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Posted: 2/7/2006 5:00:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2006 5:01:47 PM EDT by bennymarc]
what http://www.ar15.com/forums/manageTopic.html?a=modify&b=3&f=118&t=268118C:\Documents and Settings\marc.1\Desktop\ar15 da outlook\ar2 (1).JPG
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:03:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:51:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 4:56:05 PM EDT by bennymarc]
Thanks Stickman
,,,, in Italy is very simple to send a image , http://www.filehigh.com/serve/15025/129100.jpg
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:08:37 PM EDT
now wait a min. Are you telling me that norinco makes an AR 15. Man I have just totaly missed the boat on that one.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:19:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mrassII:
now wait a min. Are you telling me that norinco makes an AR 15. Man I have just totaly missed the boat on that one.



I think Norinco makes just about one of everything. Just can't get any of it (newer stuff) in the US.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:19:39 PM EDT
what do u mean?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:21:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bennymarc:
what do u mean?



Me? or mrassII?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:23:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 5:24:49 PM EDT by bennymarc]
mrassII!!!
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:16:48 PM EDT
Chinese weapons imports have been halted since Bill Clinton's days.


Yes, Norinco makes an AR15 knockoff.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 9:26:50 PM EDT
Benny, It looks like you have some cool militaria in your collection.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 12:15:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 12:29:56 AM EDT by bennymarc]
Yes, do you like militaria?I have german and italian militaria second w.war.....
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:01:31 AM EDT
Norinco did make an AR15 clone rifle, though they are quite rare in America being more common in Canada due to differences in legislation. They look much like a SP1/A1 except they have a distinctive handguard and pistol grip. Even if you HAD wanted to buy one years ago, I don't think you would have been able to due to the limited number imported and import restrictions. Around one thousand of these rifles were found in a warehouse in San Diego about a year ago which had been imported before the ban, and I believe they were sold. Small Arms review did a write up these a few months back and they gave it a favorable review.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:04:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 7:05:02 AM EDT by ironsight-boy]
I only have experience with Norinco AK's but if their AR's are held to the same 'quality standard' then I dont want one. They are showy but if like their AK's, their internals suck and they cant shoot worth ***t.


BTW: I like the militaria. Post more.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:15:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 7:16:09 AM EDT by Frens]
Norinco products are quite common here in Italy (M16A1 & M14 clone) since american AR15 are expensive and hard to find.


nice rifles mate ;-)
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:44:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Frens:
Norinco products are quite common here in Italy (M16A1 & M14 clone) since american AR15 are expensive and hard to find.


nice rifles mate ;-)



somethimes i wish that norincos were common here

what are ITY's laws on AR/firearm ownership--strict?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:59:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By Frens:
Norinco products are quite common here in Italy (M16A1 & M14 clone) since american AR15 are expensive and hard to find.


nice rifles mate ;-)



somethimes i wish that norincos were common here

what are ITY's laws on AR/firearm ownership--strict?




here is a good reading about italian gun laws



Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:03:00 AM EDT
Frens da dove dgt ? ho visto che sei qui gia' dal 03 , percaso stai anche in italia in qualche sito di armi?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:10:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 10:11:22 AM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By Frens:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By Frens:
Norinco products are quite common here in Italy (M16A1 & M14 clone) since american AR15 are expensive and hard to find.


nice rifles mate ;-)



somethimes i wish that norincos were common here

what are ITY's laws on AR/firearm ownership--strict?




here is a good reading about italian gun laws






gotcha, thanks


Frens da dove dgt ? ho visto che sei qui gia' dal 03 , percaso stai anche in italia in qualche sito di armi?

gota quick translation--never took italian
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:22:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 10:32:09 AM EDT by Frens]
I'm from Vicenza mate...what about you?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:34:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ABNAK:
Chinese weapons imports have been halted since Bill Clinton's days.


Yes, Norinco makes an AR15 knockoff.




No it was Bush Sr. that fucked us on that.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:40:29 AM EDT
why would an american buy a norinco clone?

...you can buy the highest quality AR's in the world for 800-1000USD
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:43:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Frens:
why would an american buy a norinco clone?

