE, or just snag a poverty pony A2 lower for $40. As long as its an A2 lower it will suffice here. And good luck with the methbilly ex wife. May many fucks be upon her |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2018 5:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
At least you already have 2 of the most expensive parts. That is a good start. Definitely get the lower next. You could snag a Colt lower off the EE, or just snag a poverty pony A2 lower for $40. As long as its an A2 lower it will suffice here. And good luck with the methbilly ex wife. May many fucks be upon her |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 3:03:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/2/2018 3:10:12 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Range day https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6032_jpg-758072.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6035_jpg-758073.JPG CD 
Love that B2. |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 3:19:00 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Love that B2. CD |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 3:29:11 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Just rebarreled that B2 this week so time for function test and zero. Owner very happy with the performance and accuracy. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Love that B2. CD
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NE, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2018 11:48:05 AM EDT
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Looking at the Vortex Razor 1-6, what reticle is recommended?
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AR, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2018 12:50:28 PM EDT
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These rail covers are pretty nice
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Posted: 12/2/2018 1:50:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762hunter2:
These rail covers are pretty nice
https://i.imgur.com/jl6zLXo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I1kXhy1.jpg I didn’t need three, but I figured I could trade them at some point. They even sent me a bore snake and an accuwedge. Guys like to hate on the accuwedge, but it is useful for removing slop in receivers, even if it serves no purpose other than removing the annoying play. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2018 6:00:43 PM EDT
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Having some fun out to 500y with the ATACR. Excuse the can (for this day's shooting).
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2018 7:21:47 PM EDT
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So, I recently sold my NSW Recce Upper and NF x24, due to not wanting to purchase an AEM5 (didn't want two 5.56 cans, and the AEM is heavy and long).
I've got an Elcan, PEQ15, MRDS, 14.5 SOCOM bbl and M4A1 RIS II coming, so looks like I'm jumping back into a Block II M4. Kicking myself in the ass for selling an extra Surefire 4 prong I had awhile back. Would anyone happen to have a lead on one? |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 9:51:52 PM EDT
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I’ve been hip deep in Mk18 world for a while so my Block II’s haven’t gotten much range time. By total accident it seems based on C-D’s info that my uppers are “correct”. My FSB is a SOCOM barrel and my non-FSB is an M4 profile. Both are Colt uppers and original Colt 14.5’s. I’ve sent the non-FSB back to ADCO to have a Surefire SF3P put on (originality had an AAC mount) and I need to get the FSB in yet. Here’s the non-FSB from earlier this year enjoying some sun:
I need to get the FSB off to ADCO (along with my Block 1.5) and get the old 18t AAC mounts replaced. Still have the old can just have better (definitely more clone correct) options now. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2018 1:37:53 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Range day https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6032_jpg-758072.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6035_jpg-758073.JPG CD |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:08:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwill:
Did the Army ever get an M9A1's or is it just M9's? (along with G19s and the occasional old 1911) CD |
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MB, CAN
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:12:19 PM EDT
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Cool day, hot barrels. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:20:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/20181202_154342_zps9myydxra.jpg Cool day, hot barrels.
JK. I see the selector position
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Posted: 12/3/2018 3:37:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ehudbengera]
[#33]
Does anyone know if the Vortex Razor 1-6x has an NSN and if so what it is?
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OR, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 12:32:18 AM EDT
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Excuse the potato cell phone pics.
Got a chance to play with an Elcan for a few days. Now I'm suffering a crippling bout of indecision as to whether I should try to sell the ACOG to fund an Elcan. I know, I know - go be poor somewhere else. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 12:49:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Does anyone know if the Vortex Razor 1-6x has an NSN and if so what it is? |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 7:47:28 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwill:
Excuse the potato cell phone pics. https://i.imgur.com/Zd77ShR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BzcmB24.jpg Got a chance to play with an Elcan for a few days. Now I'm suffering a crippling bout of indecision as to whether I should try to sell the ACOG to fund an Elcan. I know, I know - go be poor somewhere else. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 9:51:04 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
What charging handle is that? |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 10:55:39 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Not likely. It isn't Berry Compliant. Granted thats obviously not the be all end all of acquisitions but given the number of options out there that ARE..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Does anyone know if the Vortex Razor 1-6x has an NSN and if so what it is? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 1:15:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera: Ha, the second most common optics in the U.S. Military behind ACOGs are Aimpoints made in Sweden. Methinks you don't understand what the Berry Amendment is. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 3:13:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
What charging handle is that? |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 4:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
I'm well familiar with it. Sweden is on the list of approved countries to source military gear from. China/indonesia/whatever asian sweatshop vortex claims to use isn't. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera: Ha, the second most common optics in the U.S. Military behind ACOGs are Aimpoints made in Sweden. Methinks you don't understand what the Berry Amendment is. The Razor is made in Japan by/for/with an American company. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 4:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Berry applies to clothing, textiles, tools, stuff like that. Not weaponry. The Razor is made in Japan by/for/with an American company. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera: Ha, the second most common optics in the U.S. Military behind ACOGs are Aimpoints made in Sweden. Methinks you don't understand what the Berry Amendment is. The Razor is made in Japan by/for/with an American company. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 4:45:27 PM EDT
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The Berry Amendment (USC, Title 10, Section 2533a), requires the Department of Defense (DOD) to give preference in procurement to domestically produced, manufactured, or home-grown products, most notably food, clothing, fabrics, and specialty metals. Congress originally passed domestic source restrictions as part of the 1941 Fifth Supplemental DOD Appropriations Act in order to protect the domestic industrial base in the time of war.
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Posted: 12/5/2018 6:08:26 PM EDT
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OT, but gotta like this page number.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 6:51:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebomber:
OT, but gotta like this page number. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 6:52:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera: Berry applies to clothing, textiles, tools, stuff like that. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 7:07:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
IIRC there is a SOCOM specific model that SOCOM uses. I forget what the difference is but I want to say its something in the turrets. Not sure if it has an NSN but @GS5414 knows the answer to both of those things Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera: Ha, the second most common optics in the U.S. Military behind ACOGs are Aimpoints made in Sweden. Methinks you don't understand what the Berry Amendment is. The Razor is made in Japan by/for/with an American company. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 7:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Thanks, hopefully he responds. I've seen too many of them in the wild to all be privately purchased. It is certainly possible that they were purchased with unit funds and don't have an NSN. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera: Ha, the second most common optics in the U.S. Military behind ACOGs are Aimpoints made in Sweden. Methinks you don't understand what the Berry Amendment is. The Razor is made in Japan by/for/with an American company. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2018 8:02:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Recce_Gear]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
IIRC there is a SOCOM specific model that SOCOM uses. I forget what the difference is but I want to say its something in the turrets. Not sure if it has an NSN but @GS5414 knows the answer to both of those things |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2018 1:14:09 AM EDT
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My M4A1 SOPMOD Block II inspired build.
 20181208_095442 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
 20181208_095524 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
 20181208_095553 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
 20181208_095621 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
It is: • Brownells DD M4A1 SOPMOD Block II upper pin/welded @14.7" by ADCO • Spikes Snowflake lower • Aero Precision mil spec bolt assy • RRA parts kit w/two stage match trigger • Knights M4 front sight, Matech rear • Eotech XPS2-2 • Streamlight TLR-1HL • KNS anti rotation pins • Blue Force Gear Vickers sling & sling keepers • B5 Bravo stock It was on a budget...but should serve the purpose well. |
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