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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:38:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 11:10:23 AM EDT by crazyhorse705]
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 6:40:26 PM EDT
check out the last pic he has his surefire hogtied with rope.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:06:00 PM EDT
I see two thumb screws.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:15:22 PM EDT
I'm guessing it's so that if something falls off, it stays leashed to the rifle? Seems like his scope also has the paracord around it.

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:17:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 8:18:55 PM EDT by alex_all_alone]
When I was in, we used 100mph tape, or para cord, just to make sure that nothing fell off if the screws rattled loose.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:18:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 8:18:38 PM EDT by FightingHellfish]

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:
check out the last pic he has his surefire hogtied with rope.



Some people are big advocates of using 550 cord or zip ties to double secure EVERYTHING, right down to, and including, $2 canteens.

This is especially true in Army Airborne units or units that have a lot of NCOs from Airborne units.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:21:03 PM EDT
hehehe, "Dummy Cord" would be the term for the 550 Cord on the light and other sensitive items. I suppose anybody that was looking to replicate the militarys weapons would need to do the same.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:24:40 PM EDT
Sweet Pics!!
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:29:12 PM EDT
Thanks, great pics. They do make me feel like I'm getting old, especially the 3rd pic. That guy looks like he's 12!
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:37:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paradude54:
Thanks, great pics. They do make me feel like I'm getting old, especially the 3rd pic. That guy looks like he's 12!



lmao i was thinking that.im not military but damn he looks young.


i got all these pics off www.army.mil

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:39:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cyclic240B:
hehehe, "Dummy Cord" would be the term for the 550 Cord on the light and other sensitive items. I suppose anybody that was looking to replicate the militarys weapons would need to do the same.





the only reason i brought that up was some of the recent gun magazines have shown scope or lights or other thing tied up like that.and that was for police snipers guns not military.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:45:52 PM EDT
Sweet pics!

Is that a knife stuck in the mag carrier in the first pic?

Gunner45
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:47:06 PM EDT
yup im a newb. whats mounted infont of the eotech in the first pic? Laser sighting + some light on the other side?

Its nice to see something beat up rather than all perfect and shiney.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:57:25 PM EDT
every thing I had was 550 corded when I was in the 82nd



Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:
check out the last pic he has his surefire hogtied with rope.



Some people are big advocates of using 550 cord or zip ties to double secure EVERYTHING, right down to, and including, $2 canteens.

This is especially true in Army Airborne units or units that have a lot of NCOs from Airborne units.

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:00:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SHNIPE:
yup im a newb. whats mounted infont of the eotech in the first pic? Laser sighting + some light on the other side?

Its nice to see something beat up rather than all perfect and shiney.



I believe its an IR designator.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 9:17:07 PM EDT by crazyhorse705]
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:04:03 PM EDT
Ha that first guy has an M3 light on his AR, instead of an expensive Surefire rig. What a noob!

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:06:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 9:07:34 PM EDT by BOYSCOUT4LIFE]
Pic #4 looks to have been taken in se. U.S. pinetress? Benning, Bragg, etc.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:08:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:


Some people are big advocates of using 550 cord or zip ties to double secure EVERYTHING, right down to, and including, $2 canteens.



The canteen might be worth $2, but the water inside is worth hundreds if you're thirsty.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:22:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BOYSCOUT4LIFE:
Pic #4 looks to have been taken in se. U.S. pinetress? Benning, Bragg, etc.



ok i got one wrong but they were training to head to iraq so i was close.

Sgt. Steven Bielland (right) and another Soldier from the 34th Brigade Combat Team, train at Camp Shelby, Miss., for their upcoming deployment to Iraq.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:33:05 PM EDT
How do you get a suppressed rifle over there? Luck of the draw?
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:34:36 PM EDT
Nobody here copies military rifles.


Military rifles have scratches.


- BG
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:41:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Nobody here copies military rifles.


Military rifles have scratches.


- BG



so true so very true. if it does they have to paint it to hide the scratch.


well i know alot of people here like to see what the military is using over there to see how closely they can replicate their ar to the militarys ar.

i can have very close to the militarys for just over 1200. 1 m4 ish type carbine and 1 a2 ish rifle.
to do it for that price they would have to be kit guns but i wont be afraid to scratch it.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:42:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fidel:
How do you get a suppressed rifle over there? Luck of the draw?



Ditto, maybe someone in the sandbox will chime in. :)
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:44:19 PM EDT
It's like a Surefire convention!

LOL

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:45:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 9:47:47 PM EDT by crazyhorse705]

Originally Posted By heavytank2:

Originally Posted By Fidel:
How do you get a suppressed rifle over there? Luck of the draw?



Ditto, maybe someone in the sandbox will chime in. :)



if its the guy in the 2nd one up top your talking about look closely at his right shoulder area verses every one elses. he has no unit patch he maybe spec ops. hence the suppressor.


nope thats not it he is 101st here is linky to explain it.

www4.army.mil/armyimages/armyimage.php?photo=8692
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:45:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
Nobody here copies military rifles.


Military rifles have scratches.


- BG





How true!!!!
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 10:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 2:34:19 AM EDT by GENESMITH]
moved
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 10:22:50 PM EDT

if its the guy in the 2nd one up top your talking about look closely at his right shoulder area verses every one elses. he has no unit patch he maybe spec ops. hence the suppressor.


He is wearing shoulder armor.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 10:52:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 10:58:16 PM EDT by ExParatrooper]
The "dummy cording" is normally Airborne unit SOP. EVERYTHING has to be tied down - even pouches to your LCE, regardless of how they are originally attached. The main point is to keep that canteen or loaded mag pouch from coming loose and smacking some poor jumper below at terminal velocity. Smart operators not required to dummy cord stuff do it to keep gear from getting lost or dropped due to a mount breaking. The above rule wouldn't matter on weapons, as they are completely encased in 1950's (airborne rig weapons case).

