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Posted: 5/16/2020 7:12:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Hey gents, were any A1 lowers used on Mk 12 Mod 1s used by the USMC?
Also as a curiosity question unrelated to my build, have any partial slab side or slab sides lowers (like on the XM16E1) ever been seen on any Mk 12s in the wild? It seems like it could have been possible. Thank you! 
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Posted: 5/16/2020 8:49:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coejro]
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A1 lowers were used and are clone correct for the USMC MK12 Mod 1. No idea on the slab side or partial fence lowers.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 8:59:35 PM EDT
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Not mine but clone correct glass for sale.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/New-Old-Stock-Leupold-2-5-8x36-Illum-Mil-Dot-Mk12-Mod-Holland/163-1998884/ |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 10:39:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg: Not mine but clone correct glass for sale. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/New-Old-Stock-Leupold-2-5-8x36-Illum-Mil-Dot-Mk12-Mod-Holland/163-1998884/ Dat price tho 
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Posted: 5/16/2020 10:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Dat price tho  |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 2:48:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: I know that's insane Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By WTFShane: Dat price tho Isn't that about what they are going for these days? I'm trying to find a 67920 vs. that one which is a 60150. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:11:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA-Minuteman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdavis: Isn't that about what they are going for these days? I'm trying to find a 67920 vs. that one which is a 60150. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:41:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: I know that's insane Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By WTFShane: Dat price tho I've done business with a bunch of dudes in this thread and have always been open to offers. The older style illumination housings are the only correct scopes for the Mk12, and the turrets aren't being sold anymore. The slab sided, tethered battery cap scopes (which weren't used on Mk12s) sold for more when they were new and available. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:54:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: I've done business with a bunch of dudes in this thread and have always been open to offers. The older style illumination housings are the only correct scopes for the Mk12, and the turrets aren't being sold anymore. The slab sided, tethered batter cap scopes (which weren't used on Mk12s) sold for more when they were new and available. Your price seems right. I had a Mk4 3.5-10x40 sku 53672 for $1300 and probably it would have sold for that but I hooked some one up in here for their MK12 Mod0 build. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: I've done business with a bunch of dudes in this thread and have always been open to offers. The older style illumination housings are the only correct scopes for the Mk12, and the turrets aren't being sold anymore. The slab sided, tethered battery cap scopes (which weren't used on Mk12s) sold for more when they were new and available. I'm still adjusting to the price of some of these parts. The error is on my end not yours |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:58:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: I dont doubt its a good price I'm still adjusting to the price of some of these parts. The error is on my end not yours Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By usnguns: I've done business with a bunch of dudes in this thread and have always been open to offers. The older style illumination housings are the only correct scopes for the Mk12, and the turrets aren't being sold anymore. The slab sided, tethered battery cap scopes (which weren't used on Mk12s) sold for more when they were new and available. I'm still adjusting to the price of some of these parts. The error is on my end not yours Thanks. Anyway...back to the pics. NF all the way. 
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Posted: 5/17/2020 9:15:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: Thanks. Anyway...back to the pics. NF all the way. https://i.imgur.com/phvEz0N.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By usnguns: I've done business with a bunch of dudes in this thread and have always been open to offers. The older style illumination housings are the only correct scopes for the Mk12, and the turrets aren't being sold anymore. The slab sided, tethered battery cap scopes (which weren't used on Mk12s) sold for more when they were new and available. I'm still adjusting to the price of some of these parts. The error is on my end not yours Thanks. Anyway...back to the pics. NF all the way. https://i.imgur.com/phvEz0N.jpg I was eyeballing your 2.5-10. Luckily someone bought it before I broke down. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 8:56:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: Thanks. Anyway...back to the pics. NF all the way. https://i.imgur.com/phvEz0N.jpg Who did you MK13? I've got all my parts for mine rocked and ready to go as soon as the can gets out of jail...........in about 10 months so it would seem. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 9:27:48 AM EDT
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Anyone have any recommendations for a mounting system for the Docter Sight on top of the MK 4 like the picture shown. I know the ring cap is A.R.M.S. #22 TRC, but the flat mount below it is escaping me. Thoughts?
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:39:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns: Thanks. Anyway...back to the pics. NF all the way. https://i.imgur.com/phvEz0N.jpg Jeeeebus, that's glorious!!! 
