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the Leupold was junk. I owned one for a month and sent it back. There was black paint flaking off inside the optic
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Quoted: Just a hair over 11 ounces including mount. Wish it was less but the fact that even the Leupold 1x prism was 12 ounces means we beat them at least. View Quote Another question, how is the ACSS reticle on the 1x? Is it easy to see? I know on the Holosun ACSS red dot, it is hard to see everything. How is it on this 1x Prism? |
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Thank you! Another question, how is the ACSS reticle on the 1x? Is it easy to see? I know on the Holosun ACSS red dot, it is hard to see everything. How is it on this 1x Prism? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Just a hair over 11 ounces including mount. Wish it was less but the fact that even the Leupold 1x prism was 12 ounces means we beat them at least. Another question, how is the ACSS reticle on the 1x? Is it easy to see? I know on the Holosun ACSS red dot, it is hard to see everything. How is it on this 1x Prism? |
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So I posted in the "What do you want to see from PA?" thread asking for this exact thing, not knowing that it was already coming. Go figure.
Can you give a hint of what street price will be? |
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So I posted in the "What do you want to see from PA?" thread asking for this exact thing, not knowing that it was already coming. Go figure. Can you give a hint of what street price will be? View Quote Once you guys see this thing, there's going to be a bunch of "OMG when is it coming out?!!" posts, I guarantee. Hee hee... |
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Once you guys see this thing, there's going to be a bunch of "OMG when is it coming out?!!" posts, I guarantee. Hee hee... View Quote Any chance of a pick of it illuminated? Also, single or dual color illumination, and how many brightness settings? |
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11 red illumination settings. No green. I'll try to snag a good pic through the reticle around the time of SHOT Show. :)
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if this thing gets good battery life and has a lifetime warranty, i see 5 of these in my future upon release
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if this thing gets good battery life and has a lifetime warranty, i see 5 of these in my future upon release View Quote I got the pricing on this unit today. I won't reveal it now because it's subject to change and we gotta leave SOMETHING to announce at SHOT Show, but it's exactly what I would have done if they asked my opinion. I'm very pleased on the pricing and I think our customers will be too. |
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I'm now thinking about a 300 BLK model to mount on one of my .30-30 leverguns after you get these released!
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Good Shot Show interview Mike
Looking forward to getting one of these thanks to your folks you listening to those of us with astigmatism In case some of you missed it Day 1 With Primary Arms Cyclops Some reticle pics would not go amiss |
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Thanks for sharing the video! I'll see what I can do about reticle pics. It looks a lot like the 1.5x Trijicon TA-44 reticle we did. You can see an illustration of it here for now, along with all the specs and some pics.
http://primaryarmsoptics.com/product/1x-compact-prism-scope/ |
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That is a good looking Prism, Mike. The ACSS reticle with chevron tip is much better than the DRT reticle in the Spitfire. Too bad it's the same weight, but you have it T1 mount capable which gives us a lot of choices for a lighter weight mount than the ones from brand V and ADM. The Spitfire plus the ADM QD mount weighs 15 oz! I will definitely buy the Cyclops
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We are double checking durability this week by doing mag dumps through a POF AR-308, a thousand rounds a day all week, and testing the scope after each thousand. Did I mention I love my job? I bring this up because of the comments on weight.
I always say: Lightweight Affordable Durable Choose 2 out of 3 only. PA chooses affordable and durable. Lightweight and durable costs exponentially more amounts of money. EXPONENTIAL. For one example, our 1-8x24 Platinum FFP is super tough, weighs 26.5 ounces, and costs $1300. The Minox ZP8 TAC 1-8x24 has really similar specifications but weighs only 24 ounces. Cool! It also lists at $3,300 on Amazon. So, for guys who are counting every ounce, hey, the option is there. I'm not telling anyone else what to do with their money, but I need the extra $2k in training, ammo, and gear more than I need to save 2.5 ounces of scope weight, personally. That's just the level of shooter I am. |
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I'm thinking this with a AMDEF absolute mount will be excellent on the 11.5" SBR I just finished up.
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Posting up a desktop wallpaper I made from a shot taken during that torture testing. We figured 4,000 rounds rapid fired through a piston-driven AR-308 was a good test, right? Cyclops came through with flying colors.
I'm posting this here for three reasons. 1. Note the eye relief between his eye and the optic in live fire. The official spec for eye relief is just under four inches, but it's so forgiving that they put it halfway up the receiver and didn't notice a difference. 2. Note the size of the optic compared to the rifle (I grant you, the POF is a big stick). 3. My friend Ian looks like an dang action hero and the muzzle blast is awesome, so I gotta show ya'll. http://primaryarmsoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/IanTestsCyclopsWallpaper.jpg |
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Posting up a desktop wallpaper I made from a shot taken during that torture testing. We figured 4,000 rounds rapid fired through a piston-driven AR-308 was a good test, right? Cyclops came through with flying colors. I'm posting this here for three reasons. 1. Note the eye relief between his eye and the optic in live fire. The official spec for eye relief is just under four inches, but it's so forgiving that they put it halfway up the receiver and didn't notice a difference. 2. Note the size of the optic compared to the rifle (I grant you, the POF is a big stick). 3. My friend Ian looks like an dang action hero and the muzzle blast is awesome, so I gotta show ya'll. http://primaryarmsoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/IanTestsCyclopsWallpaper.jpg http://primaryarmsoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/IanTestsCyclopsWallpaper.jpg View Quote Really wanting one of these for my 10.5, is a green reticle in the plans? And how far out for the FDE version? |
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No green reticle that I know of, and unknown on the FDE at this time. Sorry!
