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Posted: 11/9/2003 10:08:57 PM EDT
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I'm curious to see what we are all using for stocks... I'm 5'10" and the A2 stock does sometimes feel like its getting in the way of proper nose to charging handle form...

i've considered getting an entry stock for my next carbine... most GI's with m4's seem to use the smallest length settings for standing ... and lengthen it out for the prone position...

if i got a fixed entry styled stock... would it be extremely uncomfortable to be in the prone... should i get a a1 to have best of both worlds...

what are you currently using for your setups? entry weapon / prone long range shooting...
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:15:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/9/2003 10:20:51 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
A1 on my 20" Vltor on my M4. Id get a Sully Stock if I was building a post ban. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=24926&iGalleryUnq=235&iImageUnq=11432[/img]
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:17:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: Id get a Sully Stock if I was building a post ban.
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You're doin it to me again Lump. Whats a Sully stock?
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:23:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/9/2003 10:24:10 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
Check out Pat Rogers article on stocks in the new SWAT. Its got a length of pull equivalent to a CAR stock open to the first notch: [img]http://www.defensive-edge.net/ar15sullystocklarge.jpg[/img] [url]www.defensive-edge.net[/url]
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:29:11 PM EDT
I have had a VLTOR and Magpul stock on my rifle and prefer the Magpul. It is more solid and has more adjustment settings than the VLTOR. If you have a postban you can have the stock fixed at a preset length (I prefer position 4) and have it converted back after the ban.
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:29:38 PM EDT
I don't know... $119.95 + shipping doesn't look to apealing... but does have a good concept... lumpy... do you think the entry stock would be hand to deal with in the prone?
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:38:52 PM EDT
They're a tad short for me. A lot of people add one of several different spacers to them. I use my Vltor at the 1st notch in any firing position.
Link Posted: 11/9/2003 10:42:46 PM EDT
I think I'm gonna pick up a Sully stock. Thanks a lot Lumpy...more money out the door. My wallet quivers everytime you post. [;)]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:38:19 AM EDT
I like the Standard A-2 Stock, Pistol Grip and Handguard, I find that a lot of the After market expensive stuff on the Market is simply Gaudy. I like a AR to Look like a AR and Feel like a AR.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:32:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DevL: I have had a VLTOR and Magpul stock on my rifle and prefer the Magpul. It is more solid and has more adjustment settings than the VLTOR. [i]If you have a postban you can have the stock fixed at a preset length (I prefer position 4) and have it converted back after the ban.[/i]
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Are you referring to the Magpul stock being fixed at a preset length? I'd love to have Magpuls on my postbans, even if they were fixed length. Chris
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 4:11:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 4:18:05 AM EDT
jar3ds, I had an entry stock w/ a 1" spacer. It was comfortable while standing, but it was way too short to be comfortable in the prone position. Now I'm using an A1 stock and it is much more comfortable in all positions. I'm 5'8". Scott
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 4:59:47 AM EDT
Are you referring to the Magpul stock being fixed at a preset length?
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Yes, you can tell Magpul what position you want the stock fixed at and they will give you a postban compliant stock at that position that you can later have them change back to a telestock when the ban goes away.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 5:18:54 AM EDT
I've had good luck with an Ace shorty on my M4 carbine. When the ban sunsets I'm looking forward to installing a Magpul. [img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ace_small.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 5:40:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
Are you referring to the Magpul stock being fixed at a preset length?
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Yes, you can tell Magpul what position you want the stock fixed at and they will give you a postban compliant stock at that position that you can later have them change back to a telestock when the ban goes away.
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Thanks! .... Chris
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 5:44:59 AM EDT
Ace ARFX's on mine, A1-length, purchased before Vltor's and Magpul's were around: [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pca64a97d1d111fe6ef96f8b690497b27/fc404f62.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd3b6925db97127b9bbf42ff6648ddd85/fc402668.jpg[/img] A well-made, solid postban stock. Chris
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 6:00:03 AM EDT
I had a stubby stock on my rifle when I took a carbine course and my groups were all over the place when shooting prone.I'm 5'10" and it worked fine for standing but wasn't worth a shit laying on the ground.I switched to a Cavarms c1 stock and couldn't be happier.I had a Vltor on my preban and liked that the best.The Sully stock looks like a happy medium for postbans but it has no storage compartment in it.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 6:04:14 AM EDT
[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=70046&c=548&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/070046.jpg[/img][/url] Its such a hard thing to really say, my least favorite is definately the A2, I almost regret buying the Superlight because the 20" is just too damn long and heavy to havw to carry around now! I really like the ace stocks, but haven't had a chance to fondle the shorty, and I definately want a CAR style stock rifle. SO you know what that means, at least 2 more rifles to go, plus my varminter, unless the ace goes on it. BUT FIRST! a job.... :(
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 6:57:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mrcr0603: Ace ARFX's on mine, A1-length, purchased before Vltor's and Magpul's were around: [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pca64a97d1d111fe6ef96f8b690497b27/fc404f62.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd3b6925db97127b9bbf42ff6648ddd85/fc402668.jpg[/url] A well-made, solid postban stock. Chris
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Those look to me like postbans...what is on the end of the barrels? They look like flash suppressors; are they?
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 7:43:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2003 7:44:41 AM EDT by CJan_NH]
Originally Posted By Pepsimayn: [url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=70046&c=548&z=1"][url]http://www.hunt101.com/img/070046.jpg[/url][/url] Its such a hard thing to really say, my least favorite is definately the A2, I almost regret buying the Superlight because the 20" is just too damn long and heavy to havw to carry around now! I really like the ace stocks, but haven't had a chance to fondle the shorty, and I definately want a CAR style stock rifle. SO you know what that means, at least 2 more rifles to go, plus my varminter, unless the ace goes on it. BUT FIRST! a job.... :(
