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FYI they just replied to my question. Mininum barrel length for 5.56 is 10" Their website was wrong View Quote Did they fix it on their web site? View Quote Yeah they fixed it on their website, you can currently still see the incorrect information in the very first post of this thread. View Quote I have an email from Griffin verifying the minimum lengths is 7.5 inches as long as i keep the temps below 900 F. |
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Still looking at which accessories to purchase for the Optimus I have in ATF jail right now...
How well does the A2 blast shield mount to rifles? I don't particularly like the look of the minimalist devices, where with the A2 blast shield, which now shows as compatible with the Optimus, I can get an M4 hammer comp for my 5.56 rifles (currently using a BattleComp 1.0 on my main 5.56mm rifle) and a 30SD flash comp for my 6.8SPC rifle, and be able to use the mid-length config of the Optimus to keep overall length down a bit. Need to get my .308 bolt rifle (Savage) threaded so I can put a mount on it, and get a thread adapter to use it on my .22's, at least until I can afford a dedicated .22 can. |
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Still looking at which accessories to purchase for the Optimus I have in ATF jail right now... How well does the A2 blast shield mount to rifles? I don't particularly like the look of the minimalist devices, where with the A2 blast shield, which now shows as compatible with the Optimus, I can get an M4 hammer comp for my 5.56 rifles (currently using a BattleComp 1.0 on my main 5.56mm rifle) and a 30SD flash comp for my 6.8SPC rifle, and be able to use the mid-length config of the Optimus to keep overall length down a bit. Need to get my .308 bolt rifle (Savage) threaded so I can put a mount on it, and get a thread adapter to use it on my .22's, at least until I can afford a dedicated .22 can. View Quote I bought the A2 Blast shield for the Optimus I have on order as well. I have a 30SD and a few SD mounts on hand so it made sense for more versatility. It mounts solid - haven't shot with it though. However - I recommend using it with the 5.56 Flash Comp as there are 3 internal prongs in the blast shield that line up with the flash compt and it REALLY secures on tight to the Flash Comp. It lines up nicely on the M4 Hammer Comp I have as well, but I definitely like the Flash Comp interface for a more solid mount. Either way - I don't think you can go too wrong. |
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Quoted: I bought the A2 Blast shield for the Optimus I have on order as well. I have a 30SD and a few SD mounts on hand so it made sense for more versatility. It mounts solid - haven't shot with it though. However - I recommend using it with the 5.56 Flash Comp as there are 3 internal prongs in the blast shield that line up with the flash compt and it REALLY secures on tight to the Flash Comp. It lines up nicely on the M4 Hammer Comp I have as well, but I definitely like the Flash Comp interface for a more solid mount. Either way - I don't think you can go too wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Still looking at which accessories to purchase for the Optimus I have in ATF jail right now... How well does the A2 blast shield mount to rifles? I don't particularly like the look of the minimalist devices, where with the A2 blast shield, which now shows as compatible with the Optimus, I can get an M4 hammer comp for my 5.56 rifles (currently using a BattleComp 1.0 on my main 5.56mm rifle) and a 30SD flash comp for my 6.8SPC rifle, and be able to use the mid-length config of the Optimus to keep overall length down a bit. Need to get my .308 bolt rifle (Savage) threaded so I can put a mount on it, and get a thread adapter to use it on my .22's, at least until I can afford a dedicated .22 can. I bought the A2 Blast shield for the Optimus I have on order as well. I have a 30SD and a few SD mounts on hand so it made sense for more versatility. It mounts solid - haven't shot with it though. However - I recommend using it with the 5.56 Flash Comp as there are 3 internal prongs in the blast shield that line up with the flash compt and it REALLY secures on tight to the Flash Comp. It lines up nicely on the M4 Hammer Comp I have as well, but I definitely like the Flash Comp interface for a more solid mount. Either way - I don't think you can go too wrong. I can order a 5.56 hammer comp today, I can't get an M4SD flash comp for 5.56 anywhere... |
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I just got my Optimus a couple of days ago and I don't have a mount yet. I'm going to pick up the A2 mount. But which parts do I need to turn the piston into a direct thread mount for my bolt action .22lr? Orwould the direct mount taper thread adapter be the better way to go? Is it possible to rub the piston on a lot action .22 or is that not a good idea?
https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-Fixed-Barrel-Spacer-p/gafs.htm https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-Fixed-Mount-p/rfm.htm |
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My understanding is that the taper mount direct thread adapter is what is used to mount an Optimus on a threaded barrel directly.
