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Posted: 11/22/2005 8:50:21 AM EDT
Hi Guys,

I've got an Armalite carbine right now, with MI quadrail handguards, and I'm working on all the extras. I was thinking about a Retro AR for my next AR. I just have a couple of questions. First, is this something I would have to build? How available are the specific parts needed (i.e.- Triangle handguards, A1 upper receivers, 3-prong FH, etc.)

Lastly, could a couple of guys post some pics of their Retro AR? Full size and Carbines? Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Pat G.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 8:56:15 AM EDT
Give me a minute, and I should have a picture or two for you....
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 8:57:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2005 9:04:16 AM EDT by Stickman]
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:00:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:01:38 AM EDT
The Colt M-16 uppers from CDNNinvestments.com are hard to beat. You'd have to get the 3 prong elsewhere since they come with the A1 flash hider.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:03:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:04:13 AM EDT
Nice pics, guys. Where these builds or did you find them already assembled? Where could I look to find parts and such?

Thanks again, and regards,
Pat G.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:04:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:



Everytime I see this pic, it makes my want of one grow...that is the most eye catching gun I have ever seen on this board.

Hey Stick...did you build that or was it a complete gun that you bought?

If you built it, who made what?



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:08:16 AM EDT
Like Mark said, CDNN is the best current deal going for a retro rifle.


Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:11:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2005 9:14:54 AM EDT by Stickman]

Originally Posted By Dog1:


Everytime I see this pic, it makes my want of one grow...that is the most eye catching gun I have ever seen on this board.




Thankyou, and while I don't know about eye catching, it is probably the cheapest, or one of the cheapest. I built that out of parts for the grand total of roughly $180. Its a total mismatch of parts, but all in all, I think it looks pretty good for the price.


I always let people shoot my weapons at the range, and that one never seems to get much attention. I think there are a handful of us who like retro/ old school carbines & rifles, while most people look at me as just having old stuff.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:18:20 AM EDT
I need to retake this pic.....

Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:22:06 AM EDT
I need to take new pics. I'm embarrassed to have mine in with the works of Stickman.



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:24:20 AM EDT
Sweet!

I'm deffinately itching for one now. I looked at CDNN, and the prices seemed very reasonable. When I fall into some extra money I will deffiantely start working on one of these. Where is a good place to find some of the USGI 20rd. mags (like in the pictures)?

Thanks a bunch!
Pat G.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:26:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2005 9:26:57 AM EDT by Dog1]

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By Dog1:


Everytime I see this pic, it makes my want of one grow...that is the most eye catching gun I have ever seen on this board.




Thankyou, and while I don't know about eye catching, it is probably the cheapest, or one of the cheapest. I built that out of parts for the grand total of roughly $180. Its a total mismatch of parts, but all in all, I think it looks pretty good for the price.


I always let people shoot my weapons at the range, and that one never seems to get much attention. I think there are a handful of us who like retro/ old school carbines & rifles, while most people look at me as just having old stuff.



To me it's eye catching. It's a fighting rifle in the strictest terms. No rails, red dots, VFG, 3 point tac slings, flip-up sights and the like.

I'm going to admit that I have tossed around the ideal of ditching my M4 Bushy upper, with all the crap-M73, ARMS, Aimpoint, PRI front sight, and getting back to basics with a A1 upper like yours...

I love the old ones...I'm gathering the parts now for a carbine like yours...
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:27:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By uxb:
I need to take new pics. I'm embarrassed to have mine in with the works of Stickman.




Who are you kidding?

My cobbled together welfare retro carbine pales next to yours.....
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:27:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PatG:
Sweet!

I'm deffinately itching for one now. I looked at CDNN, and the prices seemed very reasonable. When I fall into some extra money I will deffiantely start working on one of these. Where is a good place to find some of the USGI 20rd. mags (like in the pictures)?

Thanks a bunch!
Pat G.



Check the EE in the magazines for sale section...there was one person selling Colt 20 rounders...
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 9:41:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dog1:
I'm going to admit that I have tossed around the ideal of ditching my M4 Bushy upper, with all the crap-M73, ARMS, Aimpoint, PRI front sight, and getting back to basics with a A1 upper like yours....


Un-official ARFcom motto; "Get Both"
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:02:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:19:49 AM EDT
here is my xm177e2 GAU-5/A/A





Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:20:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2005 10:21:32 AM EDT by gmtmaster]
My pics arent as good as Stickman's but..



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:36:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
My pics arent as good as Stickman's but..

img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/gmtmaster/Picture256.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/gmtmaster/Picture240.jpg




Maybe not, but the weapon is cooler.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:38:15 AM EDT
Another retro thread!



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:40:46 AM EDT
Damn you guys all to hell !

You jokers got me all nostalgic for a retro. I guess I'll have myself a winter project now.