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Pepsimayn, I fixed your pic for you. Nice looking rig you've got there [:)] [img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/070046_copy.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 8:02:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jar3ds: I don't know... $119.95 + shipping doesn't look to apealing... but does have a good concept... lumpy... do you think the entry stock would be hand to deal with in the prone?
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Entry Stock with a 1" spacer (KAC, DPMS, or a buttplate spacer) will give you roughly the same length as the Sully stock. I'm 5'8" and don't have a problem with the 1" longer entry stock in standard prone (though I do shoot with optics). When shooting SBR prone with the short stock I shot my best groups ever (its my new favorite shooting position).
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 9:37:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ar15zams:
Originally Posted By mrcr0603: Ace ARFX's on mine, A1-length, purchased before Vltor's and Magpul's were around: [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pca64a97d1d111fe6ef96f8b690497b27/fc404f62.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd3b6925db97127b9bbf42ff6648ddd85/fc402668.jpg[/url] A well-made, solid postban stock. Chris
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Those look to me like postbans...what is on the end of the barrels? They look like flash suppressors; are they?
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Yes, they're postbans, and no, those aren't flash suppressors on the ends of the barrels. Chris
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 9:43:11 AM EDT
ACE for me. [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p6b36b80306374167922aa84d9cd3f668/fc4790e3.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 9:57:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: I use my Vltor at the 1st notch in any firing position.
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[img]http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf95/ms18/guild.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 10:17:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mrcr0603: Ace ARFX's on mine, A1-length, purchased before Vltor's and Magpul's were around: [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pca64a97d1d111fe6ef96f8b690497b27/fc404f62.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd3b6925db97127b9bbf42ff6648ddd85/fc402668.jpg[/url] A well-made, solid postban stock. Chris
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For my simple a**, I still like the ACE ARFX best.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 10:30:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: I use my Vltor at the 1st notch in any firing position.
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[url]http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf95/ms18/guild.jpg[/url]
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That is killing me! LOL!
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 10:40:07 AM EDT
Lumpy196 already pretty much summed up what I was going to say. When I saw that Sully in SWAT, I immediately thought it was a sound concept. But it doesn't get any cheaper than used/reconditioned A1 stocks. At present I have A1 on my weapons.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 11:57:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CJan_NH: Pepsimayn, I fixed your pic for you. Nice looking rig you've got there [:)] [url]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/070046_copy.JPG[/url]
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Why thank you, I didn't realize it was so dark, and she doesn't shoot too badly considering, most of the few that left the group were becsause of my bad habits :)
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 12:36:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JUSTACOP:
Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: I use my Vltor at the 1st notch in any firing position.
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[url]http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf95/ms18/guild.jpg[/url]
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That is killing me! LOL!
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He's just jealous cuz he doesnt own a pre-ban to put a collapsable stock on.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 12:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2003 1:08:12 PM EDT by CJan_NH]
Originally Posted By Pepsimayn:
Originally Posted By CJan_NH: Pepsimayn, I fixed your pic for you. Nice looking rig you've got there [:)] [url]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/070046_copy.JPG[/url]
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Why thank you, I didn't realize it was so dark, and she doesn't shoot too badly considering, most of the few that left the group were becsause of my bad habits :)
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Ha!! I know exactly how that is. I used to think that I was a supreme badass when it came to precision target shooting, then one of my Marine Corps buddies took one of my HBARs and showed me how it's done. The arrogant bastard even autographed it for me [:D] [img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/target.JPG[/img] Guess I'm not in the same league as a Force Recon sniper [:(] BTW, he did this at 50 meters, with irons.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:16:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Originally Posted By JUSTACOP:
Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: I use my Vltor at the 1st notch in any firing position.
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[url]http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf95/ms18/guild.jpg[/url]
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That is killing me! LOL!
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He's just jealous cuz he doesnt own a pre-ban to put a collapsable stock on.
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Actually, I have little use for a collapsable stock, pre or post ban. Maybe one day I'll have one, for my kids to learn on..............
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:48:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2003 3:26:46 PM EDT by Hawkeye]
Or maybe one day you'll have some serious body armor [:P] ---oops! hit the edit button instead of the quote! [shock] {Hawkeye}---
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:28:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: Or maybe one day you'll have some serious body armor [:P] ---oops! hit the edit button instead of the quote! [shock] {Hawkeye}---
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I do. [8D]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 4:06:14 PM EDT
I'm quite impressed w/ my ACE M4 SOCOM stock. Fits me perfect. 10.25" Retracted, 12.5" extended (from trigger). Also available are optional 1/2" & 1" butt-pads. Very solid unit, the "breaching doors" claim is cheesy though. [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p48bd6f19218d174ead16e485f24b8d3d/fab46ef4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p50346002501ee4f530755b2f13322952/fafb10ce.jpg[/img]
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