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Posted: 7/1/2003 7:57:46 AM EDT
If you where to buy another rifle what would you get. I don't want to hear about the G36 because you can't get it.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:06:22 AM EDT
I vote AK (prefereably 5.56) b/c of value and fun factor. 5.56 AKs are much more accurate and therefore much more fun to shoot! The HK or the AUG would get my vote if money were not a factor. I am starting to cry just thinking about how much a good set of mags would run you for the AUG and HK.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:18:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:23:52 AM EDT
M14/M1A, it's the only American option up there! Actually I've been considering an AK style, but everytime I look at one close-up it cures my desire.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:46:24 AM EDT
AK's for sure! While they're not nearly as refined or accurate as the AR weapons system, they're rugged, inexpensive to buy and shoot, and hi caps are cheap and plentiful. $300 for a rifle / $25 for three 30 round mags / $85 for 1,000 rounds = $410 for a ready-to-rock kit. You're not going to be shooting tight groups at 300 yards, but for close in blasting the AK sytem is excellent.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:10:39 AM EDT
I can get the G36....... [;D] But I was always more fond of USGI firearms, so M14 it is
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:12:11 AM EDT
M1A Scout![:D]
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:18:58 AM EDT
Robinson Recon Carbine, and since that is not on the list I'd say an FAL.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 11:19:02 AM EDT
DSA FAL
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 11:23:23 AM EDT
AK-74
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 11:35:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By boricua9mm: I am starting to cry just thinking about how much a good set of mags would run you for the AUG and HK.
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H&K G3 mags are something like $3 for aluminum, $5 for steel. Guess somebody imported a boatload in the last 10 years. Nice HK91 clones are on the market for $800. AUG mags in still in orbit. Funny considering how many AUG rifles there are in country... since they're imported there's no end to the AUG drought in sight.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 12:00:28 PM EDT
AK, the yen to the AR15/M16 yang (or vice versa).
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 12:50:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dwkennedy:
Originally Posted By boricua9mm: I am starting to cry just thinking about how much a good set of mags would run you for the AUG and HK.
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H&K G3 mags are something like $3 for aluminum, $5 for steel. Guess somebody imported a boatload in the last 10 years. Nice HK91 clones are on the market for $800. AUG mags in still in orbit. Funny considering how many AUG rifles there are in country... since they're imported there's no end to the AUG drought in sight.
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Aha! You're right...I [b]have[/b] seen the G3 mags cheap as hell, but thge AUG mags I've seen are a diff. story...
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 1:10:21 PM EDT
My pick goes to the M14, but if I had no other weapons, I would choose a Very Hard Hitting bolt action.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 2:17:26 PM EDT
If the SHTF and I'm tasked to save western civilisation,count me in with my M1A.The mouse gun just doesn't have the punch of a 308.My 3 AR's are fun to shoot but I want something with more knockdown.Flame suit on,I can hear the incoming!!
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 2:25:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mikepenn33: If you where to buy another rifle what would you get. I don't want to hear about the G36 because you can't get it.
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What if you have them all except the AUG?
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 2:32:33 PM EDT
I want a SIG 551.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 2:46:59 PM EDT
I already have 2 FALs and 4 ARs, so I would probably say more of each, or ammo, or mags for each, or well the list goes on and on.......
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 2:52:12 PM EDT
M1A/M14 You just can't hit a man sized target at 1000 meters with an AK.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 3:01:38 PM EDT
AK74
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 3:45:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2003 4:47:02 AM EDT by Hawkeye]
Originally Posted By Forest: Robinson Recon Carbine, and since that is not on the list I'd say an FAL.
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Ditto for me, although I think I'd go with an SA M1A Scout over the FAL, but it would be CLOSE behind the M1A. M96 Recon M1A Scout/AR10 carbine FAL In that order. edited to add, the AR10 carbine is still drawing me hard. I plan to have 1 .308 and it will be either the M1A Scout or the AR10 Car.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 3:58:45 PM EDT
G-36 much better than any AR-15
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 4:01:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NAM: M1A/M14 You just can't hit a man sized target at 1000 meters with an AK.
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Muchless see a person at 1000 GG
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 4:23:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:02:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gun Guru:
Originally Posted By NAM: M1A/M14 You just can't hit a man sized target at 1000 meters with an AK.
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Muchless see a person at 1000 GG
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Ahh.... and that is why they invented mildot scopes with variable power! Zoom in, estimate size via mil-dot, estimate drop via mil-dot, estimate lead by mil-dot. Then gently squeeze...... ...nothing but chuncks!
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:15:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SMGLee: I want a SIG 551.
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Ditto. Or a 552. Since my pockets won't be able to scratch that itch for a few years....DSA STG-58 FAL it is.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:21:36 PM EDT
FN FAL .308
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:27:28 PM EDT
Of the choices available it is a toss-up between the FAL and the M1A, but the nod goes eventually to the M1A, better sights, better trigger, more accurate, almost as reliable. All we have to do is ignore the cost of the magazines for the moment. The FAL has better ergonomics, however, but the M1A is not that bad anyway (much better than, say, an AK).
