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Posted: 1/8/2006 5:39:37 PM EDT
I got my first AR a couple of weeks ago and finally got to the range to shoot it. Nothing really exciting to report but here it is...

I shot about 150 rounds of S&B M193 setting IBZ and just messing around. There is were no failures and no hiccups of any kind. The trigger was initially quite gritty with a fair amount of creep. At the end of the day, most of the grit was gone, but the creep is still there. I don't know if I just got used to it or if the smoothing of the trigger pull made the creep less noticable, but it wasn't bothering me too much at the end.

I don't really no what else to say but I'll answer whatever questions anybody has. Like I said, this is my first AR and really the first rifle bigger than a .22 that I have ever spent much time shooting and the first time in a very long time that I have shot peep sights.

You guys that shoot a lot would probably be disapointed with the results below, but I was quite happy with the first time with an AR.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4913/case4hj.jpg
Sabre M4Gery

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5441/50yds3ic.jpg
50yds

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1613/100yds8qe.jpg
100yds
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 5:47:12 PM EDT
Could you post a closeup of the lower? Is that a factory build Sabre? I understand they have different logos for factory build guns.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 5:49:50 PM EDT
Nice...I have a Sabre middy. (my first) You're target there in the background @ 50 yds...I can only keep everything in the 8-ring @ 50 yds. Haven't gotten it sited in well yet...but I am REALLY hoping I can consistantly do better next range trip. Nice first AR man...chrome lined?
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 5:56:01 PM EDT
Not bad! Not bad at all! Great results from a reasonably priced build!
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:04:39 PM EDT
That 100 yd group is nothing to be ashamed of.

I bet your vertical stringing is probably due to being rusty with irons. Focus 110% on the front sight and watch your group shrink like magic.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:28:39 PM EDT
The 100yd target was a bit tough because I had three of those shoot-n-c targets lined up and I had a hard time seeing the front sight with all of the black on the target. I think it would have been easier if I was shooting at the same targets at 100 as I was at 50. I'll know better next time, I have much to learn...

The unit is chrome lined and complete from Sabre. I can't find the thread with my earlier pics, here are some again.

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/4242/dscn17316hu.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/7162/catlogo2pa.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9213/shout3dj.jpg
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:29:17 PM EDT
What position were you shooting from?

Nice rifle, I'd like to build/buy something very similar to that sometime this year.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:48:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RRA-A2:
What position were you shooting from?

Nice rifle, I'd like to build/buy something very similar to that sometime this year.



I was sitting at a bench using a plastic rest in front, unsupported in back. Sandbags would have helped. I really need to find a decent place to shoot.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:53:50 PM EDT
Quick question...are you suppose to focus on the front site post or the target?
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:13:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2006 7:15:32 PM EDT by Cyclic240B]

Originally Posted By WyattWright:
I can't find the thread with my earlier pics, here are some again.



Here you go Sir....

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=262981

*edit* I think the full function search feature is worth an ARFCOM membership
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:14:09 PM EDT
gotta love sabre, they make an outstanding firearm.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:19:26 PM EDT
Very nice!!! Its refreshing to see a new gun without all of the add ons.... Keep it simple!! They are much sexier that way....
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:27:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JackalAR:
Quick question...are you suppose to focus on the front site post or the target?


Front sight.

About 95% of the people who complain that their eyes aren't good enough say so because they think they have to ba able to see the target and the front sight in equal clarity. That is impossible due to the physics of lenses.

Some people, in their young age, have an ability to accomodate (change visual focus) so fast that it appears to them they can see both near and far object equally clearly at the same time. That ability goes away pretty fast by the mid 20s, if you even had it at all.

But super fast visual accomodation is irrelevant because any Highpower High Master will tell you they got there by focusing 100% on the front sight, regardless of how good their eyes might be.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:28:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WyattWright:
The 100yd target was a bit tough because I had three of those shoot-n-c targets lined up and I had a hard time seeing the front sight with all of the black on the target.



Next time, use the big square, but run your elevation knob four clicks up and put the top of the front sight on the bottom edge of the black square.
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