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Posted: 2/3/2006 7:24:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2006 6:14:10 PM EDT by JL7]
www.adcofirearms.com/rockriver/upperbuild.cfm?page=rra
http://www.besthdw.com/test/nypdm4.jpg
www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=3840
http://www.besthdw.com/test/pkg2.jpg

what do you think, should i go with the M4 with the DD 7.0 or the 16" mid with the DD 9.0, cant make up my mind and i want to order in the morning. any help/ideas would be great

pictures from ADCO
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 7:27:57 PM EDT
I'd go with the middy.

But I've already got an M4gery.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 7:31:04 PM EDT
Middy
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 8:22:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 10:52:47 AM EDT by JL7]
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 8:30:29 PM EDT
Middy.


Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:17:19 AM EDT
Get the Middy. SO much nicer to shoot.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 10:21:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 10:53:02 AM EDT by JL7]
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 10:25:36 AM EDT
Mid.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 12:53:54 PM EDT
both !!
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 12:58:44 PM EDT
I like mid-lengths.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:26:31 PM EDT
Midlength first. Absolutely. From someone who owns both.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:31:21 PM EDT
Unless you're gonna launch grenades, I'd say choose the midlength. Why not?

GL
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:35:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2006 1:36:20 PM EDT by swenis]
Just go with what you like better. Those are both great choices, and you'll be pleased with either one.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:36:20 PM EDT
Middy baby.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:36:57 PM EDT
I'd go with the Mid-Length!
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:38:37 PM EDT
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.


Pic link of my custom Colt middy

Pic link of my LMT 16" M4gery
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:40:34 PM EDT
MID --
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:44:10 PM EDT
so far the mid seems to be the overwhelming favorite. im leaning that way
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 2:39:56 PM EDT
All you guys are saying mid length of M4gery... but WHY? What is the reason?

I already own a 20" Bushmaster and am trying to decide between an M4gery or a Midlength and can't decide. Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 3:24:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Accord:
All you guys are saying mid length of M4gery... but WHY? What is the reason?

I already own a 20" Bushmaster and am trying to decide between an M4gery or a Midlength and can't decide. Thanks.



The mid length gas system cycles smoother, is easier on parts and has less muzzle rise.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 3:42:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.


Pic link of my custom Colt middy

Pic link of my LMT 16" M4gery



what upper you have there Alpha-Romeo?

Nice looking shooter!


I'd go with the Middy also
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 4:31:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2006 4:33:14 PM EDT by SelectFire]
Originally Posted By redfisher:
Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.

+1
That's my plan....ADCO rocks! I love those guys. Well, you know what I mean.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 5:02:28 PM EDT
Midlength just because I don't have one.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 9:01:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.


Pic link of my custom Colt middy

Pic link of my LMT 16" M4gery



what upper you have there Alpha-Romeo?

Nice looking shooter!


I'd go with the Middy also


My middy upper started out as a Colt 6721 tactical carbine M4 upper with the stock H-BAR barrel and after test firing it stock, I decided to replace the barrel with a new mid length gas system barrel.

The barrel is a mid weight contour Rockcreek (Mike Rock), Mil-Spec chrome moly vanadium, chrome lined, 1/7, M4 feedramps, high pressure and MP tested "Operator" from Denny's Guns (Global Tactical Supply).

My new mid length, mid weight barrel made my 6721 handle better and easy to carry around because of the lighter barrel, I really don't prefer H-BAR barrels.

I also replaced the handguards with LaRue 9.0 rails. I'm also using a Colt M16 BCG with Wolff extra power extractor spring.

My other CAR M4gery upper is made by LMT.

Both my carbines shoots fine but the middy feels a little smoother and is my favorite so far.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 9:21:30 PM EDT
midlength. Forget about the M4 look until you get an SBR and have extra cash lying around for a second upper. Then get a 14.5 and A2.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 9:22:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.


Pic link of my custom Colt middy

Pic link of my LMT 16" M4gery



Man, that Colt custom middy is TITS!! I always wanted an LMT or Colt middy, and never thought of customizing a barrel myself...
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 9:25:48 PM EDT
--barrel is a mid weight contour Rockcreek (Mike Rock), Mil-Spec chrome moly vanadium, chrome lined, 1/7, M4 feedramps--

I really want one of those barrels !
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 9:33:11 PM EDT
Middy........I love mine
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 10:07:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By books:

Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:
ARFCOM way is always to get both which is the way I did it myself.

