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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
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Went out this weekend with the .260 (and the .308 Bolt gun). I have good news and bad news:
1) The good news is that I confirmed the accuracy of the load I posted a couple of weeks ago. I was going to do a full multi-group test, but when the first three shots were the same hole, I decided to start reaching out a little further. Unfortunately, I only had about 14 rounds left (because my order of 130 AR Hybrids hadn't yet arrived in time to load them). I spent the 14 rounds going out to 1,000 learning the holds, etc. 2) The bad news is that I tried my Silencerco Omega, and it was near 100% malfunctions (I had some of the Norma 130 bullets I had leftover from testing them that I had loaded). I tried both barrel settings, and neither worked. After chewing through about $8 in Lapua brass, I took off the can and ran without it. Pretty bummed about that. I'm 99% certain that it's overgassed, but I was shooting without a spotter or anyone to watch where my brass was ejecting so I can't be 100% sure. But most of it was at about 1:00-1:30 (and this is without the can). I won't get to shoot this upcoming weekend, so it'll have to be the following before I can confirm. Also on the positive side, my bolt gun is shooting VERY Well. After shooting a 3.3 centimeter group at 1,000 yards (A reflection of luck, and not skill), I decided to record some shooting. A screw in my adapter was loose, so it ended up being poor quality, but I'll put it up anyway. The second 1,000 yard group there ended up at about 1/2MOA Here's the link: 600/1,000 yard Shooting But first, the initial 1,000 yard group (0.124 MOA): |
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Originally Posted By MRAD:
Went out this weekend with the .260 (and the .308 Bolt gun). I have good news and bad news: 1) The good news is that I confirmed the accuracy of the load I posted a couple of weeks ago. I was going to do a full multi-group test, but when the first three shots were the same hole, I decided to start reaching out a little further. Unfortunately, I only had about 14 rounds left (because my order of 130 AR Hybrids hadn't yet arrived in time to load them). I spent the 14 rounds going out to 1,000 learning the holds, etc. 2) The bad news is that I tried my Silencerco Omega, and it was near 100% malfunctions (I had some of the Norma 130 bullets I had leftover from testing them that I had loaded). I tried both barrel settings, and neither worked. After chewing through about $8 in Lapua brass, I took off the can and ran without it. Pretty bummed about that. I'm 99% certain that it's overgassed, but I was shooting without a spotter or anyone to watch where my brass was ejecting so I can't be 100% sure. But most of it was at about 1:00-1:30 (and this is without the can). I won't get to shoot this upcoming weekend, so it'll have to be the following before I can confirm. Also on the positive side, my bolt gun is shooting VERY Well. After shooting a 3.3 centimeter group at 1,000 yards (A reflection of luck, and not skill), I decided to record some shooting. A screw in my adapter was loose, so it ended up being poor quality, but I'll put it up anyway. The second 1,000 yard group there ended up at about 1/2MOA Here's the link: 600/1,000 yard Shooting But first, the initial 1,000 yard group (0.124 MOA): https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/8/4/0/4/9/webimg/1012018458_o.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
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Originally Posted By MRAD:
Went out this weekend with the .260 (and the .308 Bolt gun). I have good news and bad news: 1) The good news is that I confirmed the accuracy of the load I posted a couple of weeks ago. I was going to do a full multi-group test, but when the first three shots were the same hole, I decided to start reaching out a little further. Unfortunately, I only had about 14 rounds left (because my order of 130 AR Hybrids hadn't yet arrived in time to load them). I spent the 14 rounds going out to 1,000 learning the holds, etc. 2) The bad news is that I tried my Silencerco Omega, and it was near 100% malfunctions (I had some of the Norma 130 bullets I had leftover from testing them that I had loaded). I tried both barrel settings, and neither worked. After chewing through about $8 in Lapua brass, I took off the can and ran without it. Pretty bummed about that. I'm 99% certain that it's overgassed, but I was shooting without a spotter or anyone to watch where my brass was ejecting so I can't be 100% sure. But most of it was at about 1:00-1:30 (and this is without the can). I won't get to shoot this upcoming weekend, so it'll have to be the following before I can confirm. Also on the positive side, my bolt gun is shooting VERY Well. After shooting a 3.3 centimeter group at 1,000 yards (A reflection of luck, and not skill), I decided to record some shooting. A screw in my adapter was loose, so it ended up being poor quality, but I'll put it up anyway. The second 1,000 yard group there ended up at about 1/2MOA Here's the link: 600/1,000 yard Shooting But first, the initial 1,000 yard group (0.124 MOA): https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/8/4/0/4/9/webimg/1012018458_o.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MRAD:
