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Posted: 12/29/2005 3:18:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 3:33:26 PM EDT by stretch415]
My dad has had his Colt A1 since the 70s and I told him he should consider selling it and getting a mutt gun since he uses it alot and it may possible be collectable. So if you could give me an idea of what its worth I would appreciate it. I have the original a1 grip also so its all original. Originally paid $450ish back in the day

Also a possible price on the DPMS. Just a $100 tasco tactical scope on it but as far as the rifle itself what kind of price. I think he paid under $600 for it.

Colt SP1-





DPMS-


Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:30:16 PM EDT
Also cant seem to find the year on the SP1. Serial # is SP171XXX
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:33:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By stretch415:
Also cant seem to find the year on the SP1. Serial # is SP171XXX



1971?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:36:23 PM EDT
really haha that was easy enough. Also has the original 4X Colt optic
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:49:36 PM EDT
Both are worth about $2.50 each, but I'll give you $10 for both...

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Seriously, I'm not really an expert on the values of the old A1s, but I do know that ones in that codition usually are worth a lot. One of the gun geeks wise AR-15 sages will be by in a bit to help you out, i'm sure.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:59:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MurdockTheCrazy:
Both are worth about $2.50 each, but I'll give you $10 for both...

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Seriously, I'm not really an expert on the values of the old A1s, but I do know that ones in that codition usually are worth a lot. One of the gun geeks wise AR-15 sages will be by in a bit to help you out, i'm sure.


Jeepers mister that sounds like a swell deal......................
Ya im kinda hoping one of the nerds chimes in here pretty soon. I just want a ballpark figure
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:18:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 4:22:30 PM EDT by mm34b]
Colt AR-15 SP-1 (R6000)

- .223 Rem. cal., original Colt paramilitary configuration without forward bolt assist, 20 in. barrel with 1:12 in. twist, identifiable by the triangular shaped handguards/forearm, no case deflector, A1 sights, finishes included parkerizing and electroless nickel, approx. 6 3/4 lbs. Mfg. 1963-84.

Grading

100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$1,950 $1,825 $1,700 $1,575 $1,450 $1,250 $1,050

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:30:37 PM EDT
You cannot get those prices around here. I paid $900 for my Colt SP1 (1971 vintage) which I would grade at 80%. Since the ban fell, I dont think they dropped much.... but there are WAY too many out there to call them much of a collectors item, especially not once it has been fired. Locally, I'd say $850 to $1100, depending on the buyer. Those scopes are worth $200 to $300 typically, to collectors, if they are really clean.

I would keep it if he likes it, or send it up to NY and get two or three stripped lowers in return.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:35:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALARAK:
You cannot get those prices around here. I paid $900 for my Colt SP1 (1971 vintage) which I would grade at 80%. Since the ban fell, I dont think they dropped much.... but there are WAY too many out there to call them much of a collectors item, especially not once it has been fired. Locally, I'd say $850 to $1100, depending on the buyer. Those scopes are worth $200 to $300 typically, to collectors, if they are really clean.

I would keep it if he likes it, or send it up to NY and get two or three stripped lowers in return.



Hmm so $1400ish high end for the package. Any idea on the DPMS?
He likes it but I think its becuase its all hes ever known. He is always buying cheapy accessories to go on it(as we speak a $40 light/laser) so its not a concern of his to be an original colt. I just tell him we should sell it and get a m4gery for him to plink/hunt with. Not to mention a few accessories with the left over money.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:49:21 PM EDT
That gun is from the 80s. I had a SP129xxx I bought NIB at the end of 1980.

It is also not in a stock configuration, you need to get an A1 grip on there. Of course if you do not have the original grip, you have really lost some of the authenticity of the gun.

Do you have the original box? The two original 20 round magazines with 5 shot blocks? What about the original manual? Without all of those things, it is really not a "collectible", but more of an old and out-dated AR-15.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:56:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 5:12:14 PM EDT by stretch415]

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
That gun is from the 80s. I had a SP129xxx I bought NIB at the end of 1980.

It is also not in a stock configuration, you need to get an A1 grip on there. Of course if you do not have the original grip, you have really lost some of the authenticity of the gun.

Do you have the original box? The two original 20 round magazines with 5 shot blocks? What about the original manual? Without all of those things, it is really not a "collectible", but more of an old and out-dated AR-15.



