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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:02:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 6:19:42 AM EDT by Cypher214]
This is the build sheet for the AR I am about to start acquiring parts for.

Base Firearm
-KG Koted Upper/Lower from ADCO
-Sabre Defense 16” Midlength Barrel
-CMT Bolt, Bolt Carrier, CH
-RRA Lower Parts Kit


Accessories
-LaRue 12.0 Handguard
-LaRue Gas Block
-LaRue ACOG Mount
-Trijicon ACOG TA-11F
-MagPul M93B - OD
-MagPul MIAD - OD
-Troy Flip Up Rear BUIS
-Troy Flip Up Front BUIS
-SureFire M96LC
-Dieter CQD Vertical Grip
-Vortex
-PRI Big Latch
-KNS Anti-Rotation Pins
-Troy Single Point Sling - OD
-3-MagPul Ladders - Black
-12-30rnd Magazine with Ranger Plates and MagPul Followers
-2- Cases M855


ADCO KG Gunkote OD following items:
-Barrel
-LaRue 12.0
-CQD Vertical Grip

All assembly done by me. Obviously, I have built a few AR's before...

I hope this one will suit my every need.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 10:12:56 PM EDT
Everything looks good except the sling. I would pick another. I have a Troy and a Northeast tactical single point slings. The NE unit is better made and the cheesy shoulder pad on the Troy sling ain't that comfortable and will probably wear quickly.

northeasttactical.com/OnePt.html
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 10:45:03 PM EDT
Vortex
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:04:25 PM EDT
I'd go with a Stag LPK instead of RRA. And depending on timeframe and budget you might think about a Denny's midlength "operator" barrel instead of the Sabre, once he gets more of them made (couple months probably) if you want to stay with chrome lined. Or go all out with a Noveske stainless barrel. Otherwise nice rifle you have planned there.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 2:38:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 2:40:50 AM EDT by demusn1979]
Don't forget to send it to me for unbiased testing and evaluation.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 5:40:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 5:40:57 AM EDT by ar-jedi]

i would get an MSTN quiet comp.

also see
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=231558

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:19:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GhostRing:
Vortex



That is planned, but I forgot to include it.

As for the Troy sling, I had a troy and really liked it so I'm going back with the same sling. I actually like the shoulder pad.

The Sabre barrel was chosen over the Denny's and Noveske barrels because I wanted a bbl that is light under the handguards. I am only looking for good combat accuracy so a super high quality barrel that is capable of sub-MOA would be a waste.

Why a MSTN Quiet-comp? I've never... ever wanted a brake on an AR-15. If I was building a 3-gun rig or something, then I would see the point.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:32:03 AM EDT
Does CMMG offer mid-length barrels? I can't access their website to check. If they do, I'd go with theirs. Very high quality barrels. My 16" M4 barrel can shoot about 1" with South African 5.56 believe it or not. I'd also put a Phantom 5c2 on there instead of the Vortex. The phantom doesn't reduce flash quite as much, but it's a closed design so it's less likely branches or other no good crap will get snagged in there. That's one high-dollar rig you're making there, should come out really nice regardless. MJD
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 2:20:00 PM EDT
Get better ammo.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 3:20:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DevL:
Get better ammo.



What's wrong with Mil-Spec M855 or SS109?

Q3131 or XM193 are the only other options (for good stuff) and I don't see where they are any better than M855.

I've shot all of the above and couldn't tell a difference in any of it.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 3:24:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gamma762:
I'd go with a Stag LPK instead of RRA. And depending on timeframe and budget you might think about a Denny's midlength "operator" barrel instead of the Sabre, once he gets more of them made (couple months probably) if you want to stay with chrome lined. Or go all out with a Noveske stainless barrel. Otherwise nice rifle you have planned there.



Are Stag LPKs noticeably better than RRA?

I've built with a few RRA LPKs and all the parts have been good quality. Is there something about them that I don't know?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 3:26:09 PM EDT
What's it pricing out at??
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 4:47:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 200-10x:
What's it pricing out at??



A lot.

Before ammo, mags, and KG coating, it comes out to around $3100.

I'm going to try to find as many items as I can in the USED section of the EE to try to cut a bit of cost here and there.

The ACOG and Surefire drive up the cost substantially... but the best gear costs money.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:15:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By DevL:
Get better ammo.


What's wrong with Mil-Spec M855 or SS109?
Q3131 or XM193 are the only other options (for good stuff) and I don't see where they are any better than M855.
I've shot all of the above and couldn't tell a difference in any of it.



long version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#m193orm855

medium version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#m855vm193

short version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#mildefense

"M193 is probably the best choice for an all-around ammo selection"

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:44:35 PM EDT
I was thinking of that heavy load that is quite in favor these days...that MK whatever it is......but I agree...for a cost effective amo, m193 is good.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:15:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By highwayman:
Does CMMG offer mid-length barrels? I can't access their website to check. If they do, I'd go with theirs. Very high quality barrels. ... MJD


CMMG has both 16" & 18" midlength SPR barrels on the EE!
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 8:25:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ar-jedi:

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By DevL:
Get better ammo.


What's wrong with Mil-Spec M855 or SS109?
Q3131 or XM193 are the only other options (for good stuff) and I don't see where they are any better than M855.
I've shot all of the above and couldn't tell a difference in any of it.



long version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#m193orm855

medium version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#m855vm193

short version:
www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#mildefense

"M193 is probably the best choice for an all-around ammo selection"

ar-jedi




Thanks for the info.
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