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Posted: 3/24/2006 8:38:19 AM EDT

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Posted: 3/24/2006 8:40:13 AM EDT

[#1]

Welcome to the Retro Club...............shoot that sucker as is!

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:44:49 AM EDT

[#2]

Nice A1 upper.

I f I could get $400 out of my spare upper, I would definately sell it.

Now for my opinion:

1) I use M16 carriers in a few uppers. / Not sure of the ATF ruling.
2)NO & NO
3)That would be great accuracy, but would expect 2" +
4)Possible, but probably far off and there are really alot of them out there.

Keep us posted on your finished version.

Good luck,

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:48:46 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Nice A1 upper.

I f I could get $400 out of my spare upper, I would definately sell it.

Now for my opinion:

1) I use M16 carriers in a few uppers. / Not sure of the ATF ruling.
2)NO & NO
3)That would be great accuracy, but would expect 2" +
4)Possible, but probably far off and there are really alot of them out there.

Keep us posted on your finished version.

Good luck,

So, did I overpay? CDNN wants $370 for one without B/BC/CH, so I figured this price was fair.

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:49:15 AM EDT

[#4]

Shoot it. I have a slickside just like it. It is one of the most enjoyable ARs I have. It is what an AR15 was meant to be. It's light and yet a fullsize rifle. Put it on a nice lower with an A1 length stock and you'll see what I mean. It wont take more than a magful to have you raving about how cool it is to shoot.

Dont change anything on it, it is what it is.
The handguards are awesome just like they are, dont fudge with em. You'd hate to hear what I have in my slickside but it was some very judicious shopping on the EE and I did have to assemble it myself from colt parts. You did okay on the purchase price.

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:51:01 AM EDT

[#5]

They A1 handguards are plenty strong enough for Civilian use. Now the USMC might need something tougher, but If you bust them let me know WTF you were doing!

1/12 is the optimal twist rate for accuracy from the 55 gr bullet. But that is up to you as the shooter.

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:53:40 AM EDT

[#6]

Slap it on your lower and shoot it.

Posted: 3/24/2006 8:59:31 AM EDT

[#7]

What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:03:07 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.

Not that much dude. Just shoot it.

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:05:05 AM EDT

[#9]

$400 with the m16 bolt carrier group AND charging handle is a very good deal for a new Colt upper. I wouldn't worry about the M16 bolt carrier but since you already have an extra one, you could always sell it to me. I'll buy it if it's new and C marked. IM me.

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:07:38 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
What would the M16 bolt/carrier be worth if I sold it alone? Maybe $150 if it is in unfired condition? That would leave me with $250 invested in the upper and CH.

Why would you want to sell the bolt and carrier? You would just have to turn around and buy another set for about what you sold the Colt b and b/c for.

ETA: Just saw you had a spare b and b/c. But still, keep the upper as a complete set and shoot the damn thing already!

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:12:41 AM EDT

[#11]

Get an A2 lower from armalite (it's close enough

)

"Rice Paddy Sweeper"

I'd keep the tri handgaurds , but I tricked mine out w/ round handgaurds

and an ambi saftey .

Light and sweet

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:20:15 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
They A1 handguards are plenty strong enough for Civilian use. Now the USMC might need something tougher, but If you bust them let me know WTF you were doing!

1/12 is the optimal twist rate for accuracy from the 55 gr bullet. But that is up to you as the shooter.

I agree with markm 87%. 3 years in the infantry and we never broke the A1 handguards.

I get awesome groups with 55gr ammo and my 1/12 barrel. Shoot it up!

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:20:45 AM EDT

[#13]

My setup is all A1 save for the A2 handguards. I hate the sharp feel of the A1s and prefer the A2s. Everything else is just dandy.

Posted: 3/24/2006 10:02:53 AM EDT

[#14]

Keep it, slap it onto a lower (with correct M16 stock and grip) and shoot the crap out of it. Leave the A1 handguards on there also.

