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Originally Posted By leftytheking: I could’ve misinterpreted. Feel free to watch the video and double check. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By leftytheking: Originally Posted By keeperofthedew: Didn't they say complete frame for $100 at shot? That's a pretty big difference. Lame. I could’ve misinterpreted. Feel free to watch the video and double check. It is still $100 for the complete frame! Thanks, Josiah |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: It is still $100 for the complete frame! Thanks, Josiah View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Originally Posted By leftytheking: Originally Posted By keeperofthedew: Didn't they say complete frame for $100 at shot? That's a pretty big difference. Lame. I could’ve misinterpreted. Feel free to watch the video and double check. It is still $100 for the complete frame! Thanks, Josiah Excellent! |
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Originally Posted By leftytheking: Cliffnotes from Q&A: -Parts kits are in development. 80% lowers will be integrated down the road but big legal concerns. View Quote I'm absolutely thrilled to hear PS9 DAGR 80% frames are still in the works. That'll be a world-beater! Now, if only we can get the PS9 DAGR slide cut with the rear iron sight in front of the RMR. A recent ARFCOM survey suggested ~40% of respondents prefer this configuration. However, you need to consider ... there isn't a manufacturer in the entire industry offering a budget G19.3 slide with the rear iron sight cut in front of the RMR. You currently need to spend over $150 to have a slide cut and recoated. Cleary, this tends to bias the survey results (along with Glock MOS and other RMR mount silliness). As with an 80% frame, a budget G19.3 slide with the rear iron sight cut in front of the RMR will be a game-changer. I'd encourage PSA to lead, not follow in this regard. |
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Still looking forward to these.
Thank You PSA for producing "Working Man" ( and Women ) priced quality products. |
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Quoted: It is still $100 for the complete frame! Thanks, Josiah View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Originally Posted By leftytheking: Originally Posted By keeperofthedew: Didn't they say complete frame for $100 at shot? That's a pretty big difference. Lame. I could’ve misinterpreted. Feel free to watch the video and double check. It is still $100 for the complete frame! Thanks, Josiah Ahh, so there isnt going to be a stripped frame option? |
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Quoted: Any new updates? Thanks! View Quote The latest update I have is this Q&A video with the DAGGER engineer Dusty. PSA DAGGER Q&A Thanks, Josiah |
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That was exactly what I thought of when they first said two weeks, but I didn't say it because I don't want to be a Jeff.
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I'm confiused.
The suppressor ready model, isn't the optics ready model. The optics ready model, is only for an rmr and won't take plates / can't use with a venom? Will the optics ready model have a threaded barrel and suppressor sights? |
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Quoted: I'm confiused. The suppressor ready model, isn't the optics ready model. The optics ready model, is only for an rmr and won't take plates / can't use with a venom? Will the optics ready model have a threaded barrel and suppressor sights? View Quote I can tell you the optics ready model was always only going to be compatible with an rmr/holosun. |
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Quoted: I can tell you the optics ready model was always only going to be compatible with an rmr/holosun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm confiused. The suppressor ready model, isn't the optics ready model. The optics ready model, is only for an rmr and won't take plates / can't use with a venom? Will the optics ready model have a threaded barrel and suppressor sights? I can tell you the optics ready model was always only going to be compatible with an rmr/holosun. As it should be. That's the industry standard for the time being, and sticking to one footprint simplifies the design and production, which keeps costs down. |
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Quoted: As it should be. That's the industry standard for the time being, and sticking to one footprint simplifies the design and production, which keeps costs down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm confiused. The suppressor ready model, isn't the optics ready model. The optics ready model, is only for an rmr and won't take plates / can't use with a venom? Will the optics ready model have a threaded barrel and suppressor sights? I can tell you the optics ready model was always only going to be compatible with an rmr/holosun. As it should be. That's the industry standard for the time being, and sticking to one footprint simplifies the design and production, which keeps costs down. And should keep the optic lower which makes it easier to cowitness w/ sights. I much prefer my RMR cut slide to my MOS. |
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Quoted: The latest update I have is this Q&A video with the DAGGER engineer Dusty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHHYkSxHweU Thanks, Josiah View Quote That video needs to go in the main thread you guys started....good info. |
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Is there a reason so many people want their rear iron sight in front of the red dot?
