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Link Posted: 6/23/2022 11:13:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By revottuneda4:
So…I probably already know the answer to this, but, let’s say you have the ability to pick up an AEM5 for MSRP, but you already have an OCM5 in jail, do you buy the AEM5 too?
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AEM5 is an excellent can. OCM5 is a little quieter, lighter, and prettier welds. Both are good to have. Only one is clone correct.
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 1:37:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cheekibreeki:

AEM5 is an excellent can. OCM5 is a little quieter, lighter, and prettier welds. Both are good to have. Only one is clone correct.
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OPS, Inc.
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 1:41:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:


OPS, Inc.
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unfortunately
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 1:52:50 PM EDT
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For the seasoned Mk12 vets....if it's not an Ops Inc manufactured and marked can, which of the clones would you go with?
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 2:43:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
For the seasoned Mk12 vets....if it's not an Ops Inc manufactured and marked can, which of the clones would you go with?
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For clone correctness that you can buy and not form 1,

Ops Inc
Allen Engineering
Otter Creek

In that order
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:


For clone correctness that you can buy and not form 1,

Ops Inc
Allen Engineering
Otter Creek

In that order
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Yup.
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 3:17:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:


Yup.
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By Yumago:


For clone correctness that you can buy and not form 1,

Ops Inc
Allen Engineering
Otter Creek

In that order


Yup.


Agree
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 4:56:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2022 7:34:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tamboi:


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Originally Posted By tamboi:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By Yumago:


For clone correctness that you can buy and not form 1,

Ops Inc
Allen Engineering
Otter Creek

In that order


Yup.


Agree


What I figured. Thanks for confirming.
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 9:03:44 PM EDT
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Got my long anticipated Mod 1 almost completely buttoned up!

Have an AEM5 pending since 10/6/21...which probably still has a few months to approve. At least I can look at this until then:





Link Posted: 6/23/2022 9:23:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gdavis8:
Got my long anticipated Mod 1 almost completely buttoned up!

Have an AEM5 pending since 10/6/21...which probably still has a few months to approve. At least I can look at this until then:

https://i.imgur.com/INzRLNv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AvNped4.jpg

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That purple lower.

Link Posted: 6/23/2022 11:11:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

That purple lower.

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Do purple FF RAS exist?
Link Posted: 6/23/2022 11:30:23 PM EDT
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https://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-aem5-mk12-suppressor.html

In stock, get them while you can! I just grabbed 2
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 7:00:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RedFox1911:


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Originally Posted By RedFox1911:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

That purple lower.

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Do purple FF RAS exist?

Yes
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 7:01:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
https://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-aem5-mk12-suppressor.html

In stock, get them while you can! I just grabbed 2
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Of course you did.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 7:14:12 AM EDT
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AEM5s now OOS at Cap Armory
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 7:48:05 AM EDT
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Can’t believe I missed out.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 7:51:13 AM EDT
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Still shows in stock for me...
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 8:05:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK3110:
Still shows in stock for me...
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Select knurled in the drop down at the bottom and try to add it to your cart.

Pop up in red letters saying OOS.

Guessing they just haven't updated their website to show OOS and the ability to sign up for an alert if/when they come back.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 8:36:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Select knurled in the drop down at the bottom and try to add it to your cart.

Pop up in red letters saying OOS.

Guessing they just haven't updated their website to show OOS and the ability to sign up for an alert if/when they come back.
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Thanks, I’m a dunce.

If you missed out maybe reach out to Adco. Seems like they are working thru their waitlist and may have some available.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 9:12:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK3110:


Thanks, I’m a dunce.

If you missed out maybe reach out to Adco. Seems like they are working thru their waitlist and may have some available.
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Originally Posted By MK3110:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Select knurled in the drop down at the bottom and try to add it to your cart.

Pop up in red letters saying OOS.

Guessing they just haven't updated their website to show OOS and the ability to sign up for an alert if/when they come back.


Thanks, I’m a dunce.

If you missed out maybe reach out to Adco. Seems like they are working thru their waitlist and may have some available.


I kept putting one in my cart yesterday after a couple folks PM'd me the link....but I couldn't justify dropping an extra grand this month on gun stuff as our fun money got absorbed by vet bills and plane tickets to go see family later this summer.