And no, it ain't like Hollywood. Paratroopers don't make 300 meter head shots while descending in their chutes. Weapons don't come out till jumper is on the DZ, although I have seen some SF guys tie MP5's off without a case to a drop leg harness on a HALO rig.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:48:36 PM EDT
those banged up rifles are pure SEXINESS!!!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 2:27:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:
MORE PICS



HI-RES
i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/CSA-2005-12-21-084752.jpg
HI-RES
i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/CSA-2006-01-23-105230.jpg
HI-RES




For you OIF vets, are there many M4's (vs M4A1) in use?


Just curious

Great photos, thanks for posting them here, crazy.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:05:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 4:06:48 AM EDT by hardcorps1775]

Originally Posted By SHNIPE:
yup im a newb. whats mounted infont of the eotech in the first pic? Laser sighting + some light on the other side?

Its nice to see something beat up rather than all perfect and shiney.


didn't see anyone else answer this so i'll take a shot...

the thing on top is a paq-4, an ir aiming light. the thing on the bottom looks like a small flashlight maybe with a momentary "on" button in the buttcap?

man, all these different stocks, different lights, different sights; it's a logistical nightmare!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:18:51 AM EDT
who else has an itch for an ACOG?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:22:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheMocoMan:
who else has an itch for an ACOG?


i gotta admit, if i won the lottery, that'd be one of the first things i'd buy!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:23:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fidel:
How do you get a suppressed rifle over there? Luck of the draw?




Nope. Issued according to mission requirements.

Also note that's a Trijicon TA11.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:24:47 AM EDT
What Rail system are they using in the first two pix at the start of the thread?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:51:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 8car:
What Rail system are they using in the first two pix at the start of the thread?




Hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure its the KAC M4 RAS.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:02:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:
MORE PICS


i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/CSA-2005-09-01-090159.jpg
HI-RES
i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/CSA-2005-12-21-084752.jpg
HI-RES
i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/CSA-2006-01-23-105230.jpg
HI-RES




For you OIF vets, are there many M4's (vs M4A1) in use?


Just curious

Great photos, thanks for posting them here, crazy.



I just got back last month after a year tour, and M4's were by far more prevalent. I am pretty sure only SF/Ranger units get M4A1's. That was the Army, I dunno about the other services though, all the NSW guys(SEALS) had M4A1's...
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:05:29 AM EDT
Tag this bitch to all the whiners crying about how to get "the OH MY GOD! scratch off the inside of my mag well" or "is it gonna affect the performance of my AR if I have scratches on my brass deflector?". What a hoot!


THOSE ARE AWESOME TOOLS!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:26:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 5:26:38 AM EDT by bigbore]
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:28:21 AM EDT
What scope is that in the last pic?
Pic
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:32:00 AM EDT
Notice how many are not using BUIS?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 5:58:13 AM EDT
Hump your ass back a klick or two with a very unhappy squad leader at your side to find a missing piece of Miles Gear and you'll tie/tape/nail/superglue all your shit.

I had it happen once. That was enough for me.

Damn helmet unit was made for a steel pot, not a Kevlar.

And if anyone is around Al Jaber, keep your eyes open for a Spyderco, I lost the damn thing off my Interceptor when I jumped down from an Up Armored Hummer. Damn thing was brand new too.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:30:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 7:31:12 AM EDT by bloodmoon]

Originally Posted By ExParatrooper:
The "dummy cording" is normally Airborne unit SOP. EVERYTHING has to be tied down - even pouches to your LCE, regardless of how they are originally attached. The main point is to keep that canteen or loaded mag pouch from coming loose and smacking some poor jumper below at terminal velocity. Smart operators not required to dummy cord stuff do it to keep gear from getting lost or dropped due to a mount breaking. The above rule wouldn't matter on weapons, as they are completely encased in 1950's (airborne rig weapons case).

And no, it ain't like Hollywood. Paratroopers don't make 300 meter head shots while descending in their chutes. Weapons don't come out till jumper is on the DZ, although I have seen some SF guys tie MP5's off without a case to a drop leg harness on a HALO rig.

I dont know about the 82nd but I do know about the the 1 Cav. We dummy corded everything to ourselves and the weapon. In some cases constant fuckups had to have the weapon dummy corded to them didnt matter if it was an M16a2 or a 240B. If you look at my pics on the pics page you will see that I still dummy cord everything to my weapon. If you are just bench shooting it is not a problem. If you intend in any way to use that weapon ever for self defense or bugging out you should have your main weapon dummycorded every part that is loose or makes noise should be silenced with tape or somer kind of dummy cord.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:40:36 AM EDT
i noticed all of these guys have optics of some sort or another. i was under the impression that they were just given irons and depending on the unit (and ur lucky) you'll get some optics?

nice pics, thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:45:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
What scope is that in the last pic?
Pic




+1 I'm curious too. Anyone?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:01:40 AM EDT
I saw a pic recently from army.mil that I could have SWORN was a rifle with a Bushmaster logo.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:17:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Blue_Genes:
I saw a pic recently from army.mil that I could have SWORN was a rifle with a Bushmaster logo.



ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=123&t=409168
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:24:35 AM EDT
don't cut on the dummy cord y'all... It actually does come in handy on things from time to time


On anotehr note I copy, nobody will sell me the DBAL
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:26:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheMocoMan:
who else has an itch for an ACOG?



nope, got one
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