Posted: 3/24/2006 2:09:28 PM EDT

[#15]

No, I dont think so.

I have about that in mine and would just like to get the $ out of it. I have an original SP1 from 1972 so I dont need the extra upper. I had the extra on a Colt preban lower, but it should have the 20" Govt or HBAR upper on it.

Not meant as a slam, sorry it appeared that way. It was a fair $ for both the buyer and seller I thought.

Good luck,

Posted: 3/24/2006 4:09:53 PM EDT

[#16]

Slap it on a lower, put an OD green sling and a 20 round mag and shoot it like it was meant to be shot.

Welcome to the Retro Club.

Posted: 3/24/2006 5:58:33 PM EDT

[#17]

I'm considering one of CDNN's to put on a Cav Arms plastic lower. Now that'd be a light rifle. DSG has the complete lowers on sale now so I could do it for around $700.

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:24:00 PM EDT

[#18]

Keep it
Slap a lower on it
Keep it the way it is
Get some 30 round magazines
Shoot it

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:29:11 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Keep it
Slap a lower on it
Keep it the way it is
Get some 30 20 round magazines
Shoot it

I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.

I say put it on a lower and shoot it. Leave it as it is!!! Or put a 3 prong flashider on it and do it up like a "Battle of Ia Drang Valley" M16A1 from We Were Soldiers.

Just keep the triangular HGs on it.

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:32:18 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
I'm considering one of CDNN's to put on a Cav Arms plastic lower. Now that'd be a light rifle. DSG has the complete lowers on sale now so I could do it for around $700.

What is there to consider?! CDNN's Colt A1 uppers are great. You can't go wrong. Personally, I wouldn't put it on a cav arms lower but the A1 upper on a regular lower is already unbelievably light as it is.

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:36:42 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.

Why? 30 round mags are just as correct for a an M16A1 as trap door buttstocks are. They were both issued around the same time in 1970.

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:56:34 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I can't STAND 30 round mags in A1's (especially 20" ones) unless you NEED the extra 10 rounds.

Why? 30 round mags are just as correct for a an M16A1 as trap door buttstocks are. They were both issued around the same time in 1970.

Agreed.
I can't STAND 20 round magazines for any AR.
How can an extra 10 rounds hurt anything?
YMMV

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:09:42 PM EDT

[#23]

Buy a M16 lower to go with it.

Posted: 3/24/2006 10:03:16 PM EDT

[#24]

Send the barrel to ADCO and cu it down to 14.7 and permenetly attach the A1 hider..slap it on a lower with a colt colapsable stock and make a 653 carbine clone

Posted: 3/24/2006 10:15:02 PM EDT

[#25]

shoot it

Posted: 3/25/2006 8:00:20 AM EDT

[#26]

I'd mount it to a lower from the same era, and hve a beautiful wall-hanger. It will be worth a pretty penny someday or to one of your kids

Assuming you have other AR set-ups to shoot.

Retro M16/AR15's are awesome.

Posted: 3/25/2006 8:25:00 AM EDT

[#27]

I'll give you the $150 for the B/BC if it's new. Thanks

Posted: 3/25/2006 8:30:55 AM EDT

[#28]

Guns usually don't beat inflation as an investment.

The only reason to put A2 handguards on would be to keep the barrel cool. I've seen some test results; A1 handguards get the barrel very hot.

Posted: 3/25/2006 6:27:18 PM EDT

[#29]

Unless you really MUST have the money, hold on to the BCG; might as well keep the upper all Colt. I think you already got a deal at $400.
The full auto carrier seems to no longer be an issue, legally. I opened a brand new Bushie, and it had what looked like a full auto carrier. Really is the weight the gun was designed for.
Yeah, build yourself a retro. They really are fun to shoot, and give the multiple benefits of light weight, full sight radius, and full velocity for the little 55 grain pills. You won't hurt it enough to do it any harm as a collector's item.
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