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:14:02 PM EDT
It was a toss up between the FAL and the SteyrAUG.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 12:41:13 PM EDT
I pick my Styer Aug A1. It is one great gun. Then the 552. (if I had the money)
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 2:12:13 PM EDT
If the shtf would ever go down. Listen from my own personal experience with different caliber weapon systems during the persian gulf war. I saw two iraq's take 6 hits from 5.56 rds and keep trucking.Finally when they experied 500 yds later down the road. Only 1 rd penetrated plain old clothing and desert sarong. 5.56 mm no way other than head shot everytime.But must likely someone will be wearing kevlar anyway. Now the good old 7.62. One shot , one kill,two kills if persons close enough. My choice hands down. 50 bmg - He was there a minute ago
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 2:13:04 PM EDT
If the shtf would ever go down. Listen from my own personal experience with different caliber weapon systems during the persian gulf war. I saw two iraq's take 6 hits from 5.56 rds and keep trucking.Finally when they experied 500 yds later down the road. Only 1 rd penetrated plain old clothing and desert sarong. 5.56 mm no way other than head shot everytime.But must likely someone will be wearing kevlar anyway. Now the good old 7.62. One shot , one kill,two kills if persons close enough. My choice hands down. 50 bmg - He was there a minute ago
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 2:24:40 PM EDT
I have been urning for an HK of any type for some time now. I think that an HK 33 would fit quite nicly into my collection.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:37:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr: If the shtf would ever go down. Listen from my own personal experience with different caliber weapon systems during the persian gulf war. I saw two iraq's take 6 hits from 5.56 rds and keep trucking.Finally when they experied 500 yds later down the road. Only 1 rd penetrated plain old clothing and desert sarong. 5.56 mm no way other than head shot everytime.But must likely someone will be wearing kevlar anyway. Now the good old 7.62. One shot , one kill,two kills if persons close enough. My choice hands down. 50 bmg - He was there a minute ago
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I must be missing something... Two Iraqies, 6 shots and only ONE ROUND penetrated clothing and BOTH go down 500 yds later? Maybe the one guy was the only one hit by one bullet and the other guy just fell from exhaustion? M1A is on the short list for me.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:36:20 PM EDT
I’ll take the M14 in Select-Fire if possible. Having shot the Pure Semi M1A1 and the FAL, I’ll take the M14 almost any day. I like my M16. And IF I have to have another choice, it would Have to be the M14. Having shot it that one time at the range, I was impressed with how accurate I shot it at 400 yards, never shooting the M14 style rifle before. And besides, the M14 is free of Shrikes at the moment.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 8:38:25 PM EDT
I love the M14 great lines,reliability and looks and even if mags were cheaper Id have to go with the FAL more have been made than the 14 and still being made,so there is a better support system for the rifle Id have one with the bolt sand cuts,inch pattern L1A1,plus ease of maintenence,opens up like an AR.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 9:16:24 PM EDT
Not good for long range and not on the list, but for SHTF in a CQB arena, I would have to go with the FN P90.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 9:20:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By _DR: Not good for long range and not on the list, but for SHTF in a CQB arena, I would have to go with the FN P90.
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I'm goign to have to put the FN P90 at the very bottom of the list. Range sucks. stopping power sucks. ammo availability sucks. Only thing it has going for it is that it was in the N64 goldeneye game. lol...
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 2:56:12 AM EDT
FAL
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 3:07:55 AM EDT
There wasn't a box for all of them so FAL.
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 3:55:57 AM EDT
I went with the FAL. Mag and parts price & availability were deciding factors.
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 6:19:43 AM EDT
FAL because i just got my first AR and cause i have an imbel parts kit under my bed right now!! i have to get it finished soon...
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 7:21:13 AM EDT
I vote for AK-47.
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 6:10:33 PM EDT
Only thing it has going for it is that it was in the N64 goldeneye game.
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HAHA! and indeed it kicked some @$$
Link Posted: 7/4/2003 6:23:08 AM EDT
M1A If they weren't $1100+ I'd have another one. There's something about iron, and walnut, and that 'classic' American look that nothing else can replace.
Link Posted: 7/4/2003 10:17:37 AM EDT
For cqb my vote goes to the steyr aug. Over all the FAL
Link Posted: 7/4/2003 11:47:30 AM EDT
Actually, my M1A is my first choice with the AR coming in a close second. I've had a HK91, a couple of different AK's, and a SKS. They were alright, but I've found myself gravitating back towards American-made firearms in the past couple of years. The only exception would be pistols. I'm a die-hard SIG-Sauer fan. I've tried virtually every other kind of pistol out there, but I haven't found any that I like better than my SIGs...
Link Posted: 7/4/2003 2:36:11 PM EDT
HK33, cause I have a heap of AKs (but never enough) and FALs, and roller locks are cool.
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