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Yeah but in the tutorial video that GA did you can replace the spring in the piston with a spacer and put a direct thread on there but your not supposed to use this with anything greater than 9mm rounds or 300 blackout subsonic. It's at the 5 minute mark in the tutorial video.
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What does the over travel stop do in this shim pack?
https://www.griffinarmament.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GAM4SDSK&CartID=1 I have a shim set from precision armament that I use on my A2 flash hider. |
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So I just picked up my Optimus on Saturday, now I'm trying to figure out the most cost effective way to mount this on my guns.
A 5.56 ar, 300 blk ar pistol and 308 ar. I'm thinking direct thread for now and later get the a2 mount. I'm I thinking of this right? |
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So I just picked up my Optimus on Saturday, now I'm trying to figure out the most cost effective way to mount this on my guns. A 5.56 ar, 300 blk ar pistol and 308 ar. I'm thinking direct thread for now and later get the a2 mount. I'm I thinking of this right? View Quote Direct thread would be the cheapest way. But it comes with a 5/8x24 break so all you would need is another break for the 300 blk and AR. So so it's not that much more expensive either way really. |
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Thanks for the help, this is my first suppressor and still learning all this. I just figured direct thread for when I build more guns (when money permits). So for that would I use these ones
https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-Fixed-Mount-p/rfm.htm Or https://www.griffinarmament.com/product-p/tma.htm I don't see anything for the Optimus direct thread attachment on their site. |
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You will need one of each of these
Taper mount direct thread although I still think you will come out about the same to just buy muzzle devices for each gun. |
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I just got my Optimus a couple of days ago and I don't have a mount yet. I'm going to pick up the A2 mount. But which parts do I need to turn the piston into a direct thread mount for my bolt action .22lr? Orwould the direct mount taper thread adapter be the better way to go? Is it possible to rub the piston on a lot action .22 or is that not a good idea? https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-Fixed-Barrel-Spacer-p/gafs.htm https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-Fixed-Mount-p/rfm.htm View Quote I'm sure you've already moved ahead with this but I'm pretty certain you can just use the included 1/2x28 booster assembly on .22's There's not enough recoil to hurt anything |
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Will this 13.5x1LH Piston fit the Optimus? I plan to put my Optimus, when it gets out of jail, on my HK P30, and G19, and both have 13.5x1LH threads. Or is the Optimus Piston unique from the other Griffin Pistons? Or do I need to look for different 1/2x28RH barrels?
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Will this 13.5x1LH Piston fit the Optimus? I plan to put my Optimus, when it gets out of jail, on my HK P30, and G19, and both have 13.5x1LH threads. Or is the Optimus Piston unique from the other Griffin Pistons? Or do I need to look for different 1/2x28RH barrels? View Quote Otherwise they'd have a separate set of pistons for the Optimus |
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That piston will work. My understanding is any of the revolution pistons work fine with the Optimus. Otherwise they'd have a separate set of pistons for the Optimus View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will this 13.5x1LH Piston fit the Optimus? I plan to put my Optimus, when it gets out of jail, on my HK P30, and G19, and both have 13.5x1LH threads. Or is the Optimus Piston unique from the other Griffin Pistons? Or do I need to look for different 1/2x28RH barrels? Otherwise they'd have a separate set of pistons for the Optimus Thanks, I emailed Griffin Techincal Support last night and they responded this afternoon with that same confirmation, all of the Revolution pistons work with the Optimus. Excellent to know. |
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When you use the A2 mount are you supposed to use the extra blast baffle? If you are supposed to use the extra blast baffle, are you supposed to have a gap between the can and the A2 mount or sit flush?
