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Posted: 8/2/2003 7:32:55 PM EDT
Anyone own a RRA 24 inch bull barrled varmit AR? What kind of accuarcy do you get at 100 -600yds? what kind of ammo have you tried in it?What kind of amm does it like ?
Link Posted: 8/2/2003 7:48:56 PM EDT
FWIW (not much) I've got one. I've not taken it out on paper past 60 yards (yeah yeah, like buying a Porsche and keeping it under 35mph). At 60 yards it will put mixed surplus into one hole groups. I've not found any ammo that won't feed or that's shown poor precision at 60 yards. But 60 yards won't tell you anything about how it will react at 600. Jonathan
Link Posted: 8/2/2003 8:29:56 PM EDT
dsrtegle50 Are you pretty happy with the fit and finnish? Is it tight no raddles? did you get the standard hand guard grip or the hoge?I hear the aluminum one get's hot is this true?
Link Posted: 8/2/2003 8:59:21 PM EDT
I got one a couple of weeks ago and have taken it out a couple of times to breakin the barrel and tune some loads. I'm finding that my RRA likes a 69gr HPBT match Sierra bullet, Winchester brass and primers with VihtaVuori N140 powder. When I do my part it will shoot 1/4" or less groups at a 100 yds. Needless to say I am very happy with the way its performing.
Link Posted: 8/2/2003 10:17:24 PM EDT
I got my RRA heavy upper about two weeks ago. I was using crappy ammo and still got 1" groups using 55gr Eagle ammo with a 3.5x10 Tasco Titan scope and a stock trigger. I was shooting 45 grain, but it definitely didn't like that (2.5 inch groups) I plan on using heavier grain ammo and installing the RRA match trigger and things should be much better. I'm taking it back out tomorrow. I have a very favorable opinion of the fit & finish. No rifle failures other than a bad mag. [url]http://www.ofoto.com/PhotoView.jsp?collid=90744949703&photoid=52498096903&page=1&UV=772835449304_89820558903&refreshkey=1059890963564[/url] The ACE stock is coming off and a weighted A2 stock I just got is going on. I'm also getting more magnification, although I like this scope. I plan on shooting this at longer ranges a little later. Right now it's just 100 yds.
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 8:44:19 AM EDT
Nice pic OMAR. sailor40 what do you think about black hills ammo? I don't have a reloader yet and was thinking that stuff looks good for box ammo? I believe they make a 69gr HPBT match Sierra bullet I don't know what powder load,brass or primer they use .
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 10:52:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 2-gun: dsrtegle50 Are you pretty happy with the fit and finnish? Is it tight no raddles? did you get the standard hand guard grip or the hoge?I hear the aluminum one get's hot is this true?
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Fit and finish is GREAT. Its nice and tight, no rattles what-so-ever. It has the aluminum handguard, and after a hundred rounds or so (1 round every second or two), it does get quite hot. It stays hot for a good while too. The Hogue grip and the 2-stage trigger make this rifle a joy to shoot. The only things missing are glass and a bipod. Jonathan
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 1:56:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2003 2:03:07 PM EDT by Danno_man]
i have one in 1:12". it prefers either the Win 45gr JHP Varmint pack and the Black Hills 52gr Match HP. best 3 shot group was a .25" with the BH. with either ammo i'll get 10rd groups under 1" @ 100yrds now. this is a post from when i first outing with my RRA: i love this rifle!!! no break-in performed except for cleaning after sighting in (about 25rds) it was a windy day, and i didn't have a sandbag to rest the butt-stock on, shooting from a bi-pod and i'm still fairly new to rifle shooting (got my 10FP back in April). here are the results of my shooting at 100yrds (3 shot). the barrel is a 1:12 twist. the * indicates that it was definately my error. (also had a friend with me that was being impatient, so was kinda hurried) Black Hills 52gr Match Hollow Point (blue box) .65" .88" .59" 1.01" MCC 55gr FMJ M5 *1.5" 1.1" .83" 1.18" Win 55gr FMJ USA223R1 *2.57" .53" *1.74" PMC 55gr FMJ-BT *1.45 .91" 1.08" Win 45gr JHP USA2232 .52" 1.05" 1.13" .82" American Eagle 55gr FMJ-BT *1.34" 1.10" .92"
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 7:42:21 PM EDT
Danno_man nice post good groups for your conditions.I see alot of post boasting 50 rds all 1/8 groups with like wolf ammo at 100 yds in 90mph wind .good to see some honest post.Thanks
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 7:54:36 PM EDT
I would believe Danno_man when he talks about the size of his groups. I was shooting next to him when he was trying out the various brands of ammo. My RRA is a 20" Varmint with a 1:8 twist barrel, so obviously it likes the heavier stuff. I was shooting with Barnaul 62 gr (yeah yeah, no comments from the peanut gallery) and was getting about 1.75-2 inch 5-shot groups at 100 yards - which, realistically, is probably about as good as I can shoot.
