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Posted: 5/27/2003 8:45:08 AM EDT
I've been reading several posts about the benefits of chrome lined barrels. Just wondering if anybody knows for shure whether or not my MT6400C comes with one ?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 10:19:33 AM EDT
Yes: Specs for the M4: 16" M4 profile bbl. (chromed) 1/7 twist 5.56 NATO Chamber (chromed) Flattop with handle (A2 rear sight) Extended feed ramps Double heat shielded heavy duty oval handguards
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 10:32:27 AM EDT
Thanks for the info Henry. Were did find that at ? Colts website doesnt specify that (or I just didnt see it).
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:34:10 PM EDT
Is it a 16 inch barrel with brake or 14 1/2 with brake? GG
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:38:21 PM EDT
I'm interested in one and have a question. Can it be had without the Brake? They go at shows around here for $995 BTW. Thanks... MM419
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:45:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 1:52:16 PM EDT by M4arc]
It's a full 16.1" barrel. With the comp it comes to 17.1" or something like that. AFAIK you can only get it with the comp but it's only pinned on and you can easily punch the pins out. [url]http://www.colt.com/CMCI/MTM4.asp[/url]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:48:02 PM EDT
We've been over this to death lol. Colt says no, dealers say yes. Colt sucks, some dealers know what they are talking about. I think it is, but I wont get one cause of that ugly ass muzzle brake.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:48:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Minuteman419: I'm interested in one and have a question. Can it be had without the Brake? They go at shows around here for $995 BTW. Thanks... MM419
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I saw a lot at the show in Hampton on Saturday for about the same price. I even saw a couple, like mine, that were stamped "Colt Defense" above the safety selector.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:51:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZRH: We've been over this to death lol. Colt says no, dealers say yes. Colt sucks, some dealers know what they are talking about. I think it is, but I wont get one cause of that ugly ass muzzle brake.
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What? [>:/]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 2:05:42 PM EDT
Sry Im like a mosquito on crack sometimes. I meant I called Colt customer service once and they said it DID NOT have a chrome barrel. Then I was talking to some people here and they say it DOES have a chrome lined barrel. One thing NEVER call Colt customer service, they will treat you like the scum o' the earth. The last part was about the muzzle brake. IMHO it looks tacky.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 2:17:05 PM EDT
I'm with you now. I agree, Colt's customer service blows chunks. Actually, the 6400 is the only postban civilian model with a chrome-lined bore and chamber. The other "Match Targets" only have a chromed chamber. The comp is ugly but can easily be replaced.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:05:10 PM EDT
Now I'm really confused, I called Colt and they say no it does not have a chrome lined barrel or chamber and some dealers are saying yes. Wouldnt the manufacture know what they make ?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:22:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cdh027_ColtM4: Now I'm really confused, I called Colt and they say no it does not have a chrome lined barrel or chamber and some dealers are saying yes. Wouldnt the manufacture know what they make ?
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AFAIK all ARs have chromed lined chambers and have had them since Vietnam. And I can tell you that my 6400c has a chrome-lined bore. Personally, I wouldn't trust anything the Colt CS reps say...they burned me once before.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:28:00 PM EDT
Seems like deja vu with this question, but I also called Colt and spoke with a sales rep, who in fact confirmed what M4arc said that it is the "only" civilian AR that has the chrome bore and chamber. This was also confirmed by Specialized Arament Warehouse, a very large dealer for Colt. Why Colt doesn't just add that fact to their web site description of the MT6400C is beyond me.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:36:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Heavyarmor: Seems like deja vu with this question, but I also called Colt and spoke with a sales rep, who in fact confirmed what M4arc said that it is the "only" civilian AR that has the chrome bore and chamber. This was also confirmed by Specialized Arament Warehouse, a very large dealer for Colt. Why Colt doesn't just add that fact to their web site description of the MT6400C is beyond me.
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Probably because if they added it to their website their CS reps would be responsible for knowing it!
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 8:47:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cdh027_ColtM4: Thanks for the info Henry. Were did find that at ? Colts website doesnt specify that (or I just didnt see it).
