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Posted: 5/22/2003 11:04:19 AM EDT
Is this stuff any good???

New! Russian Commercial, Zinc plated steel case, Non-corrosive Rifle ammunition. 62grn, Hollow Point. 20rds to a box, 500rds to a case.
Sold Only as 500rd case.

Price: $59.95
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:14:59 AM EDT
Not sure, I've never shot it. Looks like good stuff when I've seen it at shows. I have to wonder though, why do the russians think everything needs to be 'hollow point'? Ever noticed that Wolf makes a hollow point 7.62 x 39 too?
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:20:06 AM EDT
I'm thinking of using it to hunt small game. The FMJ wouldn't do enough damage to a coyote.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:21:25 AM EDT
I shot some of the 7.62x39. Didn't seem much different than the Wolf. Just no lacquer.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:25:37 AM EDT
Good to hear this doesn't have the lacquer issue that the Wolf has. Unless somebody has a real horror story about this ammo I think I'm gonna buy some.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:05:16 PM EDT
I have used the 62gr. HPs and they seem to be very destructive and cause no probs in my Oly.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:10:39 PM EDT
Just be warned that once you switch to russian ammo, you will never go back.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:48:44 PM EDT
i concur with the above statement. Russian ammo is so much cheaper it is rediculous. I practice every now and then with Q3131 or Lake City, but the bulk of my shooting is Wolf or Barnaul ammo. it is a bit dirtier, but not as much as people make it out to be, at least not the new stuff. it is not match grade, but you already knew that :) i mean, come on... TWICE AS MUCH AMMO FOR THE SAME PRICE! -Spaceman
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:21:39 PM EDT
Silver Bear is not accurate in my Bushmaster
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:43:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rocket2Mars: Silver Bear is not accurate in my Bushmaster
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But did it chamber, extract and feed fine?
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:59:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 3:59:32 PM EDT by Guntoting_Spartan]
SERIOUSLY, for just range fun and plinking as long as it runs fine, im not all worried about getting a 2-3" inch group instead of a 1" or under group. anyone try PMP ive seen it for almost that low i think 79 for 500, hows that stuff? and are you sure about the laquer? i saw the silver bear stuff on one site and it looked like it did have the sealant
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:07:09 PM EDT
Where is that ammo sold? Is there a website that its on? Thats really cheap im gunna have to get some of that stuff. The cheapest thing around here is 40 rounds of rem ammo for $7.00. Thanx for the info in advance :)
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:47:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gogi: Where is that ammo sold? Is there a website that its on? Thats really cheap im gunna have to get some of that stuff. The cheapest thing around here is 40 rounds of rem ammo for $7.00. Thanx for the info in advance :)
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It's at AIM Surplus.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 6:11:16 PM EDT
I just went to Aim Web site yesterday and was wondering about the $59.00 per 500 ammo. So youall say its allright and it doesn't have the varnish. I will get me about 1000 rounds to play with. Can't beat the price. I didn't see where the price for the shipping was. I read somewhere on their site that shipping would be figgered at time of shipping. How does that figger into the price. The shipping may be the catch.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 3:41:28 AM EDT
I haven't picked any up yet, but I have talked to the guys at AIM, and shipping from their shop in OH to my house in GA for 1000 rounds was about 13 dollars
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 4:14:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Guntoting_Spartan: SERIOUSLY, for just range fun and plinking as long as it runs fine, im not all worried about getting a 2-3" inch group instead of a 1" or under group. anyone try PMP ive seen it for almost that low i think 79 for 500, hows that stuff? and are you sure about the laquer? i saw the silver bear stuff on one site and it looked like it did have the sealant
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For lots of reviews of this ammo look here. I just bought 1000 rounds of the stuff. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=160263 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=158512
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 4:30:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ru-legal: I read somewhere on their site that shipping would be figgered at time of shipping. How does that figger into the price. The shipping may be the catch.
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Um.... this is AIM we're talking about, there is no catch. This company is so upright it isnt even funny, my only problem with them is that they don't carry more stuff, if I could deal with them and only them for everything I needed I'd be happy.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 5:39:17 AM EDT
Just got a message from Erik at AIM Surplus confirming that this ammo does NOT have a lacquer coating.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:31:56 AM EDT
I've shot about 100 rounds or so and it's fine. Well...except the one round I found with the primer in sideways! Other than that, the stuff was great. I did notice someone picked up the fired cases. I hope he didn't try to reload them. If he did, a broken decapping pin probably told him it was Berdan primed.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:43:22 AM EDT
I have been thinking about picking some up for awhile noe just have not gotten around to it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:58:18 AM EDT
You can reload berdan primed cases. I do it all the time with my 8mm mauser :) Berdan primed doesn't mean crap, quite the opposite. You just need the right equipment to remove the primer (hydrostatic pressure)
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 4:23:51 PM EDT
A lot of people bash Roosky ammo as dirty and inaccurate. It's not match ammo, but it plunks them in the black at 100 yards in my Bushie. It's a damn sight more reliable than the thousand round plastic sack of no-name gun show reloads I bought a few years ago. Only my Mini-14 will spray that stuff down range. A thousand rounds of bad ammo sure lasts a long time. My biggest gripe about the gun show ammo is the bullets pushing back into the case necks. Wolf ammo has been 100% reliable in my experience, and with Berdan cases, I feel no guilt about throwing the 'brass' in the range dumpster after a shoot.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:49:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DaPhotoGuy: Is this stuff any good??? New! Russian Commercial, Zinc plated steel case, Non-corrosive Rifle ammunition. 62grn, Hollow Point. 20rds to a box, 500rds to a case. Sold Only as 500rd case. Price: $59.95
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It will feed and shoot fine in my RRA, but not in a J&T upper rifle I've got. They get hung on the flat nose pretty regularly trying to feed. Have not tried them in anything other than these 2 yet. YMMV
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