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Thanks Mike
Appreciated very much. Can hardly wait for this to ship ! |
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Thanks for sharing the video! I'll see what I can do about reticle pics. It looks a lot like the 1.5x Trijicon TA-44 reticle we did. You can see an illustration of it here for now, along with all the specs and some pics. http://primaryarmsoptics.com/product/1x-compact-prism-scope/ http://primaryarmsoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PAC1X-ACSS-CQB.png View Quote Regarding the reticle, I do like chevron inside inverted horse shoe for quick acquisition of reticle while transitioning or just bringing the gun up. Regarding the substensions, if I may offer this from experience with using the Burris AR1X in competition - the 400/500/600 substensions for 556 cartridge at 1x (no magnification) were too close together to be of any use. In this case of the chevron, depending on zero, 55 gr/3100 fps drop is somewhere in the 16-24" bracket, it is hard to make out the difference because the line would be right below the chevron's peak (assuming chevron thickness is 3-4 moa). Perhaps just leave the lines off and have one 2 moa dot for use as 500-600 yds BDC. |
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@bravo5two The lines below are not BDC but are auto ranging. If we are used to ACSS reticles with BDC, it's an easy mistake to make. What you have to keep in mind is that those reticles are calibrated for use at 3x, 5x, 6x, even 8x magnification. This "grows" the reticle in your field of view and spreads the BDC out nicely for our eyes. But at 1x, the BDC is a lot more compressed than we are used to. ... And yes, that's going to be darn small to discern at 1x. At the typical ranges where we are realistically going to use a 1x prism scope, bullet drop just isn't that much for these calibers. .. For me, knowing my eyes, there's honestly no way I'm taking a 600 yard shot at 1x. I'm cranking that sucker up to maximum magnification to reach out there, and I'm willing to pay a weight and size and price penalty vs. the 1x prism to successfully engage at 600. http://primaryarmsoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RaptorFFPdiagram.jpg View Quote Yes, I believe we're on the same page about the BDC (or not BDC) for 1x. The only reason I brought it up is that in the non-magnified optic (or what I call 'cheater iron') division in 3 gun matches, we use these 1x prismatic type sights and targets of 4 moa are used out to 400 yds. Beyond that, what I've been seeing at matches are full size IPSC steel targets with flasher/strobes for hit indication. I'm relying on my corrective lenses (contacts) to see these targets at 1x |
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Yes, this will be a good optic for guys shooting non-magnified classes in competition, I met a couple of top class shooters at SHOT Show. Their vision is so good it's maddening. Dimitri, our reticle designer, has gotten hits out to 400 with this and also with the Holosun ACSS without magnifier, and his vision is 20/10 or so.
I've been wearing glasses since I was 13 and my corneas are too thin for LASIK. Grrrrrr. |
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Yes, this will be a good optic for guys shooting non-magnified classes in competition, I met a couple of top class shooters at SHOT Show. Their vision is so good it's maddening. Dimitri, our reticle designer, has gotten hits out to 400 with this and also with the Holosun ACSS without magnifier, and his vision is 20/10 or so. I've been wearing glasses since I was 13 and my corneas are too thin for LASIK. Grrrrrr. View Quote When I went into the Army mine were 20/15 both eyes...and had good night vision... My how the mighty have fallen.... ....... ........ me <---Ray Charles except I play the piano like a 5 yr old with a mallet... |
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You might want to fire a few shots, that target looks mighty thin.
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i have been thinking about starting a new career. reviewing optics. send me one and i can tell everyone how sweet they are.
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Guess I've been living under a rock because I just found this thread and, HOLY CRAP, am I stoked!!!
You guys better be making these by the metric ton to keep up with the initial demand on release. |
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Is there a reason we don’t have a 2x or 3x prism scope that uses T1 bases? Just too physically large for them? I’d love to have a low mount 2.5 with this same reticle.
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Is there a reason we don’t have a 2x or 3x prism scope that uses T1 bases? Just too physically large for them? I’d love to have a low mount 2.5 with this same reticle. View Quote I hope we are right about that! |
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Do you have an estimation for 9mm BDC with a 25 or 50 yard zero? I want to add a Cyclops to my CZ Scorpion, when available.
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I don't think we've run the numbers on 9mm, I'll have to fire up StrelokPro and play with it. What's the barrel length on your Evo?
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