Went out this weekend with the .260 (and the .308 Bolt gun). I have good news and bad news: 1) The good news is that I confirmed the accuracy of the load I posted a couple of weeks ago. I was going to do a full multi-group test, but when the first three shots were the same hole, I decided to start reaching out a little further. Unfortunately, I only had about 14 rounds left (because my order of 130 AR Hybrids hadn't yet arrived in time to load them). I spent the 14 rounds going out to 1,000 learning the holds, etc. 2) The bad news is that I tried my Silencerco Omega, and it was near 100% malfunctions (I had some of the Norma 130 bullets I had leftover from testing them that I had loaded). I tried both barrel settings, and neither worked. After chewing through about $8 in Lapua brass, I took off the can and ran without it. Pretty bummed about that. I'm 99% certain that it's overgassed, but I was shooting without a spotter or anyone to watch where my brass was ejecting so I can't be 100% sure. But most of it was at about 1:00-1:30 (and this is without the can). I won't get to shoot this upcoming weekend, so it'll have to be the following before I can confirm. Also on the positive side, my bolt gun is shooting VERY Well. After shooting a 3.3 centimeter group at 1,000 yards (A reflection of luck, and not skill), I decided to record some shooting. A screw in my adapter was loose, so it ended up being poor quality, but I'll put it up anyway. The second 1,000 yard group there ended up at about 1/2MOA Here's the link: 600/1,000 yard Shooting But first, the initial 1,000 yard group (0.124 MOA): https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/8/4/0/4/9/webimg/1012018458_o.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
1433 yards!This is a new to me spot and I set up the target where I thought it needed to be. Drove to the shooting location and could not see the whole target. Tried other spots but ended up driving back to the target and moving it up the hill 15 or so yards. I could now see the target at the shooting spot.As you can see I tried to make the target as big as possible and used the Bullseye Cam to spot shots. However the sun was behind and left of the target, which made for a dark target face for the camera. Some spots were totally black on the camera. Range: https://i.imgur.com/2Knye4D.jpg Target set-up before: https://i.imgur.com/gK4fpdE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I4taXnc.jpg View from the target as I was taking it down:https://i.imgur.com/442QO25.jpg I was only able to verify 11 hits (I was able to hear 3 or 4) out of 60 rounds fired. I know I had more on the cardboard based on the splash behind the target but could not tell where and did not count them. I was able to see a few via the camera on the cardboard. If I were to guess I would say at least 10 more hits. Not excellent but I'd call it good considering the distance and no spotter. I was able to pretty much tell where each shot missed since this target location had a splash zone. I was using my reloads with 41.5gr of H4350 and Hornady 130 ELDM's. When I first started shooting there was no wind but my app still told me to hold left/East, which I did. Around round 11 the wind picked up coming from the West a very small amount. I took another reading and the app still said to hold left/East. Not sure why.Next time I'm considering shooting the other way so the sun lights up the target. Only bad thing is the splash zone would be 30 yards behind the target. Shoot location with my back to the target. May place targets here next time: https://i.imgur.com/L8jt437.jpg Looking at the target: https://i.imgur.com/PIyJMWW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BHHooQb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oZPc10r.jpg Target after: https://i.imgur.com/s3mdof3.jpg View Quote Would it have helped if you mounted your bench in the bed of the truck to give you (shooter) additional height? |
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Thanks, it was rather exciting hearing hits at that distance.
