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Posted: 11/18/2003 2:19:39 AM EDT
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Well the photo server is down but there is a pic on this thread.
[url=http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=66&t=174575]Rifle shoots high[/url] I can also mail you the pic if necessary. The [url=http://ar15.com/content/books/FM23-9.pdf] M16A2 marksmanship manual[/url] is required reading with this platform. Found [url=http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-22.9/c04.htm]it[/url], gotta luv Google. [img]http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-22.9/image1626.jpg[/img] [added link to pic] |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 5:18:37 AM EDT
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Center mass or 6 o'clock hold? Its your choice.
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Posted: 11/18/2003 6:04:43 AM EDT
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The illustration is essentially correct, but replace the human figure with the black center ring of a paper target...when your sights are "squared up"...and you visually "touch ' the top of the front sight pin on the BOTTOM of the bullseye...then, all your shots should center in the black...this is done so, your target isn't obscured by the front sight pin itself at longer ranges...another way: at 100 meters, touch the bottom of the pop can with the front sight,,,gently squeeze the trigger and it flies away! easy as pie...
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Posted: 11/18/2003 7:16:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: The illustration is essentially correct, but replace the human figure with the black center ring of a paper target...when your sights are "squared up"...and you visually "touch ' the top of the front sight pin on the BOTTOM of the bullseye That is assuming you are using the 6 o'clock hold. If you use the center-of-mass hold (which is what the military teaches - and that image shows) then the top of the front sight would bisect the circle. |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 9:53:48 AM EDT
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thanks for the help guys, this is will give me somthing to think about the next chance I have to get out to the range.
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Posted: 11/18/2003 11:18:28 PM EDT
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6-o'clock holds are for known-distance COMPETITION only, and have NO PLACE on a field rifle. Bad guys don't run around with 8" circles painted on them. What's good for competition is often WRONG for combat.
-Troy |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 11:26:49 PM EDT
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I disagree.....a center mass "hold" should always be used. If you have a correct BZO, then you should be able to aim and hit center mass with the correct elevation settings employed.
Call your shots...... JH94 |
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Posted: 11/18/2003 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: I disagree.....a center mass "hold" should always be used. Err, which is it? [:D] I'm pretty sure we're agreeing here... -Troy |
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Posted: 11/19/2003 5:06:50 AM EDT
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nevermind me....jarhead is confused today, and will be confused most of the day tomorrow as well.
jh94 |
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Posted: 11/19/2003 5:45:27 AM EDT
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In BASIC I was taught center of mass.
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Posted: 11/19/2003 8:55:52 AM EDT
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ok ok, now I am a bit confused. Specifically what is the difference between a 6 o'clock hold and a center mass hold. Thanks again for all the replys.
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Posted: 11/19/2003 9:15:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: ok ok, now I am a bit confused. Specifically what is the difference between a 6 o'clock hold and a center mass hold. Thanks again for all the replys. Check this out ->[url]http://www.bobtuley.com/sight_picture.htm[/url] [:D] |
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Posted: 11/19/2003 11:48:45 AM EDT
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I disagree with Troy AND Jarhead:
A center of mass hold is correct! [NI] |
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Posted: 11/19/2003 12:28:57 PM EDT
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AWWWWWW I see the light. Thank you thank you, I am VERY visual person and that was exactly what I needed to see. A big help, Thanks.
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