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Originally Posted By ryder6908: Originally Posted By Marex: Trijicon Accupoint (1-4) with the Aurora ACSS reticle. Once word got out, bet you couldn't make them fast enough. I'd take 2 If you're buying old Trijicon designs, get the tripower, nix the tritium and put in long battery life LED illumination. The 1-4x was a great optic. |
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I think someone already posted it, but a 1x/4x switchable prism scope (or 1x/6x) would be amazing. I don't really need the intermediate magnification ranges a LPVO offers and I strongly prefer prism sights.
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Originally Posted By ryder6908: Originally Posted By Marex: Trijicon Accupoint (1-4) with the Aurora ACSS reticle. Once word got out, bet you couldn't make them fast enough. I'd take 2 Get in line behind me Seriously the accupoint is such a great all around scope it is STILL relevant even though it is 13 years old now. no batteries always on daylight bright excellent eye relief and eyebox light weight (barely over 1lb with aero mount) 90% as fast as a red dot on 1x good glass no astigmatism The only part that really holds it back is not having any holdover marks and those vertical bars really should have been horizontal bars (so you could holdover AND to give you a level-reference). |
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Some Expo billet receivers would be nice. Maybe a team up with 17 Design and compiling it all into a complete rifle?
17 Design Expo labeled receivers. 15” Combat rail. 16” Expo middy barrel. Seems like it could all get done and be a front runner for highest quality budget rifle by a mile. ETA: Expo midlength pencil barrels! |
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I’d like to see a scout scope please.
Maybe take the classic 1-4, thicken the center reticle & dot, and 9”+ of eye relief? A green dot & 12oz would be awesome. Thanks. |
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PLx 2.5-10x32mm
- FFP - 30mm maintube - locking diopter - .1 mil adjustments - capped windage - lockable elevation - zero stop (preferably tooless) - parallax adjustment from 25 yards/meter - basic mil-hash reticle with .2-.5 subtensions between each full mil, not an ACSS type - illumination doesn’t matter, could do without it as it saves overall bulk - less than 12” - less than 20oz - made in USA or Japan - $1,250 - $1,500 price point Basically make the GLx 2.5-10x44mm more compact with the option for a simpler mil-hash reticle like the NF MIL-R or the SWFA Mil-Quad. I’d buy one at least. |
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I also am interested to hear updates on the Glx 1-10 FFP scope. Personally there are a few aspects for any LPVO I'd like to see, which are:
•Green daylight bright reticle •Japanese or Phil glass •Thick stadia lines to reticle especially for 1x And not necessarily for any LPVO but definitely for a PA one: ACSS MIL reticle like the one already present on the Plx 1-8. |
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Pick up where Browe left off. A self adjusting micro 1x prism. Allow user to select between 3 or 4 different auto curves.
One for NV. One dim curve for precision and a nuclear curve for cqb |
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Any of your prisms made in the USA. I have an astigmatism that makes red dots blurry for me.
I bought 2 TA44s and a TA31. All with your great ACSS reticles. I am very disappointed they were discontinued. I would pay a premium for a Cyclops or any 1x to 2x prism with an ACSS reticle made in the USA. But honestly I'd still make a purchase here and there if they were made anyplace else. I refuse to knowingly purchase something made in communist China. |
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I'd like to see some monoculars/binoculars with the ACSS reticle. Being able to range a target with a monocular/binocular with an ACSS reticle would be awesome for many situations. Not always a good idea to look around with a rifle...
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Nevermind
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Never confuse motion with progress; never confuse a college degree with intelligence.
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+1 for off settings in between each illumination level
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Originally Posted By bts1981: Any of your prisms made in the USA. I have an astigmatism that makes red dots blurry for me. I bought 2 TA44s and a TA31. All with your great ACSS reticles. I am very disappointed they were discontinued. I would pay a premium for a Cyclops or any 1x to 2x prism with an ACSS reticle made in the USA. But honestly I'd still make a purchase here and there if they were made anyplace else. I refuse to knowingly purchase something made in communist China. View Quote This. Hell, I would take not made in China. Anywhere but in an enemy country. |
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Please, please, please put the Gen 2 Cyclops reticle in more optics. It’s perfect and would be especially perfect for the 3X as well. Simple and efficient.