I can see the target fine as long as I have it set where I placed it the 2nd time. Plus I have a tool box and bed cross bars in the bed. Bench wouldn't fit. Bench goes on the cross bars (folded) and cardboard & targets in the bed. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
1433 yards!This is a new to me spot and I set up the target where I thought it needed to be. Drove to the shooting location and could not see the whole target. Tried other spots but ended up driving back to the target and moving it up the hill 15 or so yards. I could now see the target at the shooting spot.As you can see I tried to make the target as big as possible and used the Bullseye Cam to spot shots. However the sun was behind and left of the target, which made for a dark target face for the camera. Some spots were totally black on the camera. Range: https://i.imgur.com/2Knye4D.jpg Target set-up before: https://i.imgur.com/gK4fpdE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I4taXnc.jpg View from the target as I was taking it down:https://i.imgur.com/442QO25.jpg I was only able to verify 11 hits (I was able to hear 3 or 4) out of 60 rounds fired. I know I had more on the cardboard based on the splash behind the target but could not tell where and did not count them. I was able to see a few via the camera on the cardboard. If I were to guess I would say at least 10 more hits. Not excellent but I'd call it good considering the distance and no spotter. I was able to pretty much tell where each shot missed since this target location had a splash zone. I was using my reloads with 41.5gr of H4350 and Hornady 130 ELDM's. When I first started shooting there was no wind but my app still told me to hold left/East, which I did. Around round 11 the wind picked up coming from the West a very small amount. I took another reading and the app still said to hold left/East. Not sure why.Next time I'm considering shooting the other way so the sun lights up the target. Only bad thing is the splash zone would be 30 yards behind the target. Shoot location with my back to the target. May place targets here next time: https://i.imgur.com/L8jt437.jpg Looking at the target: https://i.imgur.com/PIyJMWW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BHHooQb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oZPc10r.jpg Target after: https://i.imgur.com/s3mdof3.jpg View Quote Which app (and which phone) are you using again? It's not a well-known fact, but some of the apps do not adequately account for all variables. ETA: The above is based on Summer in TN atmospherics . . . could be different in AZ with zero humidity. . . .lucky guy. |
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Originally Posted By MRAD: This was fun to read and look at. You're shooting south and you have a RH twist barrel. So, between spin drift, magnus effect and coriolis effect, you're going to have about 0.4 Mils (or 1.4 MOA) Left Hold prior to any adjustments for wind. Which app (and which phone) are you using again? It's not a well-known fact, but some of the apps do not adequately account for all variables. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3: I think Bartlein males a LH twist barrel. There's also a company, Nikassa(SP???) that makes rifles with a LH twist to counter spin drift for long range shooters. View Quote Off LaRue topic, but I ordered a reamer for a 6MM wildcat cartridge today. When I get it in 10-12 weeks, I'm going to have to decide what to do about a barrel. Reportedly, it'll do over 3100FPS out of a 20" barrel. I'll try and couple it with a Larue topic when I have the barrels back. ETA: I ran the 130 Hybrids on my app with and without spin drift. 0.4 MILs of Spin Drift and 0.1 other effects (so total of 0.5 Hold Left at Tennessee Fall atmospherics (62 degrees, 50% humidity, 400 ft elevation, facing 180 south 29.34 HG)). I always have to calculate what that means in my own mind, and at 1400 (as you know, it's a lot!). 3.6 x 0.5 x 14 = 25.2" (of which 20.16" is just spin drift!). Further edit to add . . .your ELD's would be similar, but maybe just 0.4 Mils total. When I get back to my Ballistics Bible at home, I can run a hypothetical. If you can give me your full atmospherics, we can compare ballistic output notes. |
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Originally Posted By MRAD: Some of you would know better than I, but LH twist barrels were all the rage a while ago (I want to say 90's, but I wasn't shooting then and I don't know . . . . I'm just going off what people who were there have told me). They fell out of fashion though, and I think the reasoning was because you have to hold for wind anyway, and better optics and reticles really helped reduce the utility. I'll ask the guy who knows the real story in a couple of weeks and get back on this. Off LaRue topic, but I ordered a reamer for a 6MM wildcat cartridge today. When I get it in 10-12 weeks, I'm going to have to decide what to do about a barrel. Reportedly, it'll do over 3100FPS out of a 20" barrel. I'll try and couple it with a Larue topic when I have the barrels back. ETA: I ran the 130 Hybrids on my app with and without spin drift. 0.4 MILs of Spin Drift and 0.1 other effects (so total of 0.5 Hold Left at Tennessee Fall atmospherics (62 degrees, 50% humidity, 400 ft elevation, facing 180 south 29.34 HG)). I always have to calculate what that means in my own mind, and at 1400 (as you know, it's a lot!). 3.6 x 0.5 x 14 = 25.2" (of which 20.16" is just spin drift!). Further edit to add . . .your ELD's would be similar, but maybe just 0.4 Mils total. When I get back to my Ballistics Bible at home, I can run a hypothetical. If you can give me your full atmospherics, we can compare ballistic output notes. View Quote Good info on the spin drift, thanks. I have noticed even when shooting north and no with it usually says to hold left .2'ish. Today the weather meter read: 67.7 degrees, .8mph wind (which is an average for the 20 seconds I took a reading), P 28.73 Hg, RH 27%, DA 2386, direction 182, Dew point 34.1. I just happen t be able to see that data from today in the app. |
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Only slightly off topic.
