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Posted: 7/22/2003 7:09:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 8:33:19 PM EDT by mikepenn33]
What would you carry?
What caliber?
What model 1911?
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:17:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 11:40:34 PM EDT by NoCompromise]
HK of course... P7M13 or USP tactical or USP9. depends on my mood.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:23:57 PM EDT
What you carry I think is a lot of personal prefrence. I know myself I would and for ISPC and 3 gun I carry a Glock 35 Tactical. I found it's a great gun. After a hard 3 days 3 gun match it still keeps on firing. I also love that they put on the extended slide release, and mag release. It's all in the Tupperware guns. Kelly Jenkins Infantry Arms www.infantryarms.com
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:24:31 PM EDT
1911 on the strong side 92FS on the weak
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:29:48 PM EDT
1911. Is there any other choice?
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:34:05 PM EDT
I love my Para-Ordnance and the Sig 220 is a fantastic pistol, but I would stake my life on the plastic gun*. Glocks are simple and rugged, and my 23 has gone boom every time I've pulled the trigger. *This is of course assuming a large supply of factory ammo to avoid the not-so-fabled KB. [;)]
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:43:44 PM EDT
I had to chime in for the SIG I love my 226, plus, it just looks good next to an AR!
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:43:57 PM EDT
Summer Glock 36 Winter Wilson 1911 unless I feel like carrying my P7 if Del Fatti ever finishes my P7 rig.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:44:48 PM EDT
A Beretta M92F backs up my Colt AR15A2 Gov't Model.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:49:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mikepenn33: What [do] you carry?
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There can be only one (choice): USP Tac .45
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:53:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 7:55:48 PM EDT by MaverickMkii]
Glock 19/34 but Sig P226 or HK USP will also do
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 7:58:04 PM EDT
G L O C K ! ! ! Glock 35
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:01:22 PM EDT
USP45 for serious use, and Beretta 92fs for playing around.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:16:46 PM EDT
USP45
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:19:54 PM EDT
Get the Olympic Arms 9mm kit set up for Glock magazines then carry a glock and get some Glock factory 33rnd 9mm mags.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:22:33 PM EDT
My kimber tactical or my glock 21. But it's got to be a .45
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:23:13 PM EDT
1911, with SIG being runner up.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:23:34 PM EDT
SIG P220 .45
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:32:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: 1911, with SIG being runner up.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:35:33 PM EDT
Springfield Mil Spec M1911. Rock Island is good also.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:38:21 PM EDT
I love my 1911, but the Beretta is the soul mate of the AR. They both: - are current issue weapons - use aluminum frames/receivers - use plastic stocks/furniture - replaced weapons that used steel and wood - are high capacity/small caliber weapons that replaced low capacity/large caliber weapons. - have chrome lined barrels - had a great deal of controversy surrounding their adoption - have had reliability issues that were traced to incorrect ammo - have, as a result of controversy and reliability issues, been surrounded by a cloud of FUD for years.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:39:16 PM EDT
Delta uses modified 1911's. Anyone know what make?
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:44:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mikepenn33: Delta uses modified 1911's. Anyone know what make?
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Well, the last time I was out shooting with them....
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:46:30 PM EDT
HK USP in .45 of course! Second choice would be a Springfield TRP simply because I don't have that kinda $ to spend on a pistol!
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:47:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 8:48:46 PM EDT by mikepenn33]
funny! Lumpy
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 8:58:55 PM EDT
hands down.. a 1911 in 45acp. can't beat a gun that's survived all of America's "modern" wars and keeps on ticking
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 9:00:18 PM EDT
David Hindeline-It is a cool idea to have the same ammo for your pistol and carbine, even cooler to have the same magazines. I was in love with this idea for a long time.I got over it. Pistol calibers out of a rifle leave a little to be desired. Read:"Lame." The truth, however, is to be good with a rifle(.223,.308), and have a back-up sidearm that you are "comfortable with".
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 9:01:11 PM EDT
I would have to go with a 1911. I have loved the few Kimbers I have shot. What about the ruger pistols? I'm no expert pistol shooter, but I have had good experience our P95. The ruger pistols are rugged, simple, and strong. They also are about half the price of the beretta or the glocks. The only problem with them is they look to plain. They just arn't as flashy as the beretta and the glocks.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 9:01:39 PM EDT
USP 45
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 9:10:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By new-arguy: USP 45
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full-size,tactical ?