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Originally Posted By PBWalsh: PLx 2.5-10x32mm - FFP - 30mm maintube - locking diopter - .1 mil adjustments - capped windage - lockable elevation - zero stop (preferably tooless) - parallax adjustment from 25 yards/meter - basic mil-hash reticle with .2-.5 subtensions between each full mil, not an ACSS type - illumination doesn’t matter, could do without it as it saves overall bulk - less than 12” - less than 20oz - made in USA or Japan - $1,250 - $1,500 price point Basically make the GLx 2.5-10x44mm more compact with the option for a simpler mil-hash reticle like the NF MIL-R or the SWFA Mil-Quad. I’d buy one at least. View Quote 2-10 x32 or roughly equivalent... I've seen some 1.5-8, 1.5-9, etc. GLX level (Philippines or Japan) I love the NF NXS 2.5-10x32 but discontinued and EXPENSIVE... so I don't have one at the moment... NEED A PA VERSION! Would be a great DMR/SPR option Mil turrets and reticle (ACSS griffin mil is awesome!) or mil cross hair like the SWFA mil-quad FFP preferred but I'd still probably buy a SFP Capped turrets preferred (but the locking turrets on the current GLX are great too) I have the glx 2.5-10x44 and it is great but the parallax/illumination knob is huge, and something slimmer/lighter would be great! |
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Kill flash for the gen 2 cyclops.
Why no updates? |
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“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson
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Some MOA reticles and adjustments in the GLX line.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Leupold discontinued their D-EVO optic, perhaps PA could purchase the rights to create a GLX version? I think its a very attractive optic, and is a cool alternative to a magnifier. I suspect if PA could create a nice, affordable version, it could become quite popular. I think the novelty + initial $1300+ price tag is what prevented it from taking off. https://i.ibb.co/ydmNcFW/Leupold-Carbine-Sights21.jpg https://loungecdn.luckygunner.com/lounge/media/Leupold-DEVO-reticle.jpg I could totally see one of these paired with something like a Holosun 512 being an awesome setup. View Quote Lot of problems with that optic beyond price that exist because of the design. Problems that a LPVO/piggyback RMR or prism/piggyback RMR don't have. Especially as NV and NV height mounts become ever more popular. |
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I’ve said it before.
The 3-18 needs the Orion hunting and ranging reticle. Super handy and great power range for a hunting scope. 4-14 isn’t enough and the glass isn’t as nice as the 3-18. |
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Please Please Please, for the love of God, Please just put the ACSS TA31’s back into production..
I understand how difficult it is for parents after a partnership ends, but ya’ll need to get it together for the sake of the children. I don’t care whose fault it is, I just want a TA31 ACSS for Christmas. Pretty Please? |
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Please put the acss Vulcan reticle in the holosun 508T, also a 2moa dot with the 250 moa circle option would be sweet too.
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How about a Griffin X MOA reticle.
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Tanodized run of the new PLx 1-8 and I may do something real dumb with my credit card.
ETA: Tanodized anything, we really need more of that. |
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Originally Posted By SpyHawk: That would be cool, but I would rather see an enclosed emitter. Like a 509T or maybe partner with Steiner on their new optic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpyHawk: Originally Posted By JDB55: Please put the acss Vulcan reticle in the holosun 508T, also a 2moa dot with the 250 moa circle option would be sweet too. That would be cool, but I would rather see an enclosed emitter. Like a 509T or maybe partner with Steiner on their new optic. OMG They did it! |
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Was hoping for more GLx or PLx additions today, but I am intrigued by the new compact PLx 1-8x
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How about picking up the Schmid two stage trigger under the Expo line for a good price?
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22LR SLx 1x Micro Prism ACSS Cyclops.
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Originally Posted By deadduck357: 22LR SLx 1x Micro Prism ACSS Cyclops. View Quote This. Also, I'd love to see the 3x micro prism "magnifier" sold with a real reticle (could by Cyclops, could be whatever). I have zero need for illumination, ever, and the new SLX magnifiers are almost perfect - lighter and presumably a bit more durable than their counterparts due to not having any electronics. They just need a real reticle! |
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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5x micro prism
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The GLx 2x ACSS in a Micro Prism form factor like the SLx gen2s but with off positions in between the intensity settings.
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Originally Posted By Spengo: 5x micro prism View Quote This, 5x micro with GLx glass and an integrated top mount for a Holosun 509 Vulcan. Keep the whole package clean, light and sleek. Get the combo under 14 ounces. You could rule the prism world with that combo PA. I would integrate the same mount for the 3x as well. This is the way. |
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"I'm just a little clown in a great big dystopian circus." ~ Honkler
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Add color options for all optics. ODG, FDE, Anything in A-TACS patterns.
