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Posted: 3/25/2006 6:54:46 PM EDT
I have a stock Bushmaster A2 buttstock. Is there a special way of inserting the buffer spring? It wasn't doing the "sproingggg" noise before. I'm thinking I might have put it in the wrong way?

My Bushie M4, does not make the "sproinggg" noise at all.

Thanks, Charlie.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:57:15 PM EDT
it should "sproing". the sproing is your friend. that is all.

--VT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:57:33 PM EDT
Question is asked about once a week so I know the answer... Grease it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:58:03 PM EDT
Just take the spring out, you don't need it anyway.

But seriously, I think most of them do that anyway; you'd have to try real hard to put that spring and buffer in "wrong".
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:58:26 PM EDT
Put CLP into the buffer tube.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:58:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JAKE-T-SNAKE:
Question is asked about once a week so I know the answer... Grease it.



or that..



--VT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:03:43 PM EDT
<duuh> I should've known, searched for it. Seems to be a feature, not a bug hehehe.

How come I never noticed it before? and my DPMS 308 does not have that "sproing" noise?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:42:16 PM EDT
I never noticed it until about 150 or so rounds through my Bushmaster.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:47:41 PM EDT
What does a Hydrolic Buffer Unit Sound like? "Sshhhh"? I remember seeing one in the Oly Arms Catalog...

Nathan
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:47:52 PM EDT
Just get used to it.
It is part and parcel to the AR esperience.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:47:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:52:11 PM EDT
MGI Military sells a 'Super 2X' reciol spring. Quote from their web site:

"Our SUPER 2X Recoil spring is unique in that it is made from music wire. This not only increases the strength of the recoil spring more then 2 times that of a conventional recoil spring but also gets rid of that annoying ?bong? sound made by the traditional steel spring."

-sounds good, but its a little pricy, $30.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:59:24 PM EDT
Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:18:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?




felt is actually the preferred preventative measure after the fact you are SOL
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:21:30 PM EDT
I shot an M1A for years. Had never shot a AR. First time I shot my buddies and heard that sproing noise I thought WTF now I own 3 AR's

Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:39:21 PM EDT
EVERY TIME I PULL THE TRIGGER BULLETS FLY OUT THE FRONT HOW DO I STOP THEM??? SPROING!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:48:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GTLandser:
Just take the spring out, you don't need it anyway.

But seriously, I think most of them do that anyway; you'd have to try real hard to put that spring and buffer in "wrong".



Wasn't hard for me. I just put it in sideways. Fit was poor, but at least I proved you wrong.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:50:14 PM EDT
My old Bushmaster's "sproingggg" warmed my heart; it reminded me of the soind my childhood Daisy "red-rider" style BB gun made. My USMC issued Colt M16A2 didn't sproing right; it reminded me of a real nice RWS air rifle - still good.


-Semper Yut



Originally Posted By NDT3:
I shot an M1A for years. Had never shot a AR. First time I shot my buddies and heard that sproing noise I thought WTF now I own 3 AR's


Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:54:20 PM EDT
My A1 does this to !
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:59:30 PM EDT
Buddy assembled his rifle, forgot to put in the buffer and spring and the first time he pulled on the charging handle the bolt just went straight back and got stuck in the buffer tube.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:19:24 PM EDT
"Sproing"?
Don't embarrass yourself, man
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:20:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LOW2000:
Buddy assembled his rifle, forgot to put in the buffer and spring and the first time he pulled on the charging handle the bolt just went straight back and got stuck in the buffer tube.




Happened to my once. I felt very un-smart afterwards and learned something
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:29:54 PM EDT
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:45:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 9:45:57 PM EDT by TylerM_8]

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:49:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 9:50:29 PM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?


exactly
the buffer tube will turn into a filthy mess
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 10:01:38 PM EDT
Hows a group return to all major AR manufacturer's due to this sproing sound sound?

Sending my bushy back 2maro because bullets fly out of the barrel


just messin man, its normal
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 10:06:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By silveradoguy17:
Sending my bushy back 2maro because bullets fly out of the barrel



Holy crap you too?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 10:47:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?



kinda hard to remove those brass marks, but you can try a decent gun cleaner solvent.

on the other hand, you can do what I do, apply a thin piece of rubber on the deflector. Clean any grease or solvents off the deflector and then use a glue like rubber cement to attach a piece of rubber to it. Its not permanent, but it works fantastically.

You can also get some single sided sticky tape as it works great as well.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:41:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?