...you can buy the highest quality AR's in the world for 800-1000USD



not norico clone ARs--they SUCK (or at least look sucky)--no offence to yall

but Norinco AKs, M14Ss, 1911s kick a** for the $$$s--expecially the AKs (best AKs ever made!)
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 10:54:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By Frens:
why would an american buy a norinco clone?

...you can buy the highest quality AR's in the world for 800-1000USD



not norico clone ARs--they SUCK (or at least look sucky)--no offence to yall

but Norinco AKs, M14Ss, 1911s kick a** for the $$$s--expecially the AKs (best AKs ever made!)



no offence at all. I don't have a norinco.

I knew norinco's AK are good but I wasn't sure about M14s and 1911s
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:02:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 11:03:35 AM EDT by Just_Charlie]
Is the OD green of handguard, grip and stock came from factory or custom paint job by the owner?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:04:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 5:30:11 PM EDT by bennymarc]
For frens I'm from sicily! for Alphaghost , in italy you have a nice nik name you are a" testa di minchia" , do u undestand ? to just-chalye the sets are cavalry's .green cavalry .
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:18:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 11:24:07 AM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By bennymarc:
For frens I'm from sicily! for Alphaghost , in italy you have a nice nik name you are a" testa di minchia" , u undestand ? to just-chalye the sets are cavalry's .green cavalry .



WTF? i'm a di*k head, wtf? what the hell did i do/say?
under Italy's laws, i guess that having a norinco AR is better than NOT---> my appologies
at least you spiffied up the qulality of the furniture!
and they would kick the heck outta a vulcan/hesse i bet
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:22:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Frens:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By Frens:
why would an american buy a norinco clone?

...you can buy the highest quality AR's in the world for 800-1000USD



not norico clone ARs--they SUCK (or at least look sucky)--no offence to yall

but Norinco AKs, M14Ss, 1911s kick a** for the $$$s--expecially the AKs (best AKs ever made!)



no offence at all. I don't have a norinco.

I knew norinco's AK are good but I wasn't sure about M14s and 1911s



they are some of the best for the prices--but tough to find around here anymore
h/w, Norincos will be the only thing that i will admit that is made in china that was actually made decently (everything else for sale here thats made in china has pretty poor manufacturing)
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:26:32 AM EDT
Norinco AK's suck. The parts inside are made of sh** steel and crumble before a pallete of ammo is shot through it. THey are the crappiest AK throw-togethers I have ever used. But then again I am used to a Robinson Armament AK.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:32:45 AM EDT
So is it Italian import laws or US export laws that make US made AR type rifles hard to get in Italy?

And yes I read the link. Thanks
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:43:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
So is it Italian import laws or US export laws that make US made AR type rifles hard to get in Italy?

And yes I read the link. Thanks



italian import laws aren't that bad...not great but not too bad.
now the real problem are US export laws...after 9/11 is gettin harder and harder to export rifles. PaoloOrange is trying to import here in Italy a Colt MT6400 and he's having a lot of problem with the US State Dept.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:45:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 11:45:26 AM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By ironsight-boy:
Norinco AK's suck. The parts inside are made of sh** steel and crumble before a pallete of ammo is shot through it. THey are the crappiest AK throw-togethers I have ever used. But then again I am used to a Robinson Armament AK.



while there are some crappy ones (like the banned ones) when they were available, noricos were the best priced AKs for the money--true not as good and tight as the robarms, but good enough
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:04:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frens:

Originally Posted By CRC:
So is it Italian import laws or US export laws that make US made AR type rifles hard to get in Italy?

And yes I read the link. Thanks



italian import laws aren't that bad...not great but not too bad.
now the real problem are US export laws...after 9/11 is gettin harder and harder to export rifles. PaoloOrange is trying to import here in Italy a Colt MT6400 and he's having a lot of problem with the US State Dept.



That sucks but our state dept is full of inept bureaucrats
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:50:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ironsight-boy:
Norinco AK's suck. The parts inside are made of sh** steel and crumble before a pallete of ammo is shot through it. THey are the crappiest AK throw-togethers I have ever used. But then again I am used to a Robinson Armament AK.



That has not been my experience. The most worth while $219 I have ever spent.

Cheers
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:53:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frens:
why would an american buy a norinco clone?

...you can buy the highest quality AR's in the world for 800-1000USD



To save for their Chinese made Tacpoint
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