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: This, 5x micro with GLx glass and an integrated top mount for a Holosun 509 Vulcan. Keep the whole package clean, light and sleek. Get the combo under 14 ounces. You could rule the prism world with that combo PA. I would integrate the same mount for the 3x as well. This is the way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Just10mm: Originally Posted By Spengo: 5x micro prism This, 5x micro with GLx glass and an integrated top mount for a Holosun 509 Vulcan. Keep the whole package clean, light and sleek. Get the combo under 14 ounces. You could rule the prism world with that combo PA. I would integrate the same mount for the 3x as well. This is the way. That's a dream setup right there. |
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Originally Posted By olds442tyguy: This, but make it under 11 ounces, and have the built in mount be side offset like the Burris TMPR so it’s a tilt versus heads up red dot sight picture. (The 3X is under 8 ounces but the 5X needs at least a 30mm objective so weight should be in the 11 ounce area). https://i.ibb.co/xs2WXK3/B6004-F75-291-F-4387-822-B-620-FEDABD3-C9.webp Swampfox is doing side mounts too, but theirs is straight sideways which isn’t as intuitive. They should place it so it has a standard height red dot sight picture on a flat plane when one tilts the rifle. That or I’d like to see a riser with the mount built in instead of the add on one currently offered. Kinda surprised no one does this for ACOG mini mounts already. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By olds442tyguy: Originally Posted By Just10mm: This, 5x micro with GLx glass and an integrated top mount for a Holosun 509 Vulcan. Keep the whole package clean, light and sleek. Get the combo under 14 ounces. You could rule the prism world with that combo PA. I would integrate the same mount for the 3x as well. This is the way. This, but make it under 11 ounces, and have the built in mount be side offset like the Burris TMPR so it’s a tilt versus heads up red dot sight picture. (The 3X is under 8 ounces but the 5X needs at least a 30mm objective so weight should be in the 11 ounce area). https://i.ibb.co/xs2WXK3/B6004-F75-291-F-4387-822-B-620-FEDABD3-C9.webp Swampfox is doing side mounts too, but theirs is straight sideways which isn’t as intuitive. They should place it so it has a standard height red dot sight picture on a flat plane when one tilts the rifle. That or I’d like to see a riser with the mount built in instead of the add on one currently offered. Kinda surprised no one does this for ACOG mini mounts already. Thats what I figured for the 5x prism, about 10 - 11 oz + 2 oz (509v) + 1.5 - 2 oz for the mount, makes 14 ounces for the combo weight an excellent goal. I disagree with the built-in offset mounts. It would add to much bulk to an otherwise trim set up. If someone wants an offset, set-up they can run a separate mount easily enough plus there just isn't a lot of real-estate on the micro prisms. If the 5x's eyepiece isn't long enough to accommodate the 509, ( I think it will be, thus build the mount into the optic) they could do a clamp on mount that rested on the elevation adjuster that would work out ok ( think RMR mount for ACOG). I used to share your opinion until I tried offsets for an extended period of time and a friend had the ACOG / RMR combo for me to try. The top mount is the better way to go IMHO. |
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: Thats what I figured for the 5x prism, about 10 - 11 oz + 2 oz (509v) + 1.5 - 2 oz for the mount, makes 14 ounces for the combo weight an excellent goal. I disagree with the built-in offset mounts. It would add to much bulk to an otherwise trim set up. If someone wants an offset, set-up they can run a separate mount easily enough plus there just isn't a lot of real-estate on the micro prisms. If the 5x's eyepiece isn't long enough to accommodate the 509, ( I think it will be, thus build the mount into the optic) they could do a clamp on mount that rested on the elevation adjuster that would work out ok ( think RMR mount for ACOG). I used to share your opinion until I tried offsets for an extended period of time and a friend had the ACOG / RMR combo for me to try. The top mount is the better way to go IMHO. View Quote They should meet us both in the middle and have a modular plate system that can mount top or sides. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Personally, I'd like more PA options that say 'Made in Japan' https://i.ibb.co/RN89ztg/Primary-Arms-Platinum-Prism-3x-please.jpg An ELCAN type Platinum or GLX optic as previously suggested would also be cool. View Quote I’d buy the fuck out of that with a built in RMR mount on top of any combination with a similiar eye box. Fixed 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x or 6x. Variable second focal plane 1.5-6x, 3x-6x, 2x-8x. Keep traditional magnification style instead of Elcan to keep weight under 16oz. Mini VCOG, if you will, would be fucking tits. Takes mini ACOG mounts since they sit a little higher. GLX or SLX would be fine for cost. |
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More prisms. Infact, rule the entire prism world.
If you guys can manage a prism with a footprint like a RMR or a MRO/SRO, you’d win everything hands down. |
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1-4x or 1-6x SLx LPVO with daylight bright (meaning Aimpoint grade) dot. Favoring short range, fast shooting (tuned eyebox and generous relief) but still capable of basic ranging distance shooting like other ACSS. But, really, an affordable bright (yes, even brighter) illumination.
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How about a 1x 2 moa prism red dot Just the dot no acss. My eyes are shot but they see the prism dot just fine. Thanks Andy.
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dupe....
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Expo chrome lined barrels in lightweight profiles.
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