Thanks to all.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:42:44 AM EDT
Quote from eklilwhoa

here is my xm177e2 GAU-5/A/A


I have one like that, too! Hey, that flat slipring looks familiar! Glad it's gone to a worthy project!
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 10:56:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By uxb:
I need to take new pics. I'm embarrassed to have mine in with the works of Stickman.




Who are you kidding?

My cobbled together welfare retro carbine pales next to yours.....



Both of you should be commended for your outstanding photography skills.

Sitck, I agree that your CAR is really nothing special on paper, but your presentation makes it one of my consistent favorites on this site.

UXB, same thing goes for you with the 607 and XM clones.

Good job guys, keep them coming.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:19:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By uxb:
Quote from eklilwhoa

here is my xm177e2 GAU-5/A/A


I have one like that, too! Hey, that flat slipring looks familiar! Glad it's gone to a worthy project!




thanks!


its been kinda hard finding the right parts and i keep having a hard time settling for less.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:28:56 AM EDT
















Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:34:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:
I need to retake this pic.....

www.airforcesecuritypolice.com/invisionboard/uploads/post-3-1121396041.jpg



Nice pic.

Stick is your shorty an 11.5 with the 5.5 FS or is it a 16" barrel with a slipover?
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:36:41 AM EDT
As a whole, we really need to shoot some new pictures huh?
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:40:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ekie:
As a whole, we really need to shoot some new pictures huh?



I just ordered a whole bunch of retro Viet Nam surplus and I'll have a new pic for mine soon...
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:47:48 AM EDT
Happened upon this all original (well almost, someone swapped out its A1 FH for the one seen… the correct A1 FH has sense been installed, but I haven’t taken any new (better) pictures yet) 1977 vintage Colt SP1 at my local FFL shop:















Planning on leaving it in its current condition as the "worn look" fits it nicely I think.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:50:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dog1:

Originally Posted By Ekie:
As a whole, we really need to shoot some new pictures huh?



I just ordered a whole bunch of retro Viet Nam surplus and I'll have a new pic for mine soon...



tease
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 11:59:27 AM EDT
Heres my contribution:



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 12:16:49 PM EDT
Here's one of mine before and after wood. Same rifle, different furniture.



Link Posted: 11/22/2005 12:19:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Here's one of mine before and after wood. Same rifle, different furniture.

www.hunt101.com/img/306781.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/333626.jpg


That looks pretty cool. Where'd you get the wood?

I would post pics of my SP1 clone (soon to be actual SP1 ) but Photobucket isn't letting me post anymore pics for the rest of the month

Very nice, everyone!
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 12:25:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Here's one of mine before and after wood. Same rifle, different furniture.

www.hunt101.com/img/306781.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/333626.jpg


.

thats nice lookin!
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 1:27:15 PM EDT
Ekie rules retro.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 1:29:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ekie rules retro.



Oh yea..+1 on that..
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 4:19:04 PM EDT
1966 Vintage








Link Posted: 11/22/2005 4:31:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:


Stick is your shorty an 11.5 with the 5.5 FS or is it a 16" barrel with a slipover?




They are 11.5 w/ 5.5" FS. I don't have any of the slip overs.
Link Posted: 11/22/2005 8:03:34 PM EDT
Everyone who has posted a pic or has an interested in this thread is a RETRO-SEXUAL



And I had better be given credit for the creation of the work "Retro-Sexual" in the 2007 edition of the Webster's New Dictionary of the English Language

Nice pics, even if they are retro



Link Posted: 11/23/2005 10:07:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By USMC03:
Everyone who has posted a pic or has an interested in this thread is a RETRO-SEXUAL



And I had better be given credit for the creation of the work "Retro-Sexual" in the 2007 edition of the Webster's New Dictionary of the English Language

Nice pics, even if they are retro








Hmm...

So now that you've confessed your hangups with Retro Rifles, can we call you a retro-phobe?
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 11:23:41 AM EDT
Retro carbine?

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 3:13:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lancelot:

can we call you a retro-phobe?



Yes you may


Beautiful blasters gents!!!

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 7:18:53 PM EDT
Look at pics a few posts above........

The walnut furniture came from www.ironwooddesigns.com
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 7:32:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Look at pics a few posts above........

The walnut furniture came from www.ironwooddesigns.com



dont see the AR15 sets on his website ?
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 7:51:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ekie rules retro.



Ha, think I just post a bunch of pictures.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 9:48:27 PM EDT
My retro clone ....

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 11:14:00 PM EDT
Old school baby!
PWA reciever with all Colt SP1 parts.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/HK33K/PWA.jpg
SGW RR with all early Colt parts.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/HK33K/SGWM16x.jpg
Pat
0-1-25
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 2:32:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 3:58:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dennysguns:
globaltactical.com/_img.upload/M607%20AND%20M79%20003.jpg

globaltactical.com/_img.upload/denny%20ar15%20left.jpg


Do you know that we all hate you very much?

This thread is making me itch for an XM177E2 clone and for an SP1 lower. >.<

Oh and LOL!!! at the retro-sexual thing. Good one, USMC03.
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