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Posted: 3/24/2006 8:38:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 5:10:15 PM EDT by eddiein1984]
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Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:40:13 AM EDT
Welcome to the Retro Club...............shoot that sucker as is!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:44:49 AM EDT
Nice A1 upper.

I f I could get $400 out of my spare upper, I would definately sell it.

Now for my opinion:

1) I use M16 carriers in a few uppers. / Not sure of the ATF ruling.
2)NO & NO
3)That would be great accuracy, but would expect 2" +
4)Possible, but probably far off and there are really alot of them out there.

Keep us posted on your finished version.

Good luck,
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:48:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By L0CK_N_L0AD:
Nice A1 upper.

I f I could get $400 out of my spare upper, I would definately sell it.

Now for my opinion:

1) I use M16 carriers in a few uppers. / Not sure of the ATF ruling.
2)NO & NO
3)That would be great accuracy, but would expect 2" +
4)Possible, but probably far off and there are really alot of them out there.

Keep us posted on your finished version.

Good luck,



So, did I overpay? CDNN wants $370 for one without B/BC/CH, so I figured this price was fair.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:49:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 8:50:52 AM EDT by Mr45auto]
Shoot it. I have a slickside just like it. It is one of the most enjoyable ARs I have. It is what an AR15 was meant to be. It's light and yet a fullsize rifle. Put it on a nice lower with an A1 length stock and you'll see what I mean. It wont take more than a magful to have you raving about how cool it is to shoot.

Dont change anything on it, it is what it is.
The handguards are awesome just like they are, dont fudge with em. You'd hate to hear what I have in my slickside but it was some very judicious shopping on the EE and I did have to assemble it myself from colt parts. You did okay on the purchase price.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:51:01 AM EDT
They A1 handguards are plenty strong enough for Civilian use. Now the USMC might need something tougher, but If you bust them let me know WTF you were doing!

1/12 is the optimal twist rate for accuracy from the 55 gr bullet. But that is up to you as the shooter.

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:53:40 AM EDT
Slap it on your lower and shoot it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:59:31 AM EDT
What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:03:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.



Not that much dude. Just shoot it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:05:05 AM EDT
$400 with the m16 bolt carrier group AND charging handle is a very good deal for a new Colt upper. I wouldn't worry about the M16 bolt carrier but since you already have an extra one, you could always sell it to me. I'll buy it if it's new and C marked. IM me.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:07:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 9:09:33 AM EDT by QUIB]

Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.



Why would you want to sell the bolt and carrier? You would just have to turn around and buy another set for about what you sold the Colt b and b/c for.

ETA: Just saw you had a spare b and b/c. But still, keep the upper as a complete set and shoot the damn thing already!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:12:41 AM EDT
Get an A2 lower from armalite (it's close enough)

"Rice Paddy Sweeper"

I'd keep the tri handgaurds , but I tricked mine out w/ round handgaurds

and an ambi saftey .

Light and sweet
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:20:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
They A1 handguards are plenty strong enough for Civilian use. Now the USMC might need something tougher, but If you bust them let me know WTF you were doing!

1/12 is the optimal twist rate for accuracy from the 55 gr bullet. But that is up to you as the shooter.




I agree with markm 87%. 3 years in the infantry and we never broke the A1 handguards.

I get awesome groups with 55gr ammo and my 1/12 barrel. Shoot it up!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:20:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:02:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 10:03:39 AM EDT by SPTiger]
Keep it, slap it onto a lower (with correct M16 stock and grip) and shoot the crap out of it. Leave the A1 handguards on there also.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 2:09:28 PM EDT
No, I dont think so.

I have about that in mine and would just like to get the $ out of it. I have an original SP1 from 1972 so I dont need the extra upper. I had the extra on a Colt preban lower, but it should have the 20" Govt or HBAR upper on it.

Not meant as a slam, sorry it appeared that way. It was a fair $ for both the buyer and seller I thought.

Good luck,
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:09:53 PM EDT
Slap it on a lower, put an OD green sling and a 20 round mag and shoot it like it was meant to be shot.

Welcome to the Retro Club.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:58:33 PM EDT
I'm considering one of CDNN's to put on a Cav Arms plastic lower. Now that'd be a light rifle. DSG has the complete lowers on sale now so I could do it for around $700.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:24:00 PM EDT
Keep it
Slap a lower on it
Keep it the way it is
Get some 30 round magazines
Shoot it
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:29:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wes15a2:
Keep it
Slap a lower on it
Keep it the way it is
Get some 30 20 round magazines
Shoot it



I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.

I say put it on a lower and shoot it. Leave it as it is!!! Or put a 3 prong flashider on it and do it up like a "Battle of Ia Drang Valley" M16A1 from We Were Soldiers. Just keep the triangular HGs on it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:32:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HP40:
I'm considering one of CDNN's to put on a Cav Arms plastic lower. Now that'd be a light rifle. DSG has the complete lowers on sale now so I could do it for around $700.



What is there to consider?! CDNN's Colt A1 uppers are great. You can't go wrong. Personally, I wouldn't put it on a cav arms lower but the A1 upper on a regular lower is already unbelievably light as it is.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:36:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.



Why? 30 round mags are just as correct for a an M16A1 as trap door buttstocks are. They were both issued around the same time in 1970.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:56:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ne1:

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.



Why? 30 round mags are just as correct for a an M16A1 as trap door buttstocks are. They were both issued around the same time in 1970.



Agreed.
I can't STAND 20 round magazines for any AR.
How can an extra 10 rounds hurt anything?
YMMV
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:09:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:03:16 PM EDT
Send the barrel to ADCO and cu it down to 14.7 and permenetly attach the A1 hider..slap it on a lower with a colt colapsable stock and make a 653 carbine clone
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:15:02 PM EDT
shoot it
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:00:20 AM EDT
I'd mount it to a lower from the same era, and hve a beautiful wall-hanger. It will be worth a pretty penny someday or to one of your kids

Assuming you have other AR set-ups to shoot.

Retro M16/AR15's are awesome.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:25:00 AM EDT
I'll give you the $150 for the B/BC if it's new. Thanks
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:30:55 AM EDT
Guns usually don't beat inflation as an investment.

The only reason to put A2 handguards on would be to keep the barrel cool. I've seen some test results; A1 handguards get the barrel very hot.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:27:18 PM EDT
Unless you really MUST have the money, hold on to the BCG; might as well keep the upper all Colt. I think you already got a deal at $400.
The full auto carrier seems to no longer be an issue, legally. I opened a brand new Bushie, and it had what looked like a full auto carrier. Really is the weight the gun was designed for.
Yeah, build yourself a retro. They really are fun to shoot, and give the multiple benefits of light weight, full sight radius, and full velocity for the little 55 grain pills. You won't hurt it enough to do it any harm as a collector's item.
Moon
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 6:59:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 7:01:14 PM EDT by Brian_in_Pullman]
Get a lower, lpk, A1 stock, some greyish-black moly resin, coat the lower and put it together like this:

then shoot it!

ETA: Post 762
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:09:29 PM EDT
What he said.

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