@ me so I come back to this thread later. |
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Quoted: Is there a reason so many people want their rear iron sight in front of the red dot? @ me so I come back to this thread later. View Quote Because there are snowflakes that don't understand trigonometry. There might be a bunch of people that think it looks cool but there is no practical benefit. |
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Quoted: They've acknowledged the possibility of a RMR cut behind the rear iron sight (preferred by over 40% of respondents in a recent ARFCOM poll ... including me). View Quote I highly doubt the real number is more than 1%. Because, for 1, most people haven't used a red dot on a handgun. And of the ones who have, most of are using factory made guns rather than custom milled slides. Factory guns pretty much all have the RMR in front of the rear sight. And then on top of that, most people who have tried a red dot on a handgun wouldn't spent the time to vote in that poll. The poll is an example of a vocal minority and a silent majority. |
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Quoted: I highly doubt the real number is more than 1%. Because, for 1, most people haven't used a red dot on a handgun. And of the ones who have, most of are using factory made guns rather than custom milled slides. Factory guns pretty much all have the RMR in front of the rear sight. And then on top of that, most people who have tried a red dot on a handgun wouldn't spent the time to vote in that poll. The poll is an example of a vocal minority and a silent majority. View Quote The subject of the ARFCOM post was, "Sending a G19 G5 off to Jagerworks (sic) soon to be milled for a RMR. Backup iron position?" (2/5/2020). At one point,
The ARFCOM poll results are likely skewed by, as you point out, availability (lack thereof) and affordability. I'm not aware of a budget-friendly, commercially-available G19 slide with the rear iron sight in front of the RMR. It costs almost $200 to have a slide cut and recoated (I have two OEM G19's with RMR cuts milled by JagerWerks). And I suspect MOS owners could have skewed the results (there’s only one option with MOS). If both configurations were equally available and affordable, I'm confident the poll would've reflected a strong preference for "rear iron sight in front of the RMR". We need PSA to help shift the industry in this regard. |
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Quoted: Because there are snowflakes that don't understand trigonometry. There might be a bunch of people that think it looks cool but there is no practical benefit. View Quote One of the biggest proponents of rear iron sight forward is a snowflake by the name of Aaron Cowan at Sage Dynamics, Trijicon Type 2 RMR at 20K Here Aaron makes his case for rear iron sight forward (from almost five years ago), Back Up Sight Placement on RDS Handguns In a nutshell, iron sights serve no purpose with a MRDS except in the highly unlikely event your $400+ Trijicon RMR fails. You want to minimize the likelihood of your eyes being drawn to the iron sights. The sight radius is shorter, however, you'll find you're still proficient with the iron sights at a self-defense distance. |
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Quoted: One of the biggest proponents of rear iron sight forward is a snowflake by the name of Aaron Cowan at Sage Dynamics, Trijicon Type 2 RMR at 20K Here Aaron makes his case for rear iron sight forward (from almost five years ago), Back Up Sight Placement on RDS Handguns In a nutshell, iron sights serve no purpose with a MRDS except in the highly unlikely event your $400+ Trijicon RMR fails. You want to minimize the likelihood of your eyes being drawn to the iron sights. The sight radius is shorter, however, you'll find you're still proficient with the iron sights at a self-defense distance. View Quote You think there's gonna be a lot of customers buying a $299 gun and putting a $400 dot on it? Some, yes. But a lot, I don't think so. |
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Hinged trigger is a non-starter for me. Smooth trigger with a very light button is where it's at!
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I just want to see it 'sold out' on Palmetto State Armory...