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:41:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: Anyone have any recommendations for a mounting system for the Docter Sight on top of the MK 4 like the picture shown. I know the ring cap is A.R.M.S. #22 TRC, but the flat mount below it is escaping me. Thoughts?http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/18/Lone76.jpg A long time ago it turned out that was a cheap ncstar or bsa or airsoft mount of some kind. I haven't seen any of the photos of Matt Axelson with a Mk12 showing that setup from the movie, but it's always possible the photos of him simply were further before their fatal mission. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:07:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: A long time ago it turned out that was a cheap ncstar or bsa or airsoft mount of some kind. I haven't seen any of the photos of Matt Axelson with a Mk12 showing that setup from the movie, but it's always possible the photos of him simply were further before their fatal mission. My research suggested the same, but I figured I would raise the question anyway for perspectives's sake. I do know that Docter USA has a wingless mount for the sight. I may go with that. My thought here had less to do with replicating the Axelson rifle and more making the rifle a bit more versatile at the closer ranges. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:14:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: My research suggested the same, but I figured I would raise the question anyway for perspectives's sake. I do know that Docter USA has a wingless mount for the sight. I may go with that. My thought here had less to do with replicating the Axelson rifle and more making the rifle a bit more versatile at the closer ranges. Do consider that rear mounting the Docter like that will obscure your elevation turret. Front mounting it or doing a 45 offset from the handguard will make sure you can still see your turrets. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:24:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: Do consider that rear mounting the Docter like that will obscure your elevation turret. Front mounting it or doing a 45 offset from the handguard will make sure you can still see your turrets. That was my plan. front mounted makes more sense. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:38:27 PM EDT
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@footsoldier9th
Thanks brother! 
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Posted: 5/18/2020 3:36:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm already thinking up the paint combos you'd need to match all of those! |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 4:40:08 PM EDT
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@Dobs013
No problem, glad you were able to snag a few. Quote History |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 4:45:22 PM EDT
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What’s everyone’s opinion on stocks? Fixed or SOPMOD?
I feel like an A1 lower needs an A1 stock but being able to collapse it down for storage would be nice. And the cheek weld on the SOPMOD is much nicer. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 4:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: What’s everyone’s opinion on stocks? Fixed or SOPMOD? I feel like an A1 lower needs an A1 stock but being able to collapse it down for storage would be nice. And the cheek weld on the SOPMOD is much nicer. I think the decision really comes down to eye relief. I personally like the look of the A1 stock most, but will admit that the eye relief lacks with it. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2020 4:59:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cheekibreeki]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: What’s everyone’s opinion on stocks? Fixed or SOPMOD? I feel like an A1 lower needs an A1 stock but being able to collapse it down for storage would be nice. And the cheek weld on the SOPMOD is much nicer. I realized fixed stocks were pretty much garbage once I began practicing positional shooting with my Mk12. SOPMOD also has too much comb on it for a lot of folks, but it's alright. The dudes putting Magpul CTRs on their Mk12s were the big brain ones. I recommend people go out and do the 21 dot drill with their Mk12. Fun to find out just how right you need to balance bipod load or you'll shift your POI from the KAC rail flexing the barrel nut. Just a tad too much bipod load and it'll go almost an inch low at 100 yards. It happens against barricades too. Gotta make sure not to press very hard. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 6:54:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2020 6:56:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PerfectTurn]
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Quote HistoryNice!!  I can't get consistent or timely responses from seller, must be busy, so I'll just hold out for the HCS one I guess. I'm not much of a beggar.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 7:18:19 PM EDT
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Any of you guys want an ARMS 22 TRC? I found one downstairs that's missing at least one of the screws, and you'll need to get the TRR rail. Someone can have it for cost of shipping.
Might be some residue from water exposure as the basement flooded 18 months ago, but hey, it's aluminum, water isn't going to hurt it |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 7:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiteDingo: Any of you guys want an ARMS 22 TRC? I found one downstairs that's missing at least one of the screws, and you'll need to get the TRR rail. Someone can have it for cost of shipping. Might be some residue from water exposure as the basement flooded 18 months ago, but hey, it's aluminum, water isn't going to hurt it IM'd! |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 7:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DStepec: IM'd! Shoot.. the one time I was slow to open up this thread .. haha |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 8:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiteDingo: Any of you guys want an ARMS 22 TRC? I found one downstairs that's missing at least one of the screws, and you'll need to get the TRR rail. Someone can have it for cost of shipping. Might be some residue from water exposure as the basement flooded 18 months ago, but hey, it's aluminum, water isn't going to hurt it Damn I need some post notifications when folks are offering up the goods. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:42:33 PM EDT
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Does anyone know where to get a replacement set screw for a Mod0 collar? I have a collar but the set screw is stripped out and it looks like collars are out of stock. Any suggestions?
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Does anyone know where to get a replacement set screw for a Mod0 collar? I have a collar but the set screw is stripped out and it looks like collars are out of stock. Any suggestions? Any hardware or fastener store will have them. If you can't/don't want to take the brake off, it's a 6-32 x 1/8". |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 6:58:20 AM EDT
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Anyone know where a guy and get a set of Arms 22H without the stop?
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:04:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Anyone know where a guy and get a set of Arms 22H without the stop? |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:25:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Does anyone know where to get a replacement set screw for a Mod0 collar? I have a collar but the set screw is stripped out and it looks like collars are out of stock. Any suggestions? I drilled and tapped mine for a larger size. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:01:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mra4523]
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Question I'm fumbling with. I have decided whether or not I want to paint the entire rifle or leave it black but does anyone have any experience painting these sights or should I just try to strip the old rattle can paint? I have the front sight too thats got a little wear which is why I consider painting both at the same time.