Being older and responsible sucks
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 12:04:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


I kept putting one in my cart yesterday after a couple folks PM'd me the link....but I couldn't justify dropping an extra grand this month on gun stuff as our fun money got absorbed by vet bills and plane tickets to go see family later this summer.

Being older and responsible sucks
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By MK3110:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Select knurled in the drop down at the bottom and try to add it to your cart.

Pop up in red letters saying OOS.

Guessing they just haven't updated their website to show OOS and the ability to sign up for an alert if/when they come back.


Thanks, I’m a dunce.

If you missed out maybe reach out to Adco. Seems like they are working thru their waitlist and may have some available.


I kept putting one in my cart yesterday after a couple folks PM'd me the link....but I couldn't justify dropping an extra grand this month on gun stuff as our fun money got absorbed by vet bills and plane tickets to go see family later this summer.

Being older and responsible sucks


Don’t worry. I was financially irresponsible for you. Placed my order this morning.

I think I need to make another rifle now that I’ll have basically two of the same cans.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 12:32:23 PM EDT
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Damn I missed it

I finally have the money and I missed it
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 12:36:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK3110:


Thanks, I'm a dunce.

If you missed out maybe reach out to Adco. Seems like they are working thru their waitlist and may have some available.
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Adco?
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 12:53:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Damn I missed it

I finally have the money and I missed it
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How often do these come in stock? I have money but didn't bother.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 12:58:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup:



How often do these come in stock? I have money but didn't bother.
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Not often I believe
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 1:22:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/24/2022 6:28:31 PM EDT
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I just "found" 1K of LC brass in the bottom of closet I got like 10+ years ago. Anyone care to share a sure fire load for 77gr SMK or 69'rs with me? PM if you don't want to put out there. I get it.

Link Posted: 6/24/2022 6:40:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
I just "found" 1K of LC brass in the bottom of closet I got like 10+ years ago. Anyone care to share a sure fire load for 77gr SMK or 69'rs with me? PM if you don't want to put out there. I get it.

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23.5gn of xbr 8208. Some people work up to 24.0. Work up, not liable, etc.. as always.

Eta: 77smk
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 6:46:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
I just "found" 1K of LC brass in the bottom of closet I got like 10+ years ago. Anyone care to share a sure fire load for 77gr SMK or 69'rs with me? PM if you don't want to put out there. I get it.

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It depends on your barrel and what other components you're going to be able to find or already have.

There is a reloading section that just had this topic:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Powders-for-77gr-SMK-/42-534580/


Personally I just use Accurate 2520, because I was able to get a bunch and it's reasonable precise if the rest of your variables are controlled.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 8:43:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
I just "found" 1K of LC brass in the bottom of closet I got like 10+ years ago. Anyone care to share a sure fire load for 77gr SMK or 69'rs with me? PM if you don't want to put out there. I get it.

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Like others will tell ya, depends on your barrel and there are a ton of threads on it that would be more appropriate for exact results and methods.

FWIW : 24.0 grains with a 2.250 COAL put me at 2715 fps. I went a little under matching the black hills 2750 because when I got exacts on crimp amount and head spacing, I was under 1/2” with 10 round group. Where I’m going with that, there’s a lot more to it than shoving powder in a case.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:07:51 PM EDT
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Thanks y'all. Good info for sure.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:28:21 PM EDT
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Just ordered a AEM 5, I guess i need a MK12 now. Mod 0 or Mod H? Leaning toward Mod H i think
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:31:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Just ordered a AEM 5, I guess i need a MK12 now. Mod 0 or Mod H? Leaning toward Mod H i think
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Both

And a Mod 1
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:34:04 PM EDT
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A few for photo Friday

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:40:00 PM EDT
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Heading out to pick up my OCM5 tomorrow, my E-file came back and might have a Mod H coming back with me seeing as I haven't been able to build my Mod 1 yet that I bought the can for.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:45:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:
A few for photo Friday

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20220514_151809_2_jpg-2429856.JPG
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that top lower with that bottom upper
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:45:40 PM EDT
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Both

And a Mod 1
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Link Posted: 6/24/2022 10:46:51 PM EDT
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what barrel do i need to start looking for though?
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 11:05:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Both

