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I'm fine if the lower goes on the next billing cycle. LaRue is bleeding me dry View Quote |
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...I'm holding out that with a mention of the Tranquilo running on a .338, that the Siete might just come out in time for Mark's elves to get some overtime in so we all can add a bolt guns to the collection for Christmas... View Quote |
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Excellent. Mark, I know the barrel nut torque spec is 50 foot pounds... What is the spec for the muzzle device, gas block screws and rail mounting screws? Thanks! View Quote ETA - I use shims on all my muzzle devices as they will hold suppressors. |
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You order, you cancel, you order, you cancel ... what phase is the moon in right now ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Excellent. Mark, I know the barrel nut torque spec is 50 foot pounds... What is the spec for the muzzle device, gas block screws and rail mounting screws? Thanks! View Quote |
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Gift card came in the other day time to order! I had planned on picking up the 6.5 Grendel with the card,then this got announced. To bad it won't fit a Mega Maten lower, but oh well I'll just have to build something else wit the Maten set.
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Interesting, came straight from my LaRue Armorer's course. View Quote If you haven't seen any stretching or damage, I'll revise my methods to the armors course recommendations. ETA: I was thinking about my older OBR and the screws that came on its rail. They appear to be steel and could handle more torque without damage. They even look a little different with small ribs on the head. I did roughly the same torque on my FDE rail screws and they blew up. LT was great in sending more. That's about the time I asked on the forum and was told by MF not to exceed 20. So, maybe the armor's course is going off the original screw specs? Don't know. |
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Until you guys started talking about it here, I never consider specific torque on small screws.....I always just put a dab of blue loctite made the tight and went on the the next one. Now im guessing I need this?
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Until you guys started talking about it here, I never consider specific torque on small screws.....I always just put a dab of blue loctite made the tight and went on the the next one. Now im guessing I need this? View Quote As to the Wheeler, I have one and use it liberally. Doubt it will work on the upper though due to the angles. |
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Until you guys started talking about it here, I never consider specific torque on small screws.....I always just put a dab of blue loctite made the tight and went on the the next one. Now im guessing I need this? View Quote |
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Cool, I'd think that may more accurate then what Mark said, but anyway. I just didn't want anybody to experience what I did. I'm not sure what those screws are made of. If I was guessing, I'd say aluminum. They'll stretch real easily. If you haven't seen any stretching or damage, I'll revise my methods to the armors course recommendations. ETA: I was thinking about my older OBR and the screws that came on its rail. They appear to be steel and could handle more torque without damage. They even look a little different with small ribs on the head. I did roughly the same torque on my FDE rail screws and they blew up. LT was great in sending more. That's about the time I asked on the forum and was told by MF not to exceed 20. So, maybe the armor's course is going off the original screw specs? Don't know. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Interesting, came straight from my LaRue Armorer's course. If you haven't seen any stretching or damage, I'll revise my methods to the armors course recommendations. ETA: I was thinking about my older OBR and the screws that came on its rail. They appear to be steel and could handle more torque without damage. They even look a little different with small ribs on the head. I did roughly the same torque on my FDE rail screws and they blew up. LT was great in sending more. That's about the time I asked on the forum and was told by MF not to exceed 20. So, maybe the armor's course is going off the original screw specs? Don't know. |
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I just can't say. I'm not sure the difference between 20 inch pounds and 35 inch pounds in the scheme of aluminum stretching, but 35 inch pounds is all of 3 foot pounds, which doesn't seem too much torque. View Quote FYI, I use a wheeler with an extension that is about 18" long on the LaRue rails. It allows me to reduce the angle and feed my OCDness, when it comes to torque values. |
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The rail mounting screws get 35 inch pounds; the muzzle device is 35 foot pounds with Loctite 294 and shims, not a crush washer, and the gas block set screws are 30 inch pounds with blue Loctite. My preference is blue on the GB screws, but your could also use red. I wouldn't use rocksett due to the small size of the set screw and the sheering force needed to then loosen the screw. ETA - I use shims on all my muzzle devices as they will hold suppressors. View Quote |
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I was simply quoting the spec from the course for the person who asked. I do the same as you, tighten and Loctite. As to the Wheeler, I have one and use it liberally. Doubt it will work on the upper though due to the angles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Until you guys started talking about it here, I never consider specific torque on small screws.....I always just put a dab of blue loctite made the tight and went on the the next one. Now im guessing I need this? As to the Wheeler, I have one and use it liberally. Doubt it will work on the upper though due to the angles. |
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How much longer? I might have to call the shop to change my order to a 22 inch barrel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I made a longer handguard for the longer barrels, don't want any broken hearts. ML |
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Anyone know if the gasblock on the 18 inch is in the same spot as on the 22 inch? Or is it a little closer to the upper?
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Yeah, probably not a deal breaker. FYI, I use a wheeler with an extension that is about 18" long on the LaRue rails. It allows me to reduce the angle and feed my OCDness, when it comes to torque values. View Quote |
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I don't think so. Simply changing the length of a screwdriver shaft does not affect torque. He's using one of these: https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/718/718023.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah, probably not a deal breaker. FYI, I use a wheeler with an extension that is about 18" long on the LaRue rails. It allows me to reduce the angle and feed my OCDness, when it comes to torque values. https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/718/718023.jpg Knows what he's talking about |
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Yeah, probably not a deal breaker. FYI, I use a wheeler with an extension that is about 18" long on the LaRue rails. It allows me to reduce the angle and feed my OCDness, when it comes to torque values. View Quote |
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Your OCD called. It said to tell you the 18" extension changes the torque values. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Your OCD called. It said to tell you the 18" extension changes the torque values. Quoted:
I’ve been looking for extentions but haven’t seen any that long. Where did you get them? Irwin Extension I snapped a pic for you. |
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Thanks for the picture. I should have read the thread more carefully. I have one of those extensions just not that long. I was looking for longer screwdriver bits. I found some on Amazon that are 6” long. I’d like longer ones but I doubt anyone makes them.
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You can pick up a flexible bit driver extension for around $15 to $20 at Walmart, Home Depot, etc., that will let you clear the rail.
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Long enough to cover the gasblock on the 22" (260 rifle length + 2.0") ML View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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If we would prefer the longer hand guard can we request it in the comments section, or on the phone when ordering?
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I had rotator cuff and detached bicep surgery on Thursday. I ordered on of the 6.5 kits to give myself something to work towards in therapy. It will probably be six months before I can shoot this bad boy properly, but it should be good motivation to work my butt off.
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For those of you that are talking about torquing the hand guard screws on the 2.0, I found THIS works really well. You don't have to use such a long extension and it allows the bit to be angled to provide enough clearance so that the torque driver doesn't contact the rail at all. I used a hex one as well for my stealth V1 handguard.
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For those of you that are talking about torquing the hand guard screws on the 2.0, I found THIS works really well. You don't have to use such a long extension and it allows the bit to be angled to provide enough clearance so that the torque driver doesn't contact the rail at all. I used a hex one as well for my stealth V1 handguard. View Quote I just use my Klein T15 and instincts on the handguard screws. |
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Speaking of tools, I use/like the Magpul BEV Block for AR-15 upper/lower receiver work, but what are you guys going to use for the large frame Ultimate Uppers (and eventually lowers)?
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Speaking of tools, I use/like the Magpul BEV Block for AR-15 upper/lower receiver work, but what are you guys going to use for the large frame Ultimate Uppers (and eventually lowers)? View Quote |
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