Ok ok... Yeah... I know... This horse was beaten to death years ago.

But lets have it: Which rifle [in your opinion] is the most like a mil-spec M16 as legally possible, out of the box? And which rifle is most like the mil-spec M4 as legally possible, out of the box?

[note that "most like" could be read as "the one that is the least difficult to turn into legal-limit-mil-spec"].


This isn't a Bash-Bushmaster/Slam-Colt thread. Just state your opinions and any facts you have to back it. Anyone who bashes/insults an AR-15 brand in this thread has to sell one of his/her AR-15s to me for $5 [by posting in this thread, you consent to this agreement].

Registered Receiver.

Quoted: Registered Receiver.

But does that really count as "out of the box"?

I think it is time to look past mil-spec. I now think of it as a limitation rather than a bonus...

Anywho, the closest to mil-spec out of the box is probably with the manufacturer who has played the military manufacturing game before... Colt. I say that only because of the great quailty control that Colt utilizes during their production. Colt also uses forged buffer tubes in the "proper" mil spec diameter.  You will also find that they MP test barrels, shot peen and MP test bolts, and a bunch of other details like that.

All this is comming from someone who doesn't own a colt product. In fact, I intent to purchase my first colt product soon... a Colt Bolt!

Anyway, I think there are rifle configurations that surpass Colts offerings... they just dont have the same lvl of QC.

Quoted: Registered Receiver.

Not really..........

CMMG got close to Mil-Spec out-of-the-box models.

LMT and Stag Arms Limited Edition with permanently attached Phantom FS are also close but not like CMMG which could be the closest to Mil-Spec in my opinion.

CMMG lowers are RDIAS compatible.


CMMG website link

the most like a mil-spec M16 as legally possible

I know, I know!

Since there are legal M16's(or at least f/a conversions), I figured a RR would be pretty close...
Just stick it in a box and take it out again.

just goofin'

LMT upper with other junk?  Beats me what lower.