And a Mod 1

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Link Posted: 6/24/2022 11:06:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Just ordered a AEM 5, I guess i need a MK12 now. Mod 0 or Mod H? Leaning toward Mod H i think
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NSW Recce. I hit 1160 yds this weekend out of a 15.1” barrel this past weekend.
Link Posted: 6/24/2022 11:14:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

that top lower with that bottom upper
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:
A few for photo Friday

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20220514_151809_2_jpg-2429856.JPG

that top lower with that bottom upper


I've often thought about swapping them around.  In particular when I took the A1 stock off the mod 1.  But then I remember it's summer in Texas and the garage is misery, so I wind up telling myself that I'll get around to it later.  .  Most likely will get another GM lower sometime to replace the BRN the H currently sits on.

Eta: I really like the Socom stock.  It's been Jerry rigged in place so it doesn't adjust.  Thing is rock solid and it lines me up perfectly for the scope.  Yet another couple hard to find items a particular someone on this forum helped me with.  I honestly haven't tried a Sopmod stock with the H yet.  I ran a CTR prior to getting the Socom and just haven't tried a diff stock since./shrug
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 7:12:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:

23.5gn of xbr 8208. Some people work up to 24.0. Work up, not liable, etc.. as always.

Eta: 77smk
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
I just "found" 1K of LC brass in the bottom of closet I got like 10+ years ago. Anyone care to share a sure fire load for 77gr SMK or 69'rs with me? PM if you don't want to put out there. I get it.


23.5gn of xbr 8208. Some people work up to 24.0. Work up, not liable, etc.. as always.

Eta: 77smk


This. 23-24gr of 8208 under a 75-77gr OTM is money.
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 7:13:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Just ordered a AEM 5, I guess i need a MK12 now. Mod 0 or Mod H? Leaning toward Mod H i think
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From Cap Armory or somewhere else?
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 10:50:41 AM EDT
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I got mine at adco
Link Posted: 6/25/2022 12:31:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Both

And a Mod 1
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Just ordered a AEM 5, I guess i need a MK12 now. Mod 0 or Mod H? Leaning toward Mod H i think

Both

And a Mod 1


This. The master plan.

Dan
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 6:17:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firejareen] [#47]
It's been a while but here are my four for you guys.  All parts correct.  One Ops Inc and one Allen Engineering.  The Mod 1 is a clone of a MOH Recipient shooters rifle I saw and wanted to build.  I have the Versa-Pod for the Early Mod 0, and Harris for the other two, then an Atlas for the Mod H.  Douglas Barrels with screw flats for the front sight/gas block screws on the 18" guns.  These are years old with the exception of the Mod H which I built sometime in the last ten.  The Mod 0 Late has KNS pins on the lower as they would walk when switched over.  The Mod H has a Gen 2 (wrong) butt stock in this photo but now has the correct Gen 1 Stock on it.

Link Posted: 6/26/2022 6:48:23 PM EDT
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What tan paint was used back then or what do y’all do?  I like that black worn through tan look.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 8:05:01 PM EDT
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What tan paint was used back then or what do y’all do?  I like that black worn through tan look.
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KG Gunkote (can't remember the number for the tan off top of my head).  

If rattle can, Krylon or Rustoleum khaki will do it.  The Krylon khaki is a tad brighter than the rustoleum, but it won't matter if you do a very light shade (basically like overspray) of dark earth brown or forest green over it.  The overspray method really helps darken down the khaki while also blending in other colors.

I think some tan SPR's were done with the KG Gunkote though.  Hunterex would know the specific part number of it I'm sure.  He told me recently and I wrote it down instead of putting it in my phone

ETA: OG SPR's that were done in Gunkote were FML tan.  And they look fantastic.
Link Posted: 6/26/2022 10:07:40 PM EDT
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Anyone got any safe queens with a kac ras on it that they want to unload to a home where it will get used a lot? I just wanna build a NSW recce and just need a dumb rail.  Not looking to build multiple 18” guns here.

Buy or may even be willing to deal a trade with an AEM5 (@ MSRP values) or possibly some wingless arms accessories off my personal Mod 0 that I’ve never seen on this sight but a few times and to the right connoisseur.

Feel free to DM me if so and we can chat.
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