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Posted: 3/3/2006 4:25:48 PM EDT
I am looking to build the ultimate AR. I want a 16" fluted non-chrome lined Chromoly barrel but am having trouble locating one. However, during my search I have come across all sorts of cool crap that I want to put on this build. It got me thinking about other's opinions on the ultimate AR setup. What's yours?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 4:31:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 4:31:23 PM EDT by bigbore]
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 4:40:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigbore:
There is no ultimate/do all. Determine what do you want to use this tool for and build accordingly.



+1

Build as many as you can.

Dave W.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:00:18 PM EDT
you guys are no fun
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:11:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 5:21:32 PM EDT by Cypher214]
If by "perfect AR", you mean one that is a good all-around rifle for most things an average joe is likely to run into, I'd say one like my ADCO-built middy would be good for you. I picked this configuration to be a multi-purpose rifle after owning several different configurations in the past. I wanted a rifle that was capable of ranges from 20' to 500yds.

I don't have any pics of the completed rifle yet, but here's the specs:

CMMG 16" .gov profile midlength bbl, 1/7, chrome lined
WOA flat-top upper
RRA lower
MagPul M93B
MagPul MIAD
LaRue 12.0
Troy BUIS (front and rear)
Leupold MR/T M2 with Ill. SPR reticle
LaRue SPR-EER mount
Pentagon X3 in a DD mount (will be a LaRue offset mount when I get around to ordering one)
Dieter CQD vert. grip
Harris bipod with LaRue mount so I can detach it when it's not needed.
Vortex

The furniture is OD and the entire rifle was KG Koted OD by ADCO. Green matches my environment.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:16:37 PM EDT
Over time if you look at these threads you will see countless variations of AR's. They will give you ideas you would not have thought of before. Still, you need to assess what the gun's primary function will be and build on that.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:22:20 PM EDT
I guess if I had to say "if you could have only one" rifle, mine would be:

16" middy with rifle length handguards, set up as a dissy
1:9 twist, chrome lined medium profiled barrel
standard FSB
A1 upper receiver with A2 sight
shortened fixed stock (for the cleaning kit)
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:24:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:25:28 PM EDT
Perfect AR? A M14hand Don't ask me why, it's just the perfect AR for me! O yeah that's is Colt 727 for those in the kolt.
#2 Plan old A2
#3 XM177E1
#4 XM16E1
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:26:12 PM EDT
You want me to pick just one?


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:28:35 PM EDT
Colt M16 Registered Lower Receiver
Colt M4 Upper Receiver
Colt 14.5" SOCOM M4A1 Barrel
LMT SOPMOD Stock
LaRue 7.0 FF Rail
SRT Hurricane Sound Suppressor
MGI Rate/Recoil Reducing Buffer
MGI Adjustable Gas Tube
Tango Down Vertical Grip
Tango Down Battle Grip
Aimpoint ML2 Optic
ARMS #22M68 Mount w/ Cantilever Spacer
ARMS #40 BUIS
Colt Side Sling Adapter
Magpul Ladder Rail Protectors
KNS Anti-Rotation Sear, Hammer, and Trigger Pins
Wolff HD Extractor Spring
D-Fender "O"-Ring
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:34:46 PM EDT

bARbie-15 by Brasspile
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:42:57 PM EDT
I'm a simple guy.. I'd really like:



with

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:10:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 6:12:12 PM EDT by CrotalusCo]
for me it would be a LMT MRP with 10" barrel, select fire 3burst and eotech holo sight

but if dreaming ill take this
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:43:35 PM EDT
CMMG 16inch Mid length gas, 1:7, chrome lined
Chromed bolt carrier, standard bolt
ACE Socom stock, 1/2 inch pad
PRI Big Latch
DD 9.0 with 3 ladders and 2 panels (not shown)
Double Star carrying handle
Double Star Lower
Double Star lower parts kit (they're local, so I use them)
RRA long scope rail (checked it out, it returns to zero)
Harris Swivel bipod
A2 flash hider