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I got the info here! So I'm assuming it's true. I don't understand this "the muzzle brake is ugly" discussion - it's a friggin' weapon! Not like I'm going to take it out to dinner and then have my way with it - I won't take it out to dinner - I just have my way with it - it's called shooting the heck out of it![img]http://www.fototime.com/88E8F0334ED99C1/standard.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 8:57:18 PM EDT
Hey the muzzle brake IS ugly. Not ugly cool, ugly ugly. In my experiance one does not need a muzzle brake for the MINDNUMBING RECOIL of a semi-auto .223. On select fire I get it but otherwise Ill stick with flashiders or a unadorned muzzle. Mabey just mabey a .308 might need one but IMHO it doesnt. The only gun Ive ever shot the needs a muzzle brake is an Stg.57, 7.5x55 swiss kicks like a mule (actually its not smaller than .308 it shoots a .308 bullet, the swiss measure to the lands not the grooves).
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 4:36:25 AM EDT
I personally don't think it's all that bad. It kinda adds a beefy look to the end of the barrel. I know it's loud, but I like blowing peoples hair back if they stand too close on either side of me while I'm emptying 30 rounds.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 4:59:41 AM EDT
I don't understand this "the muzzle brake is ugly" discussion - it's a friggin' weapon! Not like I'm going to take it out to dinner and then have my way with it - I won't take it out to dinner - I just have my way with it - it's called shooting the heck out of it!
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What do you mean you don't take it to dinner? I wine mine, dine mine then...[naughty]
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 7:24:00 PM EDT
I'm cheap - no dinner for you - just put out!
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 9:22:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 88balanced: I'm cheap - no dinner for you - just put out!
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[LOL]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 5:11:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/31/2003 7:16:52 AM EDT by Va_Dinger]
Its certianly ugly, but even Mr.Busmaster "ZRH" will have to admit that it looks better than their look-a-like AK74 brake.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 8:20:42 AM EDT
Yup. I hate all forms of Muzzle brakes. Big, small, chinese, and hairy I hate em all.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:10:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/31/2003 10:15:45 AM EDT by M4arc]
ZRH - I'll agree with your earlier post that ARs do not need a muzzle brake because there is hardly any recoil. However we're not talking about muzzle brakes here, we're talking about compensators. Muzzle brakes help reduce recoil and comps help reduce muzzle climb. Comps do help, especially if you need a quick follow up shot. So, technically you are right but no postban AR that I know of (in 5.56) comes with an actual brake. While the Colt's comp, Bushmaster mini-y and AK are ugly they are also very effective and can easily be replaced for a more appealing one like a Kurt's or Cav comp.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:22:57 AM EDT
The people at Colt should install those military lookalike brakes from EGW .They work and look the way an Ar-15 should.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:41:12 AM EDT
Looks like a very nice weapon. Does it have a push out pivot pin in the front and what about the FCG pin diameter, large or small? TIA.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:51:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By oneshot1kill: Looks like a very nice weapon. Does it have a push out pivot pin in the front and what about the FCG pin diameter, large or small? TIA.
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Milspec pivot pin but large FCG pins.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 4:29:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4arc:
Originally Posted By oneshot1kill: Looks like a very nice weapon. Does it have a push out pivot pin in the front and what about the FCG pin diameter, large or small? TIA.
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Milspec pivot pin but large FCG pins.
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No shit! A front pivot pin, that's a positive step foward for Colt. I hope they do away with the large diameter FCG pins as well, not that it matters functionally, it's just because I like to be able to interchange parts with other AR's or M16's if the need arises. This is the first new Colt I liked in many a year.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 5:41:42 PM EDT
I called Colt and the guy said "yes" they were chrome-lined. Mine is at Wilson's right now getting that hideous Miculek comp off of it and their wannabe-flash-hider muzzle break on it. I figure if/when the ban sunsets I'll just drill out the end of that break till it's the same diameter as the rest of it (no tiny hole in the end). It will be a functional flash hider at that point, albeit a few more slits would make it better.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:40:01 PM EDT
Oneshot, I couldn't agree with you more. IMHO, it's the nicest rifle Colt has produced in many years. I wouldn't have bought a postban Colt if it wasn't for this model.
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