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When you use the A2 mount are you supposed to use the extra blast baffle? If you are supposed to use the extra blast baffle, are you supposed to have a gap between the can and the A2 mount or sit flush? View Quote |
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Looking for the best option for mounting to a 700 .308 with a heavy barrel I know I can do DT but I wouldn't mind having a brake/comp Is the Griffin TMB suitable/best choice for a precision rifle? I'll probably use the included minimalist brake included with the optimus on my precision build. That was my original plan but I was thinking the TMB might be a more effective brake when not using the suppressor After having the Optimus for awhile I realize what a silly thought that was. Why would I ever shoot without the suppressor? |
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I must not have prepped my muzzle threads very well and my minimalist brake unscrewed from the rifle while still inside the rifle taper mount and now I can't separate the two. Any suggestions on how to remove the minimalist brake from the taper mount?
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I must not have prepped my muzzle threads very well and my minimalist brake unscrewed from the rifle while still inside the rifle taper mount and now I can't separate the two. Any suggestions on how to remove the minimalist brake from the taper mount? View Quote Put a small amount on the threads then tighten the can (with break inside) back on to the rifle. Let sit for 20 minutes at room temperature. Use a wrench and give the Optimus a good "tap". It should come right off the break. |
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I must not have prepped my muzzle threads very well and my minimalist brake unscrewed from the rifle while still inside the rifle taper mount and now I can't separate the two. Any suggestions on how to remove the minimalist brake from the taper mount? View Quote I had the same thing happen and I didn't want to loctite it to the barrel because I didn't have it timed yet I had a 1/2"x28 to 5/8"x24 thread adapter I had gotten from eBay. I screwed that in and then put a 1/4"x20 bolt through from the muzzle end and put a washer and nut over the end of the thread adapter. I put a wrench on the thread adapter and turned it out with the brake attached |
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7mos since the check was cashed for my Optimus....this wait is painful
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I had the same thing happen and I didn't want to loctite it to the barrel because I didn't have it timed yet I had a 1/2"x28 to 5/8"x24 thread adapter I had gotten from eBay. I screwed that in and then put a 1/4"x20 bolt through from the muzzle end and put a washer and nut over the end of the thread adapter. I put a wrench on the thread adapter and turned it out with the brake attached View Quote Thanks! That's brilliant |
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7mos since the check was cashed for my Optimus....this wait is painful Eight and a half months here and still pending. Me too. Normally I just wait it out, but this is fucking ridiculous. |
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The 20 minutes doesn't allow the loctite to completely set, so you can remove the muzzle device with a wrench as soon as you pull the can off of it.
We use the 272 loctite product for this and it works great. But don't forget to remove the muzzle device at ~20 minutes. If you let it completely set, 272 can be really strong. |
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Just got my optimus and have a few questions so I thought I’d ask here:
· I see that you use the piston with spring when shooting the short configuration from a pistol but you use the fixed barrel spacer instead of the spring at other times. My question is which do you use, spring or fixed, when using on an MP5 clone or a CZ Scorpion? - Whatever the answer is to the above is it the same for the revolution 9? · Purchased the Taper Mount Minimalist Blast Shield to have the mid size configuration. If shooting 5.56 from the mid size configuration do I need to add the taper lock baffle? · In the video on their website, It goes over the muzzle devices that can be used in the mid size configuration. It seemed like it is only compatible with the minimalist muzzle devices. Is this correct? I have the one it came with but since I also have a Recce 5 my rifles have either the hammer comp or the flash comp. Are these a no-go with the mid size? Appreciate the help on this as I’d hate to screw this thing up. |
