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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:19:32 PM EDT
http://65.127.111.83/viewtopic.php?topic=309&forum=2

discussion board, me showing off my new toy and suddenly becuz its a evil black right, another gun owner (guy named NOLF) calls me a whack job who is at any moment gonna start killing innocent people, i mean WTF, how did he get that from my two posts?!?

just a rant, sorry guys
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:34:35 PM EDT
Ah he's probably just mad cause he can't afford one.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:02:12 AM EDT
That guy is a walking, hunting, typing gob of dick snot. Need. I'm tempted to register and post [url=http://www.vzavenue.net/~eumenides/m16/9mmfun1.jpg]this[/url]. Yeah, I need to do some situps but I'm too busy BLASTING! Feel free on my behalf. I don't want to register there just to flame on Elmer Fudd the Socialist 'Hunter'.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:13:48 AM EDT
Guntoting_Spartan, why don't you try to engage this guy in some rational debate about the purpose & intent of the 2nd. Amendment??? If you keep it civil, and present facts, you just might change his mind (after all, his [i]is[/i] a gun owner). Hearts & minds, my friend...
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:18:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NYPatriot: Guntoting_Spartan, why don't you try to engage this guy in some rational debate about the purpose & intent of the 2nd. Amendment??? If you keep it civil, and present facts, you just might change his mind (after all, his [i]is[/i] a gun owner). Hearts & minds, my friend...
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That would certainly be the better alternative to baiting and flaming him! [BD]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:46:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:49:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TREETOP: Looks like your thread there is locked already..
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durn... I was coming in to light up my FPL.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:53:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 12:54:35 AM EDT by kingcleophus]
Hey Spartan, Damn, I was going to give him a copy of Troy's DrZOX special. Oh well....
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:15:42 AM EDT
Basically, the guy is a wimp. Mature adults put "right" ahead of popularity. Gun owners who flame owners of "ugly" guns simply don't have the stones to stand up to people who hate firearms and the freedom they stand for. The guy who flamed you is a weakling and a p*ssy. I have lost all patience with people who wither under the attacks of those who fear mean ol' guns. Because I am nearly 50, I have gotten to the point that I don't put up with nearly the shit I used to. When somebody comes after me because I am a gun owner, I do my best to humiliate them in front of their family and friends. I know, that sounds counterproductive...but I don't care. I express my disgust at their cowardice, their intellectual shallowness, and their gross lack of responsibility to the people who depend on them. I don't mind debating and presenting a rational argument, but not to some guy who attacks another gun owner. You are either fully pro-RKBA or you aren't. The only thing in the middle of the road are dead skunks and yellow stripes.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:23:51 AM EDT
Guntoting_Spartan don`t let that dumba$$ get to ya. But what I`d really like to know is why are some GUNOWNERS like that?BTW nice M4 and AK.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:25:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By VolgaDeutsch55: I don't mind debating and presenting a rational argument, but not to some guy who attacks another gun owner. You are either fully pro-RKBA or you aren't. The only thing in the middle of the road are dead skunks and yellow stripes.
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That's the truth! Two of the socialists at work are being swayed by the truth. One (a female) has begun ridiculing the AWB. A fellow gun owner keeps bringing up "need" and "make do with" and "sporting purposes". This guy tells me that the only reason to have a handgun or a machinegun is to kill people but he can't explain why he thinks that's bad without resorting to shouting and emotional hysterics. I'll take the socialists (asian female and a male butt spelunker) over this "hunter".