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 8:03:17 PM EDT
I was'nt being a a smart arse .I beleive him 100%.I was just saying I see a lot of colorful post.But not here at some other boards .
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 8:13:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2-gun: I was'nt being a a smart arse .I beleive him 100%.I was just saying I see a lot of colorful post.But not here at some other boards .
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2gun, I apologize if I was came across that way - I merely wanted to backup Danno's claims. I think you'll definitely be pleased with RRA's varmint.
Link Posted: 8/3/2003 10:12:36 PM EDT
Although I havn'nt used Blackhills ammo, I've heard good things about it. You might want to go to the ammo topic section to see if you can find someone with personal experience with that particular type of Blackhills ammo.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 4:17:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2003 2:23:36 PM EDT by Danno_man]
i tried Win 62gr FMJ and it was at about 1.75" for a 9rd group and 2.25" for the 10rds including the 1 flyer. BTW, i'm using a 6-24X42 Sightron SII.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 5:26:50 AM EDT
I have the Wilson Heavy match barrel from RRA that I installed on a FN flat top upper. I has the 8" twist. It prefers the Sierra 69 gr. in front of Varget. I am beginning to like the 77 gr. Noslers using the same powder.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 7:18:34 AM EDT
Grate post guys .I am going to go with a RRA NM lower and a RRA 24 inch bull barreled upper in the standard 1x8 twist as shooting out to 600 yds I'll need the heavyier bullets.I'm going to go with the hoge FF handguard upgrade as the Ar15 i have shot all got really hot even just sitting in the sun. I'll have to wait on a bypod as this will brake my bank(and my neck if my wife finds out!)I'll go with a box of 55,69,77 gr black hills ammo to start with .I realy like the Noslier bullistic tip 308 ammo so I'll try that and some Noslier 77gr and serraria MBHP if I can get it .Now I just need to sell an old stevens sxs and all will be right with the world. Agian Thanks guys.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 2:27:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2003 2:45:11 PM EDT by Danno_man]
here's a pic of mine. it's got the Hogue handguard as well. [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/054275.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 7:48:00 AM EDT
Nice pic Danno_man .Steve at adco is at camp Perry till 8-12-03 so I 'll have to wait (:() .Oh well I gess I can look at all the pics of what it will look like(:)) thanks ! WHat kinda scope is that?
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 1:47:40 PM EDT
i'm using a 6-24X42 Sightron SII.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:52:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2003 2:55:37 PM EDT by stinkeypete]
I've got the 1:8 twist 24" BBL with RRA match lower. Here are some notes: 1) My group sizes are tightening up after the first 60 rounds or so. 2) The barrel does not seem to much like Winchester Q3131a. It's a bit over 1" at 100 yards. 3) The barrel loves any load of Varget, Remington 7 1/2 primers, and 52 grain Sierra Match Kings. Especially the warmer third of the spectrum. In my load testing, all 20 shots of the upper third of the published loads FIT UNDER A QUARTER, no edge showing. 100 yards. That's about as good as I can hold. 4) I am having very good luck with the B SQUARE scope mount. 5) I am having very good luck with the Swift 6-12 adjustable parallax scope sold by EA Brown. This is an inexpensive scope that I actually like better than my Burris! Very bright, good eye relief, tough. Cheap. What's not to like? OK, so maybe it has backlash- I don't know about that- I set and forget. Reloading is easy! Fun! Really shrinks the groups, and it's cheap. If you would make a rifle, you should make your ammo. It's simple, cheap, fun, effective. People here will help. As for me, I'm going out to make more "once fired brass" tomorrow! Pete
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