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Posted: 6/11/2003 6:18:02 AM EDT
I'm debating getting a bipod for my AR15. I notice that most people don't have them. Why should I or shouldn't I get one? Didn't want to spend a ton and I was thinking of getting this one . . .
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:23:14 AM EDT
Depends on what type of setup you're going for. The Special Purpose Rifles currently in use have 20" stainless barrels, bipod, and scope. Nice setup. A carbine or M4 is a different story. After reading [url=http://www.amazon.com/dp/0873647041?tag=vglnk-c102-20] The Ultimate Sniper[/url], I sold my bipod. The author, Major John Plaster (Ret.), says that bipods should be a last resort, only to be used when other, more stable rests (sandbags, ledges, fallen trees, etc.) cannot be found. My advice: if you wanna build an SPR, go with a good light bipod like the Harris Ultralight. If you have a carbine or M4, go without.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:26:16 AM EDT
First: Decide if you'd ever have a need for one. Are you going to be shooting from the prone position or from a table and trying to shoot sub moa with your gun? Then I'd say heck yes. Are you shooting offhand or using your gun for plinking/home defense? Then I'd say the bipod would be more of a liability than an asset. Second: If you decide to get a bipod, get a good one. Harris bipods last forever, and aren't extremely heavy. That's my .02... -catch
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:42:54 AM EDT
Just attach a foward vertical grip. With 20rnd mags you can use the front grip as a monopod. I use it all the time on gophers with my m4gery. Not as stable at bi-pod but pretty damn close, plus the forward grip is also used as.....well, a forward grip. So its not just extra weight when not in use.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:47:56 AM EDT
Thanks everybody. I think I'm just going to stick with my vertical grip. Can't really see me using it that much really.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:00:56 AM EDT
If you have a varmiter config. then yeah. I;ve seen them on M4s and shortys. Honestly I think thats a waist of money. Some people like the look and thats fine. For my weapon, (20" bushie) I am just fine without it. If I can hit stuff without a bipod, then ANYONE can. I would only recommend a bipod on an AR15 if its well over 20 inches or a varmiter. Just my $.02 cents.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 8:08:17 AM EDT
whoa...anybody that takes bipod advice from plaster the disaster needs to go and look at some of his other stunts...like the stock he designed for Choate----it weighs around 10 pounds by itself. I like bipods, when I need to set my AK down, it holds it up. It also is nice to shoot with, as for the AR, I have a cheap plastic bipod that I put on it when I need steadiness or I am just giving it a rest. There are always situations where it works and there will be situations where it won't...would you rather spend time looking for a rest or bring your with you?
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 8:11:54 AM EDT
I use mine at the range all the time. I only use Harris ones on mine. [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/047933.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/040107.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 8:14:24 AM EDT
I disagree, prone shooting with a bipod is nice even on my m4ergy. also on OLN they had a sniper challenge shoot out and almost all of them in the close range rapid fire shooting had m4s with bipods with RAS. I got a harris ultra lite with a ARMS quick detach and a pod-loc systems (from paul at mstn) on my ARMS 50, awesome bipod setup.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 8:20:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Guntoting_Spartan: I disagree, prone shooting with a bipod is nice even on my m4ergy. also on OLN they had a sniper challenge shoot out and almost all of them in the close range rapid fire shooting had m4s with bipods with RAS. I got a harris ultra lite with a ARMS quick detach and a pod-loc systems (from paul at mstn) on my ARMS 50, awesome bipod setup.
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Can you point me to some web sights with the gear for the set up you described? If I get one I want it to be very light and easy to detach.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 9:19:37 AM EDT
I agree with the bi-pod guys. I have a Harris on every AR I have. If I don't need it, it takes less than 30 seconds to remove. You can shoot it steadier on the bench where I do most of my shooting. When you're not shooting, it holds it safely. And if you wanna shoot off-hand, just fold it up. For CQB it is not a liability because it folds foreward out of the way, and weighs very little. Every time I go to the range without it, I wish I had brought it because nothing else I put it on feels the right height.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 10:18:23 AM EDT
I use a cheap $20 rifle rest when I am at the range. Caldwell is the company that makes them. You can find them at MidwayUSA.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 10:24:58 AM EDT
Get a Harris LM with a No 5 adapter- the adapter simply clamps through a vent hole on the CAR handguards (it may take a little more effort on M4 guards) and allows you to quickly attach/detach the bipod. I use one for zeroing at 50 yards- no prone shooting on sandbags allowed at the local range! The best part about my Harris is that it neatly fits in one of the mag pouches on my range bag- if I don't want it, I just stow it and offhand shoot. Natchez Shooting sports has the best price on them as far as I know: www.Natchezss.com
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 12:09:13 PM EDT
They are nice if you are camped out over a field hunting or something like that.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 12:43:43 PM EDT
here ya go [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=25&t=151235[/url] fairly expensive 230 bucks
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