I call it...multasking. Light, quick handling, accurate and easy on the (my) eyes.
Cheap? Nope.





www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=333590

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:13:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 7:16:23 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]
basic Govt profile A2 rifle
IMO of course YMMV

that said my most used gun is a BM mod carbine with a surefire 900, magpul M93B stock, and a Trijicon TAO1NSN
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:18:45 PM EDT
My perfect AR would have a hole for the sear pin drilled in the lower. After that I could be happy with anything.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:24:15 PM EDT
There actually IS a perfect AR15, but my camera isn't working right now
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:31:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 7:31:50 PM EDT by kcobean]

Originally Posted By jmccoy:
I'm a simple guy.. I'd really like:

www.eaglefirearms.net/images/AR%20Elite%20CAR%20A4.jpg



I ordered one of these last week!! It will be here via UPS on Monday!!! It's gonna be a loooooong weekend of waiting.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:34:40 PM EDT
A 20" AR with a scope and a Dr optic type at the same time.

Preferaly that can do 1k yards too, maybe in 6.5


We will see soon.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:38:12 PM EDT
Fools.....the perfect AR is one that someone else pays for.......
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:42:01 PM EDT
light, light, and light.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:49:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:50:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 7:54:10 PM EDT by Cyclic240B]
For medium range accuracy, my idea on a no budget weapon....

LMT lower with LMT 2-Stage Trigger
WOA Upper
Douglas 12 flute SDM spec' barrel
PRI SS Gas Block
Smith Ent. Vortex
Daniel Defense 12.0 forearm w/ AMU spec' steel barrel nut
KNS pins
CMT CL/MP tested M16 BCG
PRI M84 Gasbuster Changing Handle
Troy F/R BUIS
ARMS 30mm high rings
Leupold Mk 4 3-9x36mm MR/T M3 with Illuminated Reticle.

The pics were taken in January, I have added a Magpul trigger guard and PRS stock, a Harris 3-9 BRM/S bipod with nut locker and LaRue bipod apapter, and finished it with a KAS QD sling mount and a turner AWS sling. All the parts came from ARFCOM dealers, NW Tactical, G&R Tactical, and ADCO Firearms....









My short range tool would be an LMT as well...

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:53:25 PM EDT
One lower multiple uppers.

That's the perfect AR15.


Then you could have something like a big bore chambered AR15 as a guide gun for the occasional charging grizzly(or more realistically empty beer keg), another upper to get it moved over to a varmint config, another upper for 3gun or defensive use.


So my perfect lower would wind up being something like a Bushmaster or STAG lower with Magpul M93A, Magpul MAID grip and triggerguard, and a massaged trigger with a JP speed hammer.

Upper would be anybody's definition of perfect for them.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:19:44 PM EDT
Honestly, my ultimate rifle would be either a debaned MT6400C or an LE6920, with a high quality optic (ACOG, Aimpoint, eotech etc). I've never been a fan of the super fancy stuff. I'd rather keep it realitvely simple. Every answer you get will be different. Everyone has their own wants/needs, and none are going to be the same. I would recomend surfing through the pic threads to see what you might be interested in.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:20:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 8:22:24 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By JL7:
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bARbie-15 by Brasspile




I was going to say the same thing - that AR really cannot be trumped !!!


But here's a pic of my all-round AR - 16" Midlength (CMMG lower, RRA upper) with ELCAN optic and diemaco BUIS.



(I've tweaked it a little since then - it's got a fully railed handguard now, plus a different stock)
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:23:56 PM EDT





Black rifle disease, I can't decide!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:32:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By edwin907:



Black rifle disease, I can't decide!




I haven't caught an SPR disease yet, I'm waiting to see if my 2 STAG lowers will get to be built up into full rifles(california resident) to join my 3 other AR15s plus AR10.

If one of the STAGs gets to be built up, that's pretty damn close to what I'm lookin to build.