I have the original grip as stated. I know the manual is around somewere but the box is long gone. As far as original mags I beleive they may be around also.
serial # link
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:00:50 PM EDT
I bought a semi original SP1 Serial number 183,XXX. I called colt and it was made in 1982. Yours would be an 1981 and possible but unlikely 82. Just call Colt if you want. It's free to find out the year. I paid $600.00 and it was to much. I have been shopping for these guns. You can buy a 95% for $995 .00 it seems pretty easily. So at $600.00 I got scr!@#$. If to gun is between 90% to 100% you should be able to get $850.00 to $1000.00 for it on Guns of America. Go on there do a search and you'll see what I mean. I just passed on a 98% one for $925.00 with shipping in MN. I still have that guys name if anyone is interested. But, I have spent alot of time the past 2 weeks figureing all this out. Just wondering how bad I got it. I will never buy another site unseen gun adn then leave town before it gets here. Oh well, Good luck. If I was him. I would just clean it up... And put lots of lube on it. Store it for a few years. Maybe shoot it sometimes. But definately keep it.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:06:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 5:16:06 PM EDT by Pstores]
No it's 100,000 range not 16,000 number range. You'd be right if it was 16,000 range
1971 SP16001
1978 SP83400


Originally Posted By stretch415:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:


It is also not in a stock configuration, you need to get an A1 grip on there. Of course if you do not have the original grip, you have really lost some of the authenticity of the gun.

Do you have the original box? The two original 20 round magazines with 5 shot blocks? What about the original manual? Without all of those things, it is really not a "collectible", but more of an old and out-dated AR-15.



Next part is wrong...
The serial # actually dates back to 1971(found the link after asking). I have the original grip as stated. I know the manual is around somewere but the box is long gone. As far as original mags I beleive they may be around also.
serial # link

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:12:26 PM EDT

And the REALITY IS ..........

They ain't makin SP1s any more.

The existing ones will mostly get beat up or parted out in a few more years.

Put it up for sale and SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will meet your price , if you wait a bit.

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:14:30 PM EDT
Call 1 800 962 COLT...... They will tell you for sure. My vote is 1981. And maybe a weak maybe for 1982. That way you know for sure. But, don't call between 12 and 1 PM eastern Standard time. Out to lunch.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:14:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pstores:
No it's 100,000 range not 16,000 number range. You'd be right if it was 16,000 or higher.
1971 SP16001
1978 SP83400


Originally Posted By stretch415:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:


It is also not in a stock configuration, you need to get an A1 grip on there. Of course if you do not have the original grip, you have really lost some of the authenticity of the gun.

Do you have the original box? The two original 20 round magazines with 5 shot blocks? What about the original manual? Without all of those things, it is really not a "collectible", but more of an old and out-dated AR-15.



Next part is wrong...
The serial # actually dates back to 1971(found the link after asking). I have the original grip as stated. I know the manual is around somewere but the box is long gone. As far as original mags I beleive they may be around also.
serial # link




So the one He has is Serial # SP171XXX

Thats from 1981?
I honestly have no idea and going off what is said here.



Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:18:42 PM EDT
1 800 962 COLT.... I did last week and my serial number was 183,XXX made in 1982. So, your about 12,000 away. 1981 my guess. The Colt call is free.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:19:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AKsRule:
And the REALITY IS ..........

The existing ones will mostly get beat up or parted out in a few more years.





There are thousands and thousands of them from the 70's.... even more from the 80's. You think they are all gonna get beat up or parted out in a "few years"

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:24:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pstores:
1 800 962 COLT.... I did last week and my serial number was 183,XXX made in 1982. So, your about 12,000 away. 1981 my guess. The Colt call is free.



Thanks Ill make sure to do that.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:24:55 PM EDT
just over 212,000 made up till 1985.... That's alot of SP1's out there........
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:47:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By stretch415:
Any idea on the DPMS?



Lets see... 20" fluted bull - nice. Hi-rise upper - not so nice. Float tube, harris bipod, SPR grip, el-cheapo scop and rings.... I'd say around $700 to $900 as a package.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:55:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALARAK:

Originally Posted By stretch415:
Any idea on the DPMS?



Lets see... 20" fluted bull - nice. Hi-rise upper - not so nice. Float tube, harris bipod, SPR grip, el-cheapo scop and rings.... I'd say around $700 to $900 as a package.



Cast lower - not so nice
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:00:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pstores:
just over 212,000 made up till 1985.... That's alot of SP1's out there........



So , If we distributed those SP1 s equally - among the approximately 200 million ADULTs
in the U.S.........


That would mean about 1 of every 1000 ADULTS could own an SP1

I bet More people than that own BMWs
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