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:13:43 AM EDT
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Should edit that out my friend, unnecessary.
If youre going to paint both, just paint over it |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:16:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Does anyone know where to get a replacement set screw for a Mod0 collar? I have a collar but the set screw is stripped out and it looks like collars are out of stock. Any suggestions? IM incoming |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:16:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: Picked up this KAC iron sight from genofromreno on gunbroker, I know he also sells on here. Guys a bit of a dick, but I got what I wanted, so I'll let it go. Question I'm fumbling with. I have decided whether or not I want to paint the entire rifle or leave it black but does anyone have any experience painting these sights or should I just try to strip the old rattle can paint? I have the front sight too thats got a little wear which is why I consider painting both at the same time. https://p1.gunbroker.com/pics/868756000/868756557/pix734748533.jpg Don't strip the old paint off that sight. Leave it off and paint your rifle, remount the sight, and use it. Eventually, the paint will match and whole rifle will have that been-there-done-that look like the sight does. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:34:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Quote HistoryQuestion I'm fumbling with. I have decided whether or not I want to paint the entire rifle or leave it black but does anyone have any experience painting these sights or should I just try to strip the old rattle can paint? I have the front sight too thats got a little wear which is why I consider painting both at the same time. Quote HistoryQuestion I'm fumbling with. I have decided whether or not I want to paint the entire rifle or leave it black but does anyone have any experience painting these sights or should I just try to strip the old rattle can paint? I have the front sight too thats got a little wear which is why I consider painting both at the same time. Originally Posted By RTUtah: Don't strip the old paint off that sight. Leave it off and paint your rifle, remount the sight, and use it. Eventually, the paint will match and whole rifle will have that been-there-done-that look like the sight does. Yes, just leave it! |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:35:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: Should edit that out my friend, unnecessary. If youre going to paint both, just paint over it Fair enough, thanks for the early morning check. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:55:10 AM EDT
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Just got off the phone with PRI talking shop about barrels - had no idea CLE turned their douglas barrels. Thought PRI turned them in house.
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:50:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Just got off the phone with PRI talking shop about barrels - had no idea CLE turned their douglas barrels. Thought PRI turned them in house. If I had known that, I might have held on to one of the several I've had. ETA - Not downing PRi with that statement at all. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:50:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
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Double tap.
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:59:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Into_the_Void]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: If I had known that, I might have hanged on to one of the several I've had. ETA - Not downing PRi with that statement at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Just got off the phone with PRI talking shop about barrels - had no idea CLE turned their douglas barrels. Thought PRI turned them in house. If I had known that, I might have hanged on to one of the several I've had. ETA - Not downing PRi with that statement at all. In the vein of this topic... Never call Bergara. Jesus Christ. "I don't know who Precision Reflex is or have any idea what you're talking about. We haven't made AR barrels in over 2 years". Call PRI back, tell them, laughter ensues. They make a really really nice barrel for the money, but obviously they don't know what the other hand is doing. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 11:39:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: In the vein of this topic... Never call Bergara. Jesus Christ. "I don't know who Precision Reflex is or have any idea what you're talking about. We haven't made AR barrels in over 2 years". Call PRI back, tell them, laughter ensues. They make a really really nice barrel for the money, but obviously they don't know what the other hand is doing. Does the Bergara barrel PRI sells have the step in the right place to use the long collar and FSB and still have the right dimensions in front of the collar? PRI doesn’t list any dimensions and is pretty short on detail altogether. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 11:49:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackson1: Does the Bergara barrel PRI sells have the step in the right place to use the long collar and FSB and still have the right dimensions in front of the collar? PRI doesn’t list any dimensions and is pretty short on detail altogether. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackson1: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: In the vein of this topic... Never call Bergara. Jesus Christ. "I don't know who Precision Reflex is or have any idea what you're talking about. We haven't made AR barrels in over 2 years". Call PRI back, tell them, laughter ensues. They make a really really nice barrel for the money, but obviously they don't know what the other hand is doing. Does the Bergara barrel PRI sells have the step in the right place to use the long collar and FSB and still have the right dimensions in front of the collar? PRI doesn’t list any dimensions and is pretty short on detail altogether. No, there isn't enough room for a long collar on a Mod 0 with PRi's 18" barrels. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 12:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: No, there isn't enough room for a long collar on a Mod 0 with PRi's 18" barrels. Thanks. Based on that and a post by LC on pg 1008, it sounds like in order to use a long collar on a Mod 0, I’ll either have to either modify the barrel or collar? I just finished reading all 1000+ pages and have been bitten by the Mod 0 bug. Trying to figure out what I need to look for. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 12:08:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackson1: Thanks. Based on that and a post by LC on pg 1008, it sounds like in order to use a long collar on a Mod 0, I’ll either have to either modify the barrel or collar? I just finished reading all 1000+ pages and have been bitten by the Mod 0 bug. Trying to figure out what I need to look for. CLE Barrel, long collar, shimmed brake..gets a hair under 4 turns for the suppressor, more than likely not recommended, but it shoots.. |
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