Does anyone know what buffer weight is in the FDE Heavy? (I have a 22" .260 barrel in mine, and it's over-gassed when suppressed. And I only shoot it suppressed.) |
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Originally Posted By MRAD: Before I get into the calculations, you know that your bullets have gone transonic and then subsonic way back at 1100, right? I don't know the first thing about how 130 ELDMatches behave in the transonic zone, but I'd consider what you did pretty good. All bullet lose stability in this zone, but some handle it better than others. I frankly don't know a lot about it other than there's nothing you can really do about it other than push the bullet faster or get a better bullet. I was actually pretty surprised to see that the 130 ELDM's BC wasn't quite where I thought it would be. If you don't have it, here is the data page: https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/8/4/0/4/9/webimg/1012160806_o.jpg I input the bullets and then ran them three times, one with wind at 0.0 MPH (direction is 180 degrees, but because it's 0.0, it' doesn't matter), then with wind at 0.8 MPH at 270 degrees and then one with wind at 0.8MPH at 90 degrees. Keep in mind that the wind direction is relative to the shooter, not relative to the azimuth (which is not confusing at all :( ). Since the wind was coming from the west, in this case, it would be Wind at 90 degrees, so you'd be looking at table #2 above. I also had to assume your latitude and elevation (when I adjusted from 1000 to 1500, it changed a whole tenth). I looked back through the thread to find your MV was at 2705. ETA, I'm just now realizing that I should have run it in MOA for you. If you want, I can run it again. Dangit. https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/8/4/0/4/9/webimg/1012183278_o.jpg View Quote I generally don't consider the speed or energy of the bullet at a certain distance. I just dial and shoot MIL charts are fine, thank you for making them. I have learned that MIL x3 is roughly = to MOA. In this case I was right around 60MOA and your chart is 21MILs. My trued velocity is 2834. I trued it when I did 1200 yards a fews months ago and it's consistant to readings I took on 9-24-18 although it was hotter out on both occasions. |
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Originally Posted By mi650:
Only slightly off topic. Does anyone know what buffer weight is in the FDE Heavy? (I have a 22" .260 barrel in mine, and it's over-gassed when suppressed. And I only shoot it suppressed.) View Quote I use the buffer that came with the rifle now that I have the TQ can. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Unsure on buffer weight but when I used my Omega can I needed a heavy buffer. I use the buffer that came with the rifle now that I have the TQ can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Originally Posted By mi650:
Only slightly off topic. Does anyone know what buffer weight is in the FDE Heavy? (I have a 22" .260 barrel in mine, and it's over-gassed when suppressed. And I only shoot it suppressed.) I use the buffer that came with the rifle now that I have the TQ can. This is the only rifle that I've noticed the over-gassing on. |
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Originally Posted By mi650: I have YHM Phantoms. This is the only rifle that I've noticed the over-gassing on. View Quote Some people with other manufacturer's cans had to go to a heavy from slash. Or, you can make your own by buying tungsten weights and switching out the weights until you get where it works. From the thread index: Buffers & Weights But I did move back to a carbine length H2 buffer as it works fine for me with the TQ. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