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 3:44:17 AM EDT
I wonder if the pic of che gueverra had anything to do with it?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 8:34:10 AM EDT
God, a gaming forum. Talk about a worthless argument to get in when you are arguing with people who base everything they know off of what they see in video games and combine that with what they see in the media. Here's a thread where I beat up on a couple of "those guns aren't good for anything" gaming assholes. [url]http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?s=e1ef0c69f9202c9292737caea0f01a7f&threadid=128803[/url] It's a very old and long since dead thread so nobody go resurecting it/ For the first page or two I pretty much verbally beat up on them but there are valid points made not that any of those idiots would really care to see them.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 9:34:11 AM EDT
Somebody needs to inform this rocket scientist that the 2nd Amendment hasn't got anything to do with protecting his hunting guns. It's the Militia use of firearms that are protected. George Washington called firearms "Liberty's Teeth", for a darned good reason. 7th
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 9:39:24 AM EDT
some people are reatards. just cuz i own that gun does not mean im gonna go on a killing spree
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:10:27 AM EDT
what the hell do cops need a gun like that for? [;D]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:51:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By uglygun: Here's a thread where I beat up on a couple of "those guns aren't good for anything" gaming assholes. [url]http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?s=e1ef0c69f9202c9292737caea0f01a7f&threadid=128803[/url]
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hey UG, nice response to the quivering dickheads. Molon Labe, baby!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:07:28 AM EDT
OK, So I read the first page of stupidity that uglygun dealt with in December. The thing that I get the biggest kick out of is the constant lineation that is drawn between "hunting" rifles and "military" rifles. Next time some "hunting rifles only" gun owner starts spewing that crap, do this: Post pictures of Winchester 94s, Enfields, M1903 Springfields, M1 carbine (full stock, not para-config) and M1A1s. These are all rifles which gained prominence in the military yet are (or were) considered hunting rifles as well. I wonder how many people used surplace 1903s to put food on the table during the depression? The only thing that differentiates a hunting rifle from a military rifle is it's use. If we're not supposed to have military rifles, than I propose that all hunters get rid of their Reminton 700s and Winchester Model 70s as those are popular sniper platforms in various military groups. And the collectors have to turn in their Mausers (after all, they can knock Apache's out of the sky). Let's not forget the muzzleloaders that were in use in 1776. Can't have those laying around. Also ask them if they are willing to turn in their scopes and Realtrees. Are they going to be selling their Jeeps, H2s and SUVs? After all they were products of military advancements. Line up and turn in your penicilan and tell the hostpital to get rid of its plasma supply as civilians shouldn't use "military" equipment. I know that's a bit extreme, but people need to realize that it is not an item's design that makes it military or "evil." It's the use. There are also a group of people that need to realize that guns don't kill people: mis-managed index fingers do.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:35:56 AM EDT
the forum was locked before i could post a response, and no it wasnt a insult, i was gonna ask him how i am suddenly a "whack job" as he put it because my rifle is a military style one and his pappys shotgun makes him a non-whack job. Forum was locked, and i posted my reponse as a new topic and it was deleted within minutes, the admin must not want that debate to start there.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:43:40 PM EDT
Gotta love that "you don't NEED a gun like that" I want it, so if I can afford it, I buy it. Who gives a fuck whether I "need" it or not... you're not my mama, mthrfckr, get your feet of my flag.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:08:14 PM EDT
Ugly gun I agree with what you posted their but your language (using the F word every 3 words) did nothing to help our cause. PAT
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:09:19 PM EDT
I moved to the U.S. for college about 12 yrs ago from Canada (and stayed!) but still visit there often. The restrictive gun laws they had back then have worsened exponentially since I left(banning most firearms, national registration of ALL firearms, etc). The general attitude towards guns is that they are only for hunting, and there are plenty of PETA people that fight that as well. Reading the thread in the above link reminded me of many discussions/arguments I've had with Canadians. Most simply don't get it. They can't understand why it is important for the people to be armed against a potential tyranical government. It's not as though there aren't abundant examples out there, the most recent one being Iraq. I haven't been called a 'whack job', but I was called paranoid, an extremist, a gun nut, etc. I didn't NEED an EA or a Colt, and I don't NEED a Bushy, but I'm going to fuckin' get one because I WANT one. The guy 'Nolf' is probably a 17 year-old brat who has mommy pack a lunch for him and daddy gives him a weekly allowance, so he hasn't learned anything yet about how things really work. I wish him all the luck in the world, because he's gonna NEED it.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:41:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Glockfan: Ugly gun I agree with what you posted their but your language (using the F word every 3 words) did nothing to help our cause. PAT
