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Posted: 4/11/2006 9:41:34 AM EDT
I am interested in building my first AR-15 this summer. I will be buying the gun in pieces, more then likely i am first going to buy a complete upper from RRA. i want to go with open sites from the start because i wont be able to afford a scope for a few months after the gun is ready to be shot. but i definatly will put a scope on it in the future. i want the gun basically for the range and some varmant hunting so i dont want it to be that heavy. i was thinking a FF barrel in the 16 to 18 inch range. can some one give me some opinions in a complete upper from RRA with good sites to start off with. and also is it a good idea to buy the gun in pieces and should i buy the upper first.

please advise
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:46:04 AM EDT
I would buy your first upper completely assembled. I would also recommend getting a flattop upper, you could use detachable or flip-up sights until you get your scope. Mounting a scope on a fixed A2 handle can make them a little high and uncomfortable for some people, mounting them on flattops is much easier.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:46:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 9:47:33 AM EDT by M4A1OwnsYou]
It's a good idea to buy the gun in pieces if you know what you're doing, and plan on buying quality parts. Buy the upper complete though.

RRA actually sells rifle kits where you only have to buy the lower.

Here's a couple nice RRA uppers..

www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0500X&storeid=1&image=uva4.gif&CFID=8970003&CFTOKEN=78128685

www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0510X&storeid=1&image=uveop.gif&CFID=8970003&CFTOKEN=78128685

www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0775X&storeid=1&image=unma24.gif&CFID=8970003&CFTOKEN=78128685
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:48:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Y4145:
I would buy your first upper completely assembled. I would also recommend getting a flattop upper, you could use detachable or flip-up sights until you get your scope. Mounting a scope on a fixed A2 handle can make them a little high and uncomfortable for some people, mounting them on flattops is much easier.



+1. Forgot to mention that. Definitely get an A3 flat-top if you plan on mounting a scope in the future. It leaves endless possibilities for optic setups.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:52:44 AM EDT
i like those RRA varmint uppers the only thing is they are more the likly heavy because of that bull barrel
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:55:09 AM EDT
You could probably get them to free-float a standard barrel, most manufacturers are pretty good about special orders like that. RRA seems to have great customer service from what I've seen, it wouldn't hurt to ask them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:56:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rjv140:
i like those RRA varmint uppers the only thing is they are more the likly heavy because of that bull barrel



Yeah they probably have a little bit of weight to them but it's kind of hard to mix a range toy with a varmint hunter.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 9:57:59 AM EDT
what do you think of this...
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0675X&storeid=1&image=uhmid.gif&CFID=12749634&CFTOKEN=63617710]
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:02:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 10:03:47 AM EDT by Y4145]

Originally Posted By rjv140:
what do you think of this...
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0675X&storeid=1&image=uhmid.gif&CFID=12749634&CFTOKEN=63617710]



Mid-Length A4, chrome-lined, do it up. It looks like they DO offer it with a free float handguard, you should be all good.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:04:27 AM EDT
does the crome lined barrel make it more durable?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:15:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rjv140:
does the crome lined barrel make it more durable?



Yes, it makes it more corrosion resistant, and in my experience easier to clean the bore.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:24:31 AM EDT
now if i got that flat top mid length a-4 would i have to buy sites for it?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:56:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rjv140:
now if i got that flat top mid length a-4 would i have to buy sites for it?



Yes, you can get a detachable carry handle, or a flip-up like the ARMS or GG&G. RRA also offers it with a flat-top gas block and flip-up front sight it looks like.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:08:27 AM EDT
i am not to sure what these sites look like do you know where i can get a pic of theses sites
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:08:59 AM EDT
I have a cheapo carry handle I can sell you until you get your scope if you want. Let me know.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:09:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rjv140:
i am not to sure what these sites look like do you know where i can get a pic of theses sites





This is an example of a flip up rear sight.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:47:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:49:32 AM EDT
how much do good front and rear sites run? because i want to know how much this gun is going to run me. becuase just for the chrome barrel midlength a-4 full upper its like 490$
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