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 9:25:36 PM EDT
Just USP 45, not USP 45c or USP 45 Tactical, just plain ole USP 45. With XS 24/7 sites.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:06:32 PM EDT
M9 marked Berretta goes with the Colt. [img]http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/135m16m9.jpg[/img] Sometimes shooting the same round in both. -TF
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:11:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 10:28:28 PM EDT by strongmad]
HK USP Tac. Great gun. 1k rounds and exactly 0.0 malfunctions of any kind. Accurate as hell (more than me or my eyes). I am happy w/ it, but still, I could have bought a really good Kimber for less, and the 1911 rules. I do like the ability to work the slide w/ the saftey on, but it is like Jeff Cooper said, the double action pistol is a solution to a non-problem. Single action hammer fired pistols rule, especially when they have lots of parts and stuff, kind of like the AR, but I'm still keeping my HK BTW, not to start a flame war, but glocks suck in two ways (not totally): Their crazy wierd action system, I am telling you that a hair single action trigger (for the disciplined shooter) rules, and secondly for their weird grip angle! They are like the only friggig co no using the same basic angle as the 1911, and I'll never own one just b/c I don't want to relearn. Also, the sigs have weird controls. Also, 9mm sucks. Just b/c the AR works good w/ hicapicity/small bore, doesn't mean that pistols are good cause of it. AR's wound by velocity and fragmenting, pistols wound from single deep penetrating wound holes that bleed out. Conclusion, w/ pistols, bigger hole is better. And for that matter, sell you stupid 9mm upper and your Beretta and get a 45 upper. If you need more than 7 or 10 shots all at once you are dead anyway. If you want a LW pistol and double stack, get a USP 45 or a Wilson KZ, or mayby one of those Kimber polymers. The only real advantage I see to havin a 9mm is in case the SHTF and it is the only type of ammo you can get (like off of dead UN troopers [;D]).
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:23:43 PM EDT
Springfield Mil-Spec.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:27:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tberg: David Hindeline-It is a cool idea to have the same ammo for your pistol and carbine, even cooler to have the same magazines. I was in love with this idea for a long time.I got over it. Pistol calibers out of a rifle leave a little to be desired. Read:"Lame." The truth, however, is to be good with a rifle(.223,.308), and have a back-up sidearm that you are "comfortable with".
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308 would not be controllable and 223 would not have good terminal ballistics w/ at least a 11.5" barrel (frag to about 15 or 25 yards I think) It could be handy to carry a real light weight AR pistol w/ you, or at least the 11.5" upper incase something went wrong w/ the other (legality aside) or if you were doing entry or whatever.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:34:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By strongmad:
Originally Posted By tberg: David Hindeline-It is a cool idea to have the same ammo for your pistol and carbine, even cooler to have the same magazines. I was in love with this idea for a long time.I got over it. Pistol calibers out of a rifle leave a little to be desired. Read:"Lame." The truth, however, is to be good with a rifle(.223,.308), and have a back-up sidearm that you are "comfortable with".
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308 would not be controllable and 223 would not have good terminal ballistics w/ at least a 11.5" barrel (frag to about 15 or 25 yards I think) It could be handy to carry a real light weight AR pistol w/ you, or at least the 11.5" upper incase something went wrong w/ the other (legality aside) or if you were doing entry or whatever.
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For entry, a 10.5" barrel with a 1/7 twist firing 75 or 77 grain rounds would probably still outperform the 9mm SMG with only a slight increase in weight.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:20:21 AM EDT
SIG SAUER P226 9mm or Kimber Custom II 1911 .45. Would'nt feel under gunned with either.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 4:11:00 AM EDT
Para-Ord. P-1445 with two additional 14 rd mags on my belt.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 5:05:59 AM EDT
Depends. Springfield 1911 and an H&K USP 45 handle everything for me. Which one would depend on the situation/terrain, etc. My USP 45 could be used in ANY situation, and is my #1 go to SHTF sidearm. If I had to operate in the woods and swamps of FL, my USP gets the nod hands down. In a more Urban environment, the 1911 would go nicely as well. Overall though, I guess my USP 45 gets top billing.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 5:18:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2003 5:19:17 AM EDT by 800Mtrs]
HK USP .45 Tactical, What else is there? dont they just look pretty next to each other. [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p539be902abd4635f9f4fa40743bcf8ea/fb98729f.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 5:41:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2003 6:20:11 AM EDT by blikbok]
A second AR ;) No, seriously....If I was getting something to complement my AR it'd be a Sig 220 in 45 ACP. Also aluminum framed, similar color, and a small number of big, slow rounds. If I had an SP1, I'd want to match it with a plain, parkerized 1911.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 5:43:35 AM EDT
h&k usp45.but the 1911 is a close second for me.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 7:28:14 AM EDT
SIG! I prefer [b]any[/b] SIG, but as a general sidearm the 228 or 226 would do! I carry a 239 in the cold months due to its concealability. B9
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 7:48:28 AM EDT
I'm torn here. My two favorite handguns are a 1911 and an HK P7.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:05:59 AM EDT
In the old days, a Colt 1911 would do... Nowaday, and with ammo availability in battle, a Walther P99.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:21:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: In the old days, a Colt 1911 would do...
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[b]And STILL would do and very nicely.[/b] (I was privileged to read an email from a Special Forces type in the Afghan. He said every worn-out .45 still in the arsenal had found its' way to Afghanistan as about any .45 was preferable to that.......that 'other' pistol.)
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:50:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2003 8:54:04 AM EDT by Pawnboy]
[b]Glock 19 & 23c[/b] Keeps me & mine safe.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:03:23 AM EDT
1911, especially if I could pack as many magazines as Benicio Del Toro in "Way of the Gun" [;)]
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:09:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:10:25 AM EDT
1911.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:21:11 AM EDT
S&W 99/.40 or Glock 21/.45
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