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Just got my optimus and have a few questions so I thought I’d ask here: · I see that you use the piston with spring when shooting the short configuration from a pistol but you use the fixed barrel spacer instead of the spring at other times. My question is which do you use, spring or fixed, when using on an MP5 clone or a CZ Scorpion? - Whatever the answer is to the above is it the same for the revolution 9? · Purchased the Taper Mount Minimalist Blast Shield to have the mid size configuration. If shooting 5.56 from the mid size configuration do I need to add the taper lock baffle? · In the video on their website, It goes over the muzzle devices that can be used in the mid size configuration. It seemed like it is only compatible with the minimalist muzzle devices. Is this correct? I have the one it came with but since I also have a Recce 5 my rifles have either the hammer comp or the flash comp. Are these a no-go with the mid size? Appreciate the help on this as I’d hate to screw this thing up. View Quote You only use the spring on tilt-barrel pistols, you use the fixed spacer on the CZ and MP5's. Pretty sure you only use the baffles in the primary suppressor tube in the mid-sized configuration. Non-minimalist muzzle devices are too long for the minimalist blast shield, I believe, I bought the A2 blast shield to use with a hammer comp and other A2 devices. |
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Just got my optimus and have a few questions so I thought I’d ask here: · I see that you use the piston with spring when shooting the short configuration from a pistol but you use the fixed barrel spacer instead of the spring at other times. My question is which do you use, spring or fixed, when using on an MP5 clone or a CZ Scorpion? - Whatever the answer is to the above is it the same for the revolution 9? · Purchased the Taper Mount Minimalist Blast Shield to have the mid size configuration. If shooting 5.56 from the mid size configuration do I need to add the taper lock baffle? · In the video on their website, It goes over the muzzle devices that can be used in the mid size configuration. It seemed like it is only compatible with the minimalist muzzle devices. Is this correct? I have the one it came with but since I also have a Recce 5 my rifles have either the hammer comp or the flash comp. Are these a no-go with the mid size? Appreciate the help on this as I’d hate to screw this thing up. View Quote If you have an MP5 does it already have the 3lug on the barrel? If not, yes you would remove the spring and use the fixed barrel spacer. On any of the rifle calibers (in general, there are exceptions) you would remove the piston housing and install the taper lock blast baffle. Now with the mid config- using the blast shield - it's ONLY compatible with the MINIMALIST series of muzzle devices. Meaning your minimalist break and the minimalist flash hider. Your hammer comp is too long and you will have to use the full-length extension. With that said, I really wish Griffin would make another blast shield that's long enough for the hammer comp but still shorter then the full length extension. A lot of people get confused on what muzzle devices are compatible with what. Ive never used my full length extension, it's still in the box, in the top of my closet. When my Alpha gets in I've got a build going that I plan to use the hammer comp on... I wish I could also use the Optimus but 9.4" will be insane on an 18" barrel. |
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If you have an MP5 does it already have the 3lug on the barrel? If not, yes you would remove the spring and use the fixed barrel spacer. On any of the rifle calibers (in general, there are exceptions) you would remove the piston housing and install the taper lock blast baffle. Now with the mid config- using the blast shield - it's ONLY compatible with the MINIMALIST series of muzzle devices. Meaning your minimalist break and the minimalist flash hider. Your hammer comp is too long and you will have to use the full-length extension. With that said, I really wish Griffin would make another blast shield that's long enough for the hammer comp but still shorter then the full length extension. A lot of people get confused on what muzzle devices are compatible with what. I've never used my full length extension, it's still in the box, in the top of my closet. When my Alpha gets in I've got a build going that I plan to use the hammer comp on... I wish I could also use the Optimus but 9.4" will be insane on an 18" barrel. View Quote I'll have to check when I get home after this weekend but the blast shieldt is just as long as the flash comp. I know because I used the blast shield when I took a vehicle class this past fall. The hammer comp is shorter then the flash comp because I had to use the flash comp to pin it on my 14.5" in get OAL. That's disappointing. Looks like It'll be staying off the AR's as I don't really want to keep swapping muzzle devices. Recce is going to pull the AR duty on it's own. As for the MP5, it's a Zenith Z5P so it does have the three lug mount but it's also threaded. Confused about the above statement. Do I need to use the fixed spacer? For both the three lug mount and if it's direct threaded? Does the same apply to the Revo 9? Thanks. |