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Ehhh, doesn't really bother me. There are times I let my emotion run wild and I could care less if I offended any of those bastards. In the past I had tried to use well reasoned responses without attacking them and in that thread I had simply had enough of it. They purposely came in looking for a fight by interupting the purpose of the thread and if a fight was what they wanted then that was exactly what I was going to give them. Whether or not I used profanity likely would matter not. If after a 5 paragraph long post all you get in response is "blah blah blah, you don't NEED" and you've endured those types of responses with or without the profanity you kinda stop caring. Besides, beating up on those pathetic assholes is what I do best on that particular forum. If I had been typing out my responses on another forum like The Firing Line(before it closed) you can be confident that there would have been no profanity. Some folk are overly sensitive to profanity, I'm not one of those folk and generally on that forum most people are pretty thick skinned.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:58:09 PM EDT
Gotta love that "you don't NEED a gun like that Hehehe. Yup. What I generally tell them is "It's the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs" D.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:58:20 PM EDT
Good work hehehe...I put up a little pic that ought to raise some blood pressure!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 2:21:11 PM EDT
G_S, while your sentiments are understandable your response on that thread was poor at best. Rather than pointing out valid reasons and the Constitutional authorization for you to own your gun you showed him a foul mouthed individual lacking substantive reasoning and evidence. Better to bite your tongue and show an intelligent, logical and irrefutable response. It may not sway a true idiot, which that guy seemed to be, but it doesn't make those of us who own such guns look bad either. Your response did nothing except show that black gun owners are crude with nothing standing behind their ownership of their guns. This is not meant as a flame but as constructive criticism and suggestion for future encounters of that type. There will be more, there's no doubt of that.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 2:23:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NYPatriot: Guntoting_Spartan, why don't you try to engage this guy in some rational debate about the purpose & intent of the 2nd. Amendment??? If you keep it civil, and present facts, you just might change his mind (after all, his [i]is[/i] a gun owner). Hearts & minds, my friend...
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I'm with NYPatriot on this one. It seems to me that spartan went off on the guy awfully fast. The other guy seemed as though he probably could've been reasoned with.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 3:05:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By C-4: I moved to the U.S. for college about 12 yrs ago from Canada (and stayed!) but still visit there often. The restrictive gun laws they had back then have worsened exponentially since I left(banning most firearms, national registration of ALL firearms, etc). The general attitude towards guns is that they are only for hunting, and there are plenty of PETA people that fight that as well. Reading the thread in the above link reminded me of many discussions/arguments I've had with Canadians. Most simply don't get it. They can't understand why it is important for the people to be armed against a potential tyranical government. It's not as though there aren't abundant examples out there, the most recent one being Iraq. I haven't been called a 'whack job', but I was called paranoid, an extremist, a gun nut, etc. I didn't NEED an EA or a Colt, and I don't NEED a Bushy, but I'm going to fuckin' get one because I WANT one.
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Good job on moving to one of the A+ gun states [:)] ... little further south and you'd have been screwed
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 4:52:03 PM EDT
IF I am ever forced to use a firearm for defense of self, family, and community, I certainly want to have the most effective firearm I can muster. In fact, I demand it. It is my absolute, God-given, right, regardless of laws or Constitution. It is designed for killing people? So, what? But the best thing is, I have used my AR15's defensively several times, and did not even have to pull the trigger. The bad guy simply ran away, very fast. Wow, did that ever work effectively!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 5:46:05 PM EDT
Just point out to the fool that the Right to Keep and Bear arms wa swritten in the constitution so that we are better able to defend this nation. Bring to his attention that the firearms used by the general populace was the same as that used by the military. In order for the second ammendment to be effective, the population [b] [r] MUST [/r] [/b] be able to stand against the military. Since the military is utilizing AR type weapons. It is in the nations best interest for the population to not only be familiar with, but actually own and use this type of weapon.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:02:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PsyWarrior: Since the military is utilizing AR type weapons. It is in the nations best interest for the population to not only be familiar with, but actually own and use this type of weapon.
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NO! YOU ARE JUST A MILITANT WACKO VERSION OF CHICKEN LITTLE! THE BLUE HELMETS ARE COMING! THE BLUE HELMETS ARE COMING! You poor deluded individual you, don't you know that there stands little to no chance of our gov't. growing out of hand and abusing it's populace? Gov't. is there to [I]protect[/I] you. That said, I'll go back to squirreling away old lots of 30-06M2 ammo and like loaded 300WinMag...
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