Get the middy first then the M4.

Good luck.


Pic link of my custom Colt middy

Pic link of my LMT 16" M4gery



Man, that Colt custom middy is TITS!! I always wanted an LMT or Colt middy, and never thought of customizing a barrel myself...


Thanks, yes it's easy to remove and replace the barrel to a middy all that's needed is an average assembly skill and tools, I did it myself.

The beauty of the AR-15 system what ever the brand, is that it could be customized to your liking and there are more and more available mid length barrels now like Denny's Operator, Denny's SS Recon, RRA stock or custom contoured by ADCO, CMMG, Sabre Defence, etc. and more coming from Bravo Co. Mfg in March.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 6:00:27 AM EDT
Your eventually going to have both , so myself I would go with the middy first , then the M4 . Pick the one you like the best get it now figguring on getting the other next . Thats how I look at it .
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 6:55:26 AM EDT
Has anyone taken a middy to a carbine class? If yes, did the extra weight matter to you?
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 11:37:58 AM EDT
I have both and my midi is first out of the bag....

Link Posted: 2/5/2006 12:56:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sharkbait:
--barrel is a mid weight contour Rockcreek (Mike Rock), Mil-Spec chrome moly vanadium, chrome lined, 1/7, M4 feedramps--

I really want one of those barrels !


Denny of Global Tactical Supply at the EE are always going to sell the "Operator" barrel, they are out of stock for now but they are making another batch and should be available in a couple of months from now.

I also forgot to mention that the Operator barrel is full auto rated because that is the primary design goal of this barrel because Denny is a machine gun guy.


Ref: Operator mid length barrel thread link
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:53:14 PM EDT
ordered the mid from steve at ADCO shipped same day +1 for ADCO. If UPS doesnt f*&k it up it will be here on tuesday.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:19:08 PM EDT
One quick question on Mid-Lengths....

What type of handguards are typically used (Not including railed) M4, CAR, or a special lenght?
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:29:05 PM EDT
they use a mid length handguard
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:44:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 556A2:
One quick question on Mid-Lengths....

What type of handguards are typically used (Not including railed) M4, CAR, or a special lenght?


Standard handguards for the mid-length gas system barrels are a special mid-length size which is approx. 9 inches long, for reference the CAR/ M4 are about 7 inches long and the rifle full length are about 12 inches long.

There are two styles of standard handguards available for the mid-length, a tapered CAR type and an oval section shape M4 type.

The handguards are available from CavalryArms.com in three colors, black, green and coyote brown and priced from $30 to $35.

They're also available from major manufacturers like Armalite, RRA, Sabre Defence and others.

The mid-length handguards usually fit the triangular (rifle type) front handguard caps.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:54:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Alpha-Romeo3:

Originally Posted By 556A2:
One quick question on Mid-Lengths....

What type of handguards are typically used (Not including railed) M4, CAR, or a special lenght?


Standard handguards for the mid-length gas system barrels are a special mid-length size which is approx. 9 inches long, for reference the CAR/ M4 are about 7 inches long and the rifle full length are about 12 inches long.

There are two styles of standard handguards available for the mid-length, a tapered CAR type and an oval section shape M4 type.

The handguards are available from CavalryArms.com in three colors, black, green and coyote brown and priced from $30 to $35.

They're also available from major manufacturers like Armalite, RRA, Sabre Defence and others.

The mid-length handguards usually fit the triangular (rifle type) front handguard caps.



Okay, 2 more questions about mid-lengths......

Are they like Bushmaster's Dissapator(sp)? and can they mount a bayonet?
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:59:50 PM EDT
they can mount a boyonet. the dissapator uses the longer 12" handguard
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:10:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 556A2:

Okay, 2 more questions about mid-lengths......

Are they like Bushmaster's Dissapator(sp)? and can they mount a bayonet?



Originally Posted By animalmother:

they can mount a boyonet. the dissapator uses the longer 12" handguard


+1 what animalmother said is correct.

I just wanted to add that the Dissipator types uses a special bayonet with a very short handle.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:12:58 PM EDT
Cool deal.

I'm still trying to decide on what upper to put on my lower. I have pretty much settled on a lightweight A2 upper or an M4gery upper. Now I got another contender in the ring.

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:44:32 AM EDT
on the truck for delivery
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