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I'll have to check when I get home after this weekend but the blast shieldt is just as long as the flash comp. I know because I used the blast shield when I took a vehicle class this past fall. The hammer comp is shorter then the flash comp because I had to use the flash comp to pin it on my 14.5" in get OAL. That's disappointing. Looks like It'll be staying off the AR's as I don't really want to keep swapping muzzle devices. Recce is going to pull the AR duty on it's own. As for the MP5, it's a Zenith Z5P so it does have the three lug mount but it's also threaded. Confused about the above statement. Do I need to use the fixed spacer? For both the three lug mount and if it's direct threaded? Does the same apply to the Revo 9? Thanks. View Quote On the blast shield, make sure we're talking about the same one. The one for the Optimus is threaded on the outside for attachment to the Optimus. They make one that's longer but doesn't (to my knowledge) accept the Optimus. my understanding is the hammer comp will fit in the (shorter) blast shield but it's still too long to fit with the taper mount blast baffle. On the 3lug/piston/spacer question: if you have the 3lug and the 3lug adapter for your Optimus (and the rev 9) then you do not need the spacer - you'll use the 3lug adapter that has its own spring but does not move back and forth. The spring is used to hold tension with the mount to hold it in place. If you remove ghe 3lug muzzle device and thread the can on directly using the 1/2x28 piston, you will need to remove the spring from the piston housing and insert the spacer to prevent the can from beating itself up on the end of your barrel. Hope that helps, it sounds complicated but really isn't. You just have to see it once and then it clicks. A lot of options, it get hard to keep it all straight |
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On the blast shield, make sure we're talking about the same one. The one for the Optimus is threaded on the outside for attachment to the Optimus. They make one that's longer but doesn't (to my knowledge) accept the Optimus. my understanding is the hammer comp will fit in the (shorter) blast shield but it's still too long to fit with the taper mount blast baffle. On the 3lug/piston/spacer question: if you have the 3lug and the 3lug adapter for your Optimus (and the rev 9) then you do not need the spacer - you'll use the 3lug adapter that has its own spring but does not move back and forth. The spring is used to hold tension with the mount to hold it in place. If you remove ghe 3lug muzzle device and thread the can on directly using the 1/2x28 piston, you will need to remove the spring from the piston housing and insert the spacer to prevent the can from beating itself up on the end of your barrel. Hope that helps, it sounds complicated but really isn't. You just have to see it once and then it clicks. A lot of options, it get hard to keep it all straight View Quote Excellent! Thanks for the help on the spacer/3 lug issue. As for the Blast shield, yes, I bought the Taper Mount Minimalist Blast Shield in anticipation of getting the Optimus and the other 3 Griffin cans. In the meantime, I bought two muzzle devices; Hammer Comp and Flash Comp. Being in close quarters during my class last fall, I used the Blast Shield with the flash comp and, if I recall correctly, they fit flush. Be that as it may, it sounds like only the minimalist devices are the way it supposed to go. Guess I'll use the Optimus on everything else but AR's. No biggie. I have the Recce 5. Thanks. |
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Excellent! Thanks for the help on the spacer/3 lug issue. As for the Blast shield, yes, I bought the Taper Mount Minimalist Blast Shield in anticipation of getting the Optimus and the other 3 Griffin cans. In the meantime, I bought two muzzle devices; Hammer Comp and Flash Comp. Being in close quarters during my class last fall, I used the Blast Shield with the flash comp and, if I recall correctly, they fit flush. Be that as it may, it sounds like only the minimalist devices are the way it supposed to go. Guess I'll use the Optimus on everything else but AR's. No biggie. I have the Recce 5. Thanks. View Quote Right on. Glad that helps. I love mine, it's become my favorite can so far. But I also have an Alpha waiting for approval. |
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Just got the call my Optimus stamp arrived today.
Check was cashed for the Form 6 on 6/22 so about 9mos wait here. Looking forward to trying it out! |
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Just wanted to mention, for people with the 2015 cz scorpions w/ the 18x1 mm threads, the silencerco octane fixed mount works with the optimus. It screws into the piston housing. From what I can see just looking down the bore, everything seems to line up, but I have not shot it yet.