WOLF
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:48:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?


exactly
the buffer tube will turn into a filthy mess



Any excess oil will simply drain out the buttstock through the Drain Hole though.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:50:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?


exactly
the buffer tube will turn into a filthy mess



Any excess oil will simply drain out the buttstock through the Drain Hole though.


and the remaining oil will be a dirt magnet
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:55:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?


exactly
the buffer tube will turn into a filthy mess



Any excess oil will simply drain out the buttstock through the Drain Hole though.


and the remaining oil will be a dirt magnet



Thats why you are supposed to clean the buffer tube out each time you clean your rifle. Or at least according to the Bushmaster manual you are.
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 12:09:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2006 12:13:18 AM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By TylerM_8:

Originally Posted By twonami:
DO NOT OIL OR GREASE IT



huh?


exactly
the buffer tube will turn into a filthy mess



Any excess oil will simply drain out the buttstock through the Drain Hole though.


and the remaining oil will be a dirt magnet



Thats why you are supposed to clean the buffer tube out each time you clean your rifle. Or at least according to the Bushmaster manual you are.


cleans much easier when there is no oil in it
ETA: your not supposed to lube it anyway
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 12:15:01 AM EDT
I put grease in mine. Dont put to much or it will sqeeze out past the plunger and into the lower. Don't ask me how I know this. I did this on my first AR and was'nt used to the spring noise and someone said that grease would quiet it down.

Now I jus have a thin coating, it seems quieter. I have not put any on the other 2 AR's though. I've gotten used to and like the sound.
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 4:45:20 AM EDT
Sproing is good!!!
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:22:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?


I just use some of the solvent that dissolves copper. I usually take one of the patches I have run through the bore thats not to dirty and wipe the brass marks off. Comes right off.
JRandyH
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:25:10 AM EDT
The more you shoot it, your mind will get used to hearing "sproing" and it won't be so obvious.
I know mine still makes the noise (had somone else shoot it, they hear it), but I've heard it so much that I don't notice it anymore.

Also, if you LIGHTLY put some oil or CLP on the spring, it'll take alot of it away. A tiny bit is all it takes. Maybe A drop on your finger, and then apply with your finger.
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:46:11 AM EDT
You can try a Tubb AR recoil spring. The sproing doesn't go away, but it's not as noticeable.
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:47:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:52:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2006 5:59:52 AM EDT by DK-Prof]

I don't understand why some people would unecessarily start oiling or greasing rifle parts because of a slight NOISE. Since it is NOT a defect, but in fact the way the rifle just happens to sound, why in the world would you try to "fix" it by adding grease or oil to a part of the rifle that is not required.


Are you guys recommending greasing Garand clips too, to avoid the sound when it ejects?
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 5:54:39 AM EDT
When I'm shooting rapid fire on a line of 25+ guys, that "sprong" is the only thing other than counting my rounds that tell me when I'm done. You'll be shooting along: Sprong,.....sprong....spoink and when you don't hear the spring spring back up that's when you know.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:11:54 AM EDT
That sproing is the sound of happyness.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 3:23:08 AM EDT
The very first AR I shot was an M16 in basic, and I was certain that the trainee before me reassembled the weapon incorrectly when I heard the sproing.

My exact thought was also "WTF"
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 6:12:00 AM EDT
It's supposed to do that. Leave it be. Do not oil or grease the spring.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 6:18:19 AM EDT
I have an Enidine buffer in one of my carbines. It seems to tame the spring noise to a degree, but there is still a spring, and so there is still noise. Learn to appreciate it, unless you do away with the spring, you will always have the noise.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 6:27:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2006 6:29:12 AM EDT by WildTurkey]
the sproing is good.... but colts seem to be louder. SPRIONG, SPRIONG, JAM! RRA is much quieter much better. spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, spriong spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong. replace empty mag. spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, spriong spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong, spriong, sproing sproing, spriong, spriong. replace empty mag. lol J/K lol J/K


Ronnie that's for you
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 8:34:13 AM EDT
My buffer tube actually sings "We welcome you to Munchkinland" when I pull the trigger. CLP just makes it hard to understand the words.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 3:44:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2006 3:44:54 PM EDT by SelectFire]
Hey did you guys remember to set your clocks?
You know the saying: sproing foward
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 3:57:21 PM EDT

Slightly off topic, how do I get the brass marks off of my brass deflector?



For all of you that actually answered his question, this is whats known as a "joke" because these 2 questions get asked about once a week and the answer to both is the same: it is normal.
the sproing is normal, if you don't like it that much maybe try a different weapon, or shoot with no plugs, then you can't hear it (again, a joke)
Brass marks are normal and if little brass marks worry you that much you should just keep your rifle in the safe otherwise you may scratch it somewhere else too...
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 4:07:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SelectFire:
Hey did you guys remember to set your clocks?
You know the saying: sproing foward






Try the veal.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 4:27:10 PM EDT
The sproing is designed in to remind you that you actually DID put your recoil spring back in the last time you cleaned your rifle.

7th
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