Something to be a smaller brother to my AR10.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:36:52 PM EDT



I would only change a couple of things, otherwise it's perfect for me

1. it would be a Colt 6921 instead of an LMT
2. upgrade to the new Surefire with the LEDs
3. upgrade from the Aimpoint ML2 to an ML3
4. add a D-Fender
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:58:44 PM EDT
NO ONE TELL ME THAT MY BUIS IS MOUNTED WRONG!!!!!


I took this pic after just slapping the crap on the gun real quick, noticed it after the first person told me it was wrong.

Here she is:


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:08:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 9:09:43 PM EDT by redfisher]





No not mine
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:17:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 04hemi:
NO ONE TELL ME THAT MY BUIS IS MOUNTED WRONG!!!!!


I took this pic after just slapping the crap on the gun real quick, noticed it after the first person told me it was wrong.

Here she is:


i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/bigblackrifle/Damn.jpg



hey that BUIS is never gonna work like that
sorry had too
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:59:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:00:36 PM EDT by BushmasterGuy77]

Originally Posted By JL7:

Originally Posted By 04hemi:
NO ONE TELL ME THAT MY BUIS IS MOUNTED WRONG!!!!!


I took this pic after just slapping the crap on the gun real quick, noticed it after the first person told me it was wrong.

Here she is:


i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/bigblackrifle/Damn.jpg



hey that BUIS is never gonna work like that
sorry had too



Well atleast he didn't put the Eotech on the bottom rail. Nice rifle you have there

Nathan
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:08:54 PM EDT
Your Buis is mounted wrong!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:13:41 PM EDT

At the moment this is my ultimate AR(really an Oly M16 in M4 dress.)
Pat
0-1-25
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:24:55 PM EDT
My best attempt at perfection

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:48:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:48:41 PM EDT by Krazny13]
My Recce is close to it.

Noveske barrel
CMT A3 upper
DD 9.0
PRI Flip Front sight
G6A2 FH (On its way)
RRA lower
RRA 2 stage trigger (I'd love a KAC or a Gieselle)
MIAD and the Magpul TG
Crane Buttstock
And a TA-31F with a modified BDC for 77 gr bullets. . .(I can dream, cant I?)
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:29:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/4b22fa62.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/010bb851.jpg


No not mine



Too bad

Here is what I think is the perfect AR15. Doesnt get any better

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:40:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
My best attempt at perfection

i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/RyanJR/IMG_2436.jpg



Looks heavy.

For me, the perfect AR would be something like this

M4A3 (RR)
EOtech/ACOG
Troy rear BUIS
A good surefire light.
Ability to mount a suppressor

I don't see the need for much else.
No rails, VFGs etc.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:39:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
My best attempt at perfection

i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/RyanJR/IMG_2436.jpg



At what distance were those targets shot? Nice rifle.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:56:17 AM EDT
Why No Piston AR's??? The LW Special Forces Limitied Edition rifle would be the closest thing to a perfect AR. You have the best of everything covered on that Baby!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:03:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
My best attempt at perfection

i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/RyanJR/IMG_2436.jpg

nice rig
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:10:05 AM EDT
M16 lower with a Plasma rifle upper in the 40MW range.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:19:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:52:59 AM EDT
On Tuesday I will finally have all the parts to build my perfect AR. But I'll show it in a new thread along with lots of pics (prolly won't be good ones, but I'll try)...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:00:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/4b22fa62.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/010bb851.jpg


No not mine




Yes, that's the one I want as well.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:09:46 AM EDT
There is no one perfect AR for me, it would be several like standard, monolithic rails, convertible and a couple of gas pistons.

11.5" SBR
14.5" LW CAR/ M4
16" Middy
RECCE
SPR
SDM
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:22:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:27:12 AM EDT
I would buy every MG I could buy and start from there .
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:37:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 04hemi:
NO ONE TELL ME THAT MY BUIS IS MOUNTED WRONG!!!!!


I took this pic after just slapping the crap on the gun real quick, noticed it after the first person told me it was wrong.

Here she is:


i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/bigblackrifle/Damn.jpg




Why Continue to show that picture?

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