I originally emailed Griffin to see if they could tap one of their fixed mounts for the 18x1 threads and they said no. The only other options would be to pay a gun-smith to re-thread the barrel and then buy one of Griffin's fixed mounts or buy a thread adapter and a fixed mount. The silencerco option is about half the price of both of those. I bought mine off of optics planet for $73. Also, if you are worried about warranty issues, all other options would void your warranty as well if this applies. I'm not sure what Griffin Armament's opinion is on this. Just thought I'd share this to help some of you guys out. |
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I see how they hook you on the Optimus. Picked mine up yesterday at the dealer (April 2016 purchase) along with the stamp. Then just spent $800 on "accessories" for it on the Griffin site to actually be able to use it on my other firearms. Think I could get them to throw in an out-of-stock 13.5x1 LH piston in with it all?
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I see how they hook you on the Optimus. Picked mine up yesterday at the dealer (April 2016 purchase) along with the stamp. Then just spent $800 on "accessories" for it on the Griffin site to actually be able to use it on my other firearms. Think I could get them to throw in an out-of-stock 13.5x1 LH piston in with it all? View Quote |
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Piston housing is stuck after 50 rounds of perfecta. Any advice on how to brake it loose without heat? My strap wrench is slipping and I can only use my hands to grip the tube.
The fixed mount came off but it did not come out smoothly. There was a lot of crud on the threads and it felt like it was binding up while I was unscrewing it. I was not able to unscrew it by hand after breaking it loose. Had a weird experience with this perfecta ammo too. I wasnt able to get any hits on a 2'x3' target at 50, 25 or 15 yards coming out of a cz scorpion + optimus. When I took the suppressor off everything was good. Tried some PPU 158 gr w/ optimus and those were on target. Decided that I'm not gonna shoot anymore perfecta out of this can. It's dirty as hell and the bullets are disappearing into thin air seriously though, it's dangerous. Spent the next 40 minutes trying to get my suppressor apart so I can run my ar with the taper mount and had no luck. |
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Piston housing is stuck after 50 rounds of perfecta. Any advice on how to brake it loose without heat? My strap wrench is slipping and I can only use my hands to grip the tube. The fixed mount came off but it did not come out smoothly. There was a lot of crud on the threads and it felt like it was binding up while I was unscrewing it. I was not able to unscrew it by hand after breaking it loose. Had a weird experience with this perfecta ammo too. I wasnt able to get any hits on a 2'x3' target at 50, 25 or 15 yards coming out of a cz scorpion + optimus. When I took the suppressor off everything was good. Tried some PPU 158 gr w/ optimus and those were on target. Decided that I'm not gonna shoot anymore perfecta out of this can. It's dirty as hell and the bullets are disappearing into thin air seriously though, it's dangerous. Spent the next 40 minutes trying to get my suppressor apart so I can run my ar with the taper mount and had no luck. View Quote |
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https://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-treatments/lucas-fuel-treatment Would something like this work? I only ask because I have some of this on hand View Quote it might, if not I know seafoam will. I've use to to get the baffles out of my Optimus and used to to clean my AAC 762-SDN-6. |
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Just got my Optimus and have a question.
When I thread the mid length or full length blast shield on the tube I notice it threads all the way in. But when the extra blast baffle is in place I notice it does not thread together as far and the blast baffle seems to want to stick inside the blast shield. Is this normal? I have a feeling since this is my first suppressor I am over examining things trying to make sure I do not screw something up. Thanks all. |
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Just got my Optimus and have a question. When I thread the mid length or full length blast shield on the tube I notice it threads all the way in. But when the extra blast baffle is in place I notice it does not thread together as far and the blast baffle seems to want to stick inside the blast shield. Is this normal? I have a feeling since this is my first suppressor I am over examining things trying to make sure I do not screw something up. Thanks all. View Quote The tapered blast baffle holds the two pieces together. |
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