it would be nice to see a more 'firm' option list that one wold expect to see in the next But with the market as hot as it is; I expect 100% sold for a while. now if there is a nice plate to convert rmr cut to a someone cheaper optic; I am all ears. |
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Quoted: I just want to see it 'sold out' on Palmetto State Armory... it would be nice to see a more 'firm' option list that one wold expect to see in the next But with the market as hot as it is; I expect 100% sold for a while. now if there is a nice plate to convert rmr cut to a someone cheaper optic; I am all ears. View Quote PSA has said they'll offer a PS9 DAGR Modular Optic System. I'd expect to see an RMR cut, threaded barrel and suppressor-height sights first, though. |
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Quoted: now if there is a nice plate to convert rmr cut to a someone cheaper optic; I am all ears. View Quote How much cheaper than the $170 Holosuns are you going to get? https://palmettostatearmory.com/holosun-3moa-shake-awake-red-dot-pistol-sight-hs407a.html |
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Quoted: How much cheaper than the $170 Holosuns are you going to get? https://palmettostatearmory.com/holosun-3moa-shake-awake-red-dot-pistol-sight-hs407a.html View Quote The last Holosuns I found that matched the RMR were only 80 dollars cheaper that the real thing. Good to see options. |
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Quoted:4 days until the last day of the most recent alleged month of release. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I don't care as long as it has a good trigger, doesn't fall apart, ... ... and gets released before it is banned. |
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Quoted: It was not released today, but won't bee too long. I do not have an exact date yet. Thanks, Josiah View Quote I'm confused as to what's being released. The base model is 299.99 The suppressor ready was 349 and had a threaded barrel and high sights? Does it also have an optic cut slide? |
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At SHOT Show (January), three models and the complete frame were to ship in March,
Base Model • Standard-Height Sights • Magpul 15-Round GL9 PMAG • MSRP: $299.99 Model 2 • Suppressor-Height Sights • Threaded Barrel with Thread Protector Cap • Magpul 15-Round GL9 PMAG • MSRP: TBD Model 3 • Suppressor-Height Sights • Threaded Barrel with Thread Protector Cap • RMR Cut Slide • Magpul 15-Round GL9 PMAG • MSRP: $349.99 Complete Frame (with Lower Parts) • MSRP: $99.99 Then as the ship date started to slip in February, they scaled back the initial release to the Base Model and Complete Frame. I assume that's still where we're at. Josiah can confirm this. With all the slips, I keep hoping the threaded barrel and RMR cut slide will catch up. I can also envision a "compensator ready" model, Model 4 • Standard-Height Sights • Threaded Barrel with Thread Protector Cap • Magpul 15-Round GL9 PMAG • MSRP: TBD Ultimately, this is where the notion of an "online configurator" comes into the picture. You pick and choose the combination of features you want. |
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Quoted: It was not released today, but won't bee too long. I do not have an exact date yet. Thanks, Josiah View Quote i know i'm speaking for everyone here, we're all very eager for it. I know i cant wait. It is another reason for us all to absolutely hate this dang Covid-19 virus. That is the only reason we really dont have it as of yet is because of the stinkin virus and its effects on the supply line for parts and what not. I know it wont be long now, but its never soon enough!!!! |
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Quoted:It is another reason for us all to absolutely hate this dang Covid-19 virus. That is the only reason we really dont have it as of yet ... View Quote Well, that's not entirely true. We know PSA had issues with the trigger, coating and ejector. PSA said they spent a month (after SHOT Show) getting the rear iron sight dovetail right. On June 8, Dusty and Josiah announced the PS9 DAGR would be released by the end of June. I'm wondering if they didn't encounter another issue(s). Hopefully, we'll get another live video update. |
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Quoted: Well, that's not entirely true. We know PSA had issues with the trigger, coating and ejector. PSA said they spent a month (after SHOT Show) getting the rear iron sight dovetail right. On June 8, Dusty and Josiah announced the PS9 DAGR would be released by the end of June. I'm wondering if they didn't encounter another issue(s). Hopefully, we'll get another live video update. View Quote one of the videos i saw did also mention supply line issues so while its not the only reason, it is one of the reasons for the delays. I know they also had issues with what you mention, and i for one am glad that regarding those, they are taking their time and getting things right before deployment. |
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I also recall PSA mentioning in a shotshow video something about a custom variant, or one with a 1911 grip angle. Any updates or additional info on what that may be about?
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Quoted: I also recall PSA mentioning in a shotshow video something about a custom variant, or one with a 1911 grip angle. Any updates or additional info on what that may be about? View Quote I just talked with Dusty and he doesn't recall anything of the sort. Do you have a video of someone talking about it? Thanks, Josiah |
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Starting from the 2:30 mark:
A $300 Glock? The PSA DAGR Gen 3 Glock-type Pistol [SHOT Show 2020] |
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Quoted: I also recall PSA mentioning in a shotshow video something about a custom variant, or one with a 1911 grip angle. Any updates or additional info on what that may be about? View Quote • 1911 Grip Angle • Flared Magwell • More Aggressive Stippling Q: What is the PS9 DAGR Custom Series? MSRP? A: Chad Wylie said, "The Custom Series will be released in small numbers. They are not intended to be production guns. I will sign off on each of them. Same with the 1911. There will be a compact version and a race version that will be ready for Carry Optics or Open style competition usage. I also want to pair it with an optic so it can be ready to run out of the box. I want to take my years of competitive shooting experience and input from my peers and build an affordable option for new shooters and veterans alike. They will range from 500 to 800$. I had meetings this week about holsters for it as well for both EDC and race applications." Attached File |
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