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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:44:39 AM EDT
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Ok someone's got to do it.
87 Yards +/- 87 Yards. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:44:58 AM EDT
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88 yards!
You could hit a man sized target at 200. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:49:19 AM EDT
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87 + 87 = 174 Okay, 174 yards. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:56:54 AM EDT
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Hallway and bedroom distance, which is what subguns are made for |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:01:20 AM EDT
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What does "effective range" mean? We're talking about 9mm ball here.....
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:02:07 AM EDT
[#6]
MAXIMUM effective range of 9mm AR with 14'' barrel shooting NATO 124 gr |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:06:50 AM EDT
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You can hit at 100, but probably won't have much energy left. So, that would be beyond maximum. Wrong tool for the job.  It takes double taps to knock over steel pigs at 75, sometimes triple with a 16" bbl, 124 gr. My .38 w/158 grain loads, 6" bbl knocks them over with one hit and will knock over rams at 100y, most of the time. 9 won't do it at 100. Not too dynamic of a test, but does reflect a significant difference. It begs to ask, effective against what? 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:12:15 AM EDT
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That is the distance you want be when you let me shoot at you. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:43:52 AM EDT
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90 yards tops. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:09:28 PM EDT
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I just asw a guy last week hitting tin cans at the Berm with a remington 22lr HBAR I forgot the model maybe 39? nice rifle
The Berm is about 220 yards! I would hate to be at the other end  |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:29:52 PM EDT
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"Effective" how? Hitting a target? Terminal effectiveness on what kind of game? Defense/combat?
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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:39:20 PM EDT
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you asked a dumb question and you did get the correct answer. Do you want to know the max distance you can lob a 9mm or do you wnat to know at what point the 9mm is no longer effective, when was it effective and when does it stop being effective? when the vel stops it being able to go 12inches into a person? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:49:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I think you mean 14 yards! 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:52:13 PM EDT
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Actually It's 87 meters. Research has proven this! |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:05:09 PM EDT
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Why exactly is this a dumb question. I have given all variables required when it comes to the hardware and round in question. Granted, "effective" can be a vague word, however most people would take that to mean when it would stop a bad guy. Yes, there may be better rounds to do the job. There are in every situation, but I am asking about the conditions oulined. Yes a tank would be better, but I am not asking about a tank. If you are one of those 9mm hating folks and are now going to try to school me about the almightly .45, I will find the recent thread in which a guy got shot 4 times at close range with a .45 and kept coming until a head shot. And before you get to the rifle round answer, I am not talking about a rifle round. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:30:41 PM EDT
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what altitude are you shooting at? What is the barrel temp? First shot or third? do you know the temperature and humidity? are you shooting at a upward or downward slope? wind at your location? wind at the target? what is the ammo temp? what powder and how many grains? primer? casing? whats the BC of the bullet?
I would have to say 85.88273124998 meters give or take .443 centermeters |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:33:45 PM EDT
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lol |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:36:23 PM EDT
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alt = 400 ft barrel temp = 150 deg F 2nd shot 85 deg, 90 rel humity, 10 mph wind from SW even plane NATO 124 grain 9mm By my calculations your are slightly off. I got 86.88273124998 meters, so lets just round to 87. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:39:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2006 1:41:45 PM EDT
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the Redgoat shoots hogs with a 9mm carbine, I don't know what length but he could tell you
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Posted: 3/30/2006 4:25:21 AM EDT
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His dates? Or ferral hogs? |
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Posted: 3/30/2006 4:29:16 AM EDT
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I tried 150 feet yesterday out of mine, a rifle that's zeroed at 50. she was pretty much dead on, and I would NOT want to be standing there with either hte FMJ rounds you mention or the SXT's I was throwing out.
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Posted: 3/30/2006 5:17:29 AM EDT
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I can still put a hefty swing on my steel gong at 100yds with my 11.5" 9mm AR using 115gr WWB. I wouldnt want anyone to shoot at me with a 9mm subgun inside 200yds, thats for sure.
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Posted: 3/30/2006 6:00:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2006 6:55:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2006 7:13:13 AM EDT
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147 grain at 75 yards. (I know you asked about 124, but I don't shoot as much as 147s)
 Entered the left shoudler. Broke the shoulder. Entered the spinal column. Broke the spinal column. Entered the right should. broke the right shoulder. Bullet found, intact, deformed, under the hide on the right side. I shot some hogs about a month ago with a mixed mag of 124s and 115s. Wounded two, killed a 250lb boar. No pics, not sure if it was 115 or 124 that hit him. About 50-75 yards? TRG |
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Posted: 3/30/2006 4:13:15 PM EDT
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edited to add: saw it in the other thread |
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Posted: 3/30/2006 5:48:51 PM EDT
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If I knew how fast a 9mm had to be moving to penetrate 12" I could give a decent answer.
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