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Posted: 3/17/2006 9:41:58 AM EDT
I know that I will be opening a big can of worms here, but I am considering getting my 16" post ban M4 config bbl cut to 14.5" and having a perm flashhider attached. Which gives the best performance for the $ in terms of:

1.effectiveness in reducing flash
2. No degradation in Accuracy
3. Cool look factor

Thanks for your input.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:45:28 AM EDT
I have a phantom that looks and preforms great.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:46:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:49:00 AM EDT by mr_wilson]
This is one of the most effective flash-HIDERS I have ever seen. (WWII vintage)




That said I think your asking about flash-suppressors.

In that regard the G6 Vortex is #1, with the Phantom a close second.

Mike

ETA - here's a pic of the Phantom like I have on one of my 14.5" w/ perm FS barrels, (theother has the Vortex)



Note: not my pic and no my crush washer is installed correctly, unlike the pic above which has it backward....
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:46:49 AM EDT
This one for sure! http://www.talonarms.com/talonarms/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=218&products_id=258
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:51:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:52:05 AM EDT by mr_wilson]

Originally Posted By John44:
This one for sure! www.talonarms.com/talonarms/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=218&products_id=258



He asked for the best in 3 categorys, your falls well below the two choices above in categorys 1 & 2.

Mike

ps - ain't even sure that your competes in catagory 3
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:54:14 AM EDT
I concur with Mr Wilson.

Vortex the best, with the Phantom comming in a close second for effectiveness. For looks I prefer the Phantom 5C2 (that saw tooth looking one in the photo).
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:01:30 AM EDT
I suggest you go to Yankee Hill Machine's website and look at the Phantom 5C1 Flash Hider:



Or the Phantom 5C2 :



No downward ports to blow dirt on your line of sight, doesn't snag on branches or foliage and works well.

Or get the Vortex from Smith Enterprises; though the concensus of most shooters is that the Phantom is more popular; but that's my take on it.

Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:01:35 AM EDT
And just how does my choice fall below #3?!? Which is the reason I but it up! And as for falling below #1 and #2 that is your opinion. Your opinion I am sure is based on facts so don't get all upset! I am just trying to give the guy as many options as possible. Then he can make up his own mind up a bought what he wants him self.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:08:07 AM EDT
See testing of FS here: silencertests.com/flash.htm

Mike

ps - I was referring to the fact that the "cool" factor generally swings the Phantom way.....
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:09:55 AM EDT
Thanks for all the input so quick. I really dig the WW2 Hider.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:12:30 AM EDT
Phantom 5C2
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:13:20 AM EDT
Whats the deal with the YHM-28?

http://www.rbprecision.com/id42_m.htm#yhm_28_phantom_flash_suppressor_
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:20:00 AM EDT

Most people seem to agree that the Phantom and Vortex are among the best flash supressors out there, and testing seems to indicate that they are very similar in thier flash supression capabilities.

Because the Phantom is significantly less expensive than the Vortex, many people prefer it.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:21:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 10:24:53 AM EDT by mr_wilson]

Originally Posted By ARBoy:
Whats the deal with the YHM-28?

www.rbprecision.com/id42_m.htm#yhm_28_phantom_flash_suppressor_



IIRC, this is the Phantom with the "closed" bottom for kicking up less dust, than say the 5 port model I showed above....

Sorry got it backward the YHM28 is the old style WITHOUT the closed bottom, as shown above, the newer ones all have the closed bottom.

Mike
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:23:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:
I concur with Mr Wilson.

Vortex the best, with the Phantom comming in a close second for effectiveness. For looks I prefer the Phantom 5C2 (that saw tooth looking one in the photo).



Exactly my thoughts also.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:25:05 AM EDT
Vortex gets my nod
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:27:47 AM EDT
I wasent debating the fact that Vortex/Phantom have great flash suppression! But I just don't see how the COOL factor goes to the Phantom! But that's just me as I want a more Mil looking FH! -John
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:50:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John44:
...But I just don't see how the COOL factor goes to the Phantom! ..



It's not just a muzzled device - It'll cut someones eye out!
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:53:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 10:53:58 AM EDT by Hokie]
5C1 or 5C2, that closed bottom port is priceless when shooting prone. Serves as a compensator & reduces flash at the same time. IMHO it's the best muzzle device out there.

The Vortex is very nice....until you shoot prone and put a cloud of dust/sand in your eyes.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:01:43 AM EDT
smith vortex gets my nod
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:05:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:08:08 AM EDT
Troy Medievil?

Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:30:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:36:08 AM EDT
Vortex
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 1:00:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 1:01:26 PM EDT by chakarji]
Troy Medievil



I have the flash hider version, not the brake,,,, I LOVE IT it looks nasty and is so solid,,, also if you hit someone on the fore head it will leave that meet tenderized look



BIG +1
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 1:53:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:

Originally Posted By John44:
...But I just don't see how the COOL factor goes to the Phantom! ..



It's not just a muzzled device - It'll cut someones eye out!


.....................but wait......................I thought that's why I am getting a 14.5" bbl...............to put my bayonet on it! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG I don't get it! O well what ever. The Vortex isn't my cup of tea, but hey its a free country! So get what you want!

My vote is for TalonArms!
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