IIRC, it was a H2. Some people with other manufacturer's cans had to go to a heavy from slash. Or, you can make your own by buying tungsten weights and switching out the weights until you get where it works. From the thread index: Buffers & Weights But I did move back to a carbine length H2 buffer as it works fine for me with the TQ. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By mi650: I have YHM Phantoms. This is the only rifle that I've noticed the over-gassing on. Some people with other manufacturer's cans had to go to a heavy from slash. Or, you can make your own by buying tungsten weights and switching out the weights until you get where it works. From the thread index: Buffers & Weights But I did move back to a carbine length H2 buffer as it works fine for me with the TQ. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Great info thanks! I generally don't consider the speed or energy of the bullet at a certain distance. I just dial and shoot MIL charts are fine, thank you for making them. I have learned that MIL x3 is roughly = to MOA. In this case I was right around 60MOA and your chart is 21MILs. My trued velocity is 2834. I trued it when I did 1200 yards a fews months ago and it's consistant to readings I took on 9-24-18 although it was hotter out on both occasions. View Quote I again apologize for repeating things that everyone already knows: So, a MIL is equal to 3.4377 MOA (it won't matter much say, within 500 yards, but at the distances you're shooting, that extra 0.5 MOA will matter a lot. And that is awesome!). Anyway, I ran your 2834 velocity, and found that your bullets go transonic around 1200 yards with that velocity. Past that, and you won't be able to tell why your bullets are doing what they're doing - why a miss is a miss and a hit is a hit. And, with the atmospherics you provided, your elevation adjustment is 18.2 Mils (62.5 MOA). But, adjust that down JUST 20 FPS (to 2815, which could easily happen with a temperature change), and your elevation adjustment will be 17.8 mils, for a difference of 0.4 Mils or 1.37 MOA. 1.4 MOA at 1400 yards is 14.7 Inches. In most cases that's a miss. I really don't have a point to all of this . . . I find that I learn best by explaining things I already "know". So, I appreciate the indulgence! |
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Originally Posted By MRAD: I understand what your'e saying about energy and velocity, but I'm assuming you pay attention where the bullet goes transonic? My app spits out energy by default. I've only really used it to compare what a .338LM looks like compared to a .308. I again apologize for repeating things that everyone already knows: So, a MIL is equal to 3.4377 MOA (it won't matter much say, within 500 yards, but at the distances you're shooting, that extra 0.5 MOA will matter a lot. And that is awesome!). Anyway, I ran your 2834 velocity, and found that your bullets go transonic around 1200 yards with that velocity. Past that, and you won't be able to tell why your bullets are doing what they're doing - why a miss is a miss and a hit is a hit. And, with the atmospherics you provided, your elevation adjustment is 18.2 Mils (62.5 MOA). But, adjust that down JUST 20 FPS (to 2815, which could easily happen with a temperature change), and your elevation adjustment will be 17.8 mils, for a difference of 0.4 Mils or 1.37 MOA. 1.4 MOA at 1400 yards is 14.7 Inches. In most cases that's a miss. I really don't have a point to all of this . . . I find that I learn best by explaining things I already "know". So, I appreciate the indulgence! View Quote At 1400 my app initially told me 61.2 MOA up. I noticed a few shots going over the target so I dialed back to around 60.5. But even at 60.5 and holding left in the .4 to .8 range impacts varied left & right the width of that cardboard. I'm sure most of it was me but the transonic speed characteristics may have played a roll. Great info, thanks! |
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Doesn't today's bullet designs help stabilize a bullet when going trans-sonic versus, for instance, a flat base projectile?
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Doesn't today's bullet designs help stabilize a bullet when going trans-sonic versus, for instance, a flat base projectile? View Quote From what I understand, that one of the major reasons that the 168 SMK does not do well past 750-800 yards is the design of the bullet's base where the boat tail angle is too steep. |
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Originally Posted By whitesys:
That was my understanding. From what I understand, that one of the major reasons that the 168 SMK does not do well past 750-800 yards is the design of the bullet's base where the boat tail angle is too steep. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By whitesys:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Doesn't today's bullet designs help stabilize a bullet when going trans-sonic versus, for instance, a flat base projectile? From what I understand, that one of the major reasons that the 168 SMK does not do well past 750-800 yards is the design of the bullet's base where the boat tail angle is too steep. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Doesn't today's bullet designs help stabilize a bullet when going trans-sonic versus, for instance, a flat base projectile? View Quote ELD Bullets are not "short". So, my guess is they'll be pretty susceptible to destabilization more than, say a 175 SMK. Link: Brief Summary on Transonic I have the book referenced in the article, but I haven't read up on which ones do the best. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3: We see that all the time at Quantico, 308 168s impacting the KDs sideways past 800yds. 308 175s don't exhibit the same behavior at 1000. View Quote FWIW (watch this, I'm going to bring it back to Larue), my Larue 7.62 barrels shoot 175 SMKs like a dream - I didn't even bother trying 155 Scenars (which is why I feed my bolt guns) in the Larue. They weren't going to shoot any better, and while the ballistics of the 155 are slightly better, my applications for the barrels does not need the extra benefit. ETA: 43.4gr of 4064 is the load in once-fired FGMM brass (man, that stuff is soft . . . it's a PITA compared to Lapua, but I have so much of it, it needs to get reused). I seat the bullet at the exact depth as is found in FGMM with the 175. That load shoots perfectly out of both a 22" 7.62 and 16" 7.62 barrel. I love it when things happen that way. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot: At 1400 my app initially told me 61.2 MOA up. I noticed a few shots going over the target so I dialed back to around 60.5. View Quote Everyone has their goals, but I've been taught that first-round hits at 1,000 yards is what I need to be able to do. Get a good zero at 100, get the appropriate data entered into a good ballistics app (Shooter Ballistics ($10.00) on the iPHone, Applied is fine on the Android), know your scope correction factor, and get your wind holds right (easier said than done, for me), and you'll be able to hit 1,000 yards first round, every single time. I freaking love technology. |
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Amen to the tech!
I have my data as accurate as I can get it. Sometimes I wonder about the cheap weather meter I use. I see the wind meter spin (very slowly) but sometimes it doesn't register. Last outing I saw 3.2mph but when I finished taking the reading it put .6 or .8 in there. I assume it was an average. Overall it seems to work pretty good and I like being able to set up the range within the app. Would love a Kestrel with real time data but I'm not yet willing to invest in one. |
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Originally Posted By MRAD: "Some bullets [make it through transonic] better than others. Typically bullets that are shorter and have shallow boat-tail angles will track better through the transonic range." ELD Bullets are not "short". So, my guess is they'll be pretty susceptible to destabilization more than, say a 175 SMK. Link: Brief Summary on Transonic View Quote The high BC results in the bullet losing less velocity over time and thus will extend the distance where the transonic region begins. |
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Before I forget to post this for the folks who will be shooting in cold weather. A 10-part series by Kyle Defoor. Hit the link and just scroll to the bottom and hit next to get to the next part of the series.
ETA - Should have included this link of selecting the right hunting boot, as well as some good superfeet insoles. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
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This will be the 4th time these Starline cases have been loaded. I have yet to have to trim them and can't remember if I have ever needed to trim .260 brass.
Max case length is 2.035 Here's a sample of 5 before and after sizing: 2.0230-2.0250 2.0260-2.-0280 2.0210-2.0250 2.0215-2.0240 |
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PSA: The PSR gen 3 will fit on the LT carbine buffer tube but it takes some modifications to fit
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I need to get out there with you some time. I'm getting rusty.
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Anytime!
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The weather is so good now too, we could sit out there all day.
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I'm seriously jealous, almost a whole week of shooting while I'm stuck raking leaves! It's 40 degrees and windy, and it's rained a couple of times in the last week, so the range would be sporty. It's possible we'll have a few days of rain starting Friday and going through next week.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'm seriously jealous, almost a whole week of shooting while I'm stuck raking leaves! It's 40 degrees and windy, and it's rained a couple of times in the last week, so the range would be sporty. It's possible we'll have a few days of rain starting Friday and going through next week. View Quote Snowing today and 19 deg. Rain/snow/cold for the next week. Rifle range is a mud bog since they brought 20+ loads of dirt in and the trucks tore up the grass. On the plus side, it was 50 last Friday and I did get 3 hours on the range to break in the Cadex 338 LM. |
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@DuneShoot,
What application are you using for the GPS target ranging https://i.imgur.com/WxPTDCN.jpg |
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Originally Posted By whitesys:
@DuneShoot, What application are you using for the GPS target ranging https://i.imgur.com/WxPTDCN.